Oil backed up, Iranians put it on idled ships,Sanctions hitting hard onIran

[Surenas]

Poverty in Iran stands at 20% according to whom? you or payvand or aliens? LOL

The poverty line in Tehran for the year ending March 20, 2008 was $9,612, while the national average poverty line was $4,932. In 2010, Iran's Department of Statistics announced that 10 million Iranians live under the absolute poverty line and 30 million live under the relative poverty line.

Economy of Iran - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Arian]

The poverty line in Tehran for the year ending March 20, 2008 was $9,612, while the national average poverty line was $4,932. In 2010, Iran's Department of Statistics announced that 10 million Iranians live under the absolute poverty line and 30 million live under the relative poverty line.

Economy of Iran - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Source? Once Payvand wrote such a joke, Iran's department of statistics has never released such a report ever. If you think otherwise, find it on their website. Also, please show me where exactly this paragraph is in the wikipedia page, so I could add citation needed or remove it if it's completely uncited. Wikipedia isn't the wish page or the propaganda page of particular people.

 

[raptor22]

every country has got poor ppl :

Hunger in America: 2012 United States Hunger and Poverty Facts

our government is confused it doesn't know what its aim is Job or inflation ... you can't have cake and eat it .. it's science ..

 

[Surenas]

Source? Once Payvand wrote such a joke, Iran's department of statistics has never released such a report ever. If you think otherwise, find it on their website. Also, please show me where exactly this paragraph is in the wikipedia page, so I could add citation needed or remove it if it's completely uncited. Wikipedia isn't the wish page or the propaganda page of particular people.

I did show you exactly were that paragraph is written. Here is the source used by Wiki:

http://www.payvand.com/news/10/may/1316.html

 

[Arian]

I did show you exactly were that paragraph is written.

OK, I'll find it myself, I meant the section, not the page.

 

[Surenas]

OK, I'll find it myself, I meant the section, not the page.

I linked it to the exact section. Look at 'personal income'.

 

[Arian]

I did show you exactly were that paragraph is written. Here is the source used by Wiki:

Ten Million Iranians Under "Absolute Poverty Line"

It's Payvand as I said

I linked it to the exact section. Look at 'personal income'.

Okay. Thanks.
You probably know that Payvand is more like a public weblog rather than a professional news agency. Don't you? Just for the record.

 

[IranZamin]

Surena, dont be so emotional and accept the facts

 

[Surenas]

You probably know that Payvand is more like a public weblog rather than a professional news agency. Don't you? Just for the record.

I found the article quite convincing. Statistics, quotes from officials, etc.

Surena, dont be so emotional and accept the facts

I'm not emotional, you guys are. You guys should learn to respect different opinions and have the ability to criticize your own regime. Thats the only way a society will develop.

 

[IranZamin]

I found the article quite convincing. Statistics, quotes from officials, etc.



I'm not emotional, you guys are. You guys should learn to respect different opinions and have the ability to criticize your own regime. Thats the only way a society will develop.

Where have you been in the last 3,4 years ? Even the government supporters criticize the government often regarding the decision makings. We even have Tv shows dedicated to this

 

[Arian]

I found the article quite convincing. Statistics, quotes from officials, etc.

Despite the fact that the article significantly differs from the numbers released by the UNHCR, the IMF, the World Bank and Iran's central bank it's still convincing for you?! Would you please show me the link where the department of statistics has released such a report and their criteria?

On the same page, I found this link:
Has Poverty Increased in Iran Under Ahmadinejad? | Brookings Institution
This is also one view of the situation, but at least it follows some scientific method. Now there's always room to discuss whether we should define poverty line at 11$ per day backing in 2006 or not. That's where it makes a big difference. I could today claim that anyone who lives under 50$ per day in Tehran is living under poverty line and then conclude that over 90% of Tehranis are living under poverty line, but should I expect everyone else to agree with me on that? Of course not.

 

[500]

Sanctions or not, we will find always ways and we will resist. Iranians are fighters

Iran makes problems to itself then bravely fights problems themselves created, meanwhile creating even more problems.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Iran makes problems to itself then bravely fights problems themselves created, meanwhile creating even more problems.

we just love problems , the life without problems is soooooooooo boring and monotonous .

 

[Controlled Pair]

Iran is such an infantile country. It acts like one big sulking kid.

 

[Ottoman-Turk]

irans economy is 480 billion , and gdp per capita $6,000

Poverty in Iran stands at 20% according to whom? you or payvand or aliens? LOL
Poverty in Iran (according to the UNHCR it means an average income of less than 1.5$ per day) stands at below 2% (in fact the interval 0% to 2%), just like all developed countries. With the distribution of cash to poor Iranian families, any Iranian who has registered for subsidy cashes is paid almost 1$ per day. That means if we even talk about the higher standard of poverty according to the UNHCR and we define poverty by an average income of less than 2.5$ per day, still less than 5% of Iranians will be below the line.

According to the UNHCR, Iran is an upper-middle income country with a PPP per capita of +13,000. That, by no definitions, means the situation of Iranians is bad and since the ratio of dollar to IRR has increased then you could expect that in new calculations Iran's Purchase Power Parity GDP increases. It depends though, because as you know the central bank of Iran has fixed the rate of dollar at ~12,000 Rials for the government budget, even though dollar is traded as high as 20,000 in the local market but still that will be the ratio used by the IMF, World Bank or other economic institutions.

So what I'm trying to get at is by no means you could indicate that poverty in Iran is like 20% now and in future the percentage of the poor will even decrease in statistics. Yes, you could build an arbitrary list and put anything you want in it and then by statistics come with a number that if an Iranian family has an average monthly income of less than 2,000$ then it's poor, but you shouldn't expect others to accept your numbers. As long as UN reports are concerned, Iranians are getting richer, better educated, the GINI coefficient is decreasing and life expectancy is getting higher. That shows a growth in Iran's human development index and that means the situation is good.
Pineapple is 15$? You must be kidding. You mean pineapple is 30,000 Tomans? Really? Since when? I stopped reading the article just after that. Please do some research before talking about poverty.

yes fighter nation that got ruled by turks and azeri turks , got battered by 300 naked men .

Sanctions or not, we will find always ways and we will resist. Iranians are fighters