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Mumbai is actually a city (it is state capital of Maharashtra). The city is rightly called the financial capital of country with the largest Stock exchange in country (BSE).
Incidentally Maharashtra is the largest GDP amongst all states in India (standing at USD 233 Billion in last Financial year).
for other states the data is as follows:
https://web.archive.org/web/20140715140421/http://planningcommission.nic.in/data/datatable/0306/table 168.pdf
That is like more than 10% of India's Economy!?
 
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That is like more than 10% of India's Economy!?
Gujarat and Maharashtra lead the industrial output of country and hence the high percentage point contributions. Overall GDP output numbers are quite skewed unfortunately amongst the states.
 
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China has no claims to Russia. And there are Nationalists-Imperials in every country with long history. In Russia, too, there are those who want to return Alaska, Finland, Manchuria, Poland and so on.
return manchria AKA Dongbei to russia?r u sh*tting me?
 
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return manchria AKA Dongbei to russia?r u sh*tting me?
I only say that in every country there are imperialists-dreamers who are eager to return "the good old days" - in their understanding. Russia has no territorial claims to any state of the world. And China has no claims to Russia.
 
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Guangdong/Jiangsu is also more than 10% of China's economy. My province only 4%.

I think that Guangdong will fall behind Jiangsu as the economy shifts from production of goods to the production of services. Other than electronics companies, alot of Guangdong is foreign owned, there's not many good universities (Hong Kong graduates rarely work in Guangdong so they can't count) and most of its talent is imported. If economic conditions worsen, the talent can go elsewhere. Jiangsu is different in that it has alot of domestic talent, strong universities, and proximity to Shanghai which can supply graduates to Jiangsu.

In the future, bet on Chengdu, Chongqing, Xi'an, Wuhan and Dalian, especially Wuhan. Those are the sources of growth for the future: strong universities, service industry, semiconductors, logistics, physical space for growth and large young populations.
 
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南方?从未听说广东和福建人读书行。有小聪明可以做商人,但缺乏大智慧和人文关怀。一般都说湖北,江苏和山东的学生比较优秀。
地域攻击是不明智的,广东作为中国改革开放前沿阵地,该有的气魄和胸怀当然有。
再者,广东教育综合来看并不落下风!虽然我是江苏人

The government did do a lot of things for NE China. The Shenyang Aircraft corporation is in China.

This factory could be entirely be in Shanghai.

Shenyang_J-31_(F60)_at_the_2014_Zhuhai_Air_Show.jpg
As the crucial weapon contractor, if in Shanghai means labs and plants in the range of Tomhawk. Not wise to built any military research assets in megapolis in SE China.

I think that Guangdong will fall behind Jiangsu as the economy shifts from production of goods to the production of services. Other than electronics companies, alot of Guangdong is foreign owned, there's not many good universities (Hong Kong graduates rarely work in Guangdong so they can't count) and most of its talent is imported. If economic conditions worsen, the talent can go elsewhere. Jiangsu is different in that it has alot of domestic talent, strong universities, and proximity to Shanghai which can supply graduates to Jiangsu.

In the future, bet on Chengdu, Chongqing, Xi'an, Wuhan and Dalian, especially Wuhan. Those are the sources of growth for the future: strong universities, service industry, semiconductors, logistics, physical space for growth and large young populations.
Guangdong... its Economy development layout for the 50 years of future has a frame already, and as a citizen of guangzhou I generally satisfy with the operation capability of guangzhou CPC commitee and government, so the provincial layout would be excuted which I have confidence to say that.
As a matter of fact I am eager to see the prosperous of Jiangsu, it's my hometown, more importantly maybe the province where I would live in after I come back from the Netherlands, unfortunately seems Jiangsu is still confused which way to go...
 
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地域攻击是不明智的,广东作为中国改革开放前沿阵地,该有的气魄和胸怀当然有。
再者,广东教育综合来看并不落下风!虽然我是江苏人


As the crucial weapon contractor, if in Shanghai means labs and plants in the range of Tomhawk. Not wise to built any military research assets in megapolis in SE China.


Guangdong... its Economy development layout for the 50 years of future has a frame already, and as a citizen of guangzhou I generally satisfy with the operation capability of guangzhou CPC commitee and government, so the provincial layout would be excuted which I have confidence to say that.
As a matter of fact I am eager to see the prosperous of Jiangsu, it's my hometown, more importantly maybe the province where I would live in after I come back from the Netherlands, unfortunately seems Jiangsu is still confused which way to go...

Now if only Subei,which is 2/3 Jiangsu sizewise,was as developed as Sunan,the province could easily be a 2 trillion USD economy in a couple of years。:D

Thankfully a massively upgraded infrastructure that came into being in Subei only recently,has removed the bottleneck that made Sunan-style growth rates elusive till now for the lesser of two regions。
 
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Young people leaving north-east China prompts fall in growth

Economic growth in north-east China slowed sharply in the first half of 2015. The north-east is regarded as the last stronghold of the former planned economy. There are growing concerns over the economic revival of the region as many are leaving for better opportunities elsewhere.

Statistics from the Sixth National Population Census show that on average, more than 2 million people have emigrated from northeast China every year. Here in Shenyang, we visited the country’s largest IT service provider to see how it is coping with the lack of young talent.

"Because young talents will go where there are opportunities, the same scenario applies to capital flow... Our company has always thrived by attracting talents and encouraged young employees to be a part of the company's future. People will stay when they have a sense of belonging," said Liu Jiren, chairman of Neusoft, Shenyang, Liaoning Province.

In general, population growth is often a key indicator of the state of the economy, whereas declining population often signals weak economic conditions. Fresh graduate Haoyan speaks his mind on the economic slowdown.

"I think the reason why many people my age chose to leave the northeast after graduation is that they tend to believe the jobs elsewhere often offer higher salary and faster promotion, but in my opinion, opportunities can be found anywhere if one is willing to seize them," said Qi Haoyan, undergraduate in Shenyang, Liaoning Province.

The legacy of the planned economy remains strong in the three northeastern provinces despite the spread of private enterprise in recent years. Expert thinks this could have pushed people to leave the region seeking employment elsewhere.

"The number of foreign companies and joint-ventures in the region account for only a small portion of the economy. Large SOEs don't seem to learn from these companies about modern human resource management and performance appraisal methods, which are crucial to retaining talent," said Zhang Sining, senior research fellow, Liaoning Academy of Social Sciences.

While the correlation between population outflow and regional economic growth is still a debate, one thing is clear: the change in the growth model and industrial restructuring will help to put the Northeast back to a path of steady growth.
Young people leaving for other places will make competition tougher in those area.,Eventually some will return to the NE where jobs will be available with less competition. wages should increase as less people competing for same job.
 
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Big two, Jiangsu and Guangdong 6.77 trillion yuan and 6.51 trillion yuan respectively.
So GDP of each of our strongest two engines is more than 1 trillion US dollar now, and still growing at 7-8%.

GDP comparison of Guangdong Province vs Jiangsu Province
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Guangdong my birth province is a powerhouse
 
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Guangdong my birth province is a powerhouse
I agree that ,Guangdong now lead the reforming of all country now like it used to be.I think more enterprise like tecent and Huawei will appear soon.When I shopping online in tianmao,the most of the products come from Guangdong.
 
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