Now, Chinese choppers enter several hundred kilometres inside India

[A1Kaid]

Indian media deliberates as to what to do against Chinese platoon stationed in Ladakh or 6 days. (In English).


Should India's response to China's incursion be more aggressive? - YouTube


Indian media comparing this to Pakistan's Kargil "intrusion" and asking why no response by Indian military.

 

[illusion8]

If it's war - it's war - what can anyone do about it? - but seems it's an attempt by a few Indian media outlets to ratchet up tensions with China so defense buying does not lag, this coming after India planning to go majorly indigenous and halting a few big ticket procurements, seems a few Indian media outlets are funded by defense suppliers.

 

[darkhero]

the ethnic tibetans on indian side of mcmahon line would obviously not want to be 'liberated' by chinese as was done in the 50s.

how do you know? even today, there are still tibetan families hanging mao's picture. it seems they do thank the CCP for giving them a better life.

it is strange but also understandable since most poor people just want food, clothes and a place to live.

For ethnic tibetans on indian side, I am sure they are more than happy to go to China if we give them enough money and a good life. There was a report: those tibetans, who went to India earlier, actually want to go back to China because of the harsh life there.

 

[Genesis]

Too hasty, way too hasty. This isn't the time for any problems with India. Any conflict with India will most likely be inconclusive and thus serve no purpose what so ever.

Right now South China sea is the priority, over the East China sea and certainly disputed Chinese Indian border.

The only reason I see in a war with India would be to get Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Pakistan and some of the other South Asian countries near India into an alliance with China that would allow China access to these regions unopposed by the world. The ultimate goal is to kick the Americans out of Indian Ocean and make Indian Ocean a Chinese Sea, in all but name.

This would require a complete victory over India and at this point, it is difficult at least. And even if achieved China simply doesn't have enough ships and firepower to make the Indian Ocean its own at the moment.

The only reason I can see this might make a little sense is if China thinks defeating or at least making the Indians compromise will send a message to ASEAN, which I doubt, since the problem with ASEAN is never Chinese strength to begin with.

 

[danger007]

Too hasty, way too hasty. This isn't the time for any problems with India. Any conflict with India will most likely be inconclusive and thus serve no purpose what so ever.

Right now South China sea is the priority, over the East China sea and certainly disputed Chinese Indian border.

The only reason I see in a war with India would be to get Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Pakistan and some of the other South Asian countries near India into an alliance with China that would allow China access to these regions unopposed by the world. The ultimate goal is to kick the Americans out of Indian Ocean and make Indian Ocean a Chinese Sea, in all but name.

This would require a complete victory over India and at this point, it is difficult at least. And even if achieved China simply doesn't have enough ships and firepower to make the Indian Ocean its own at the moment.

The only reason I can see this might make a little sense is if China thinks defeating or at least making the Indians compromise will send a message to ASEAN, which I doubt, since the problem with ASEAN is never Chinese strength to begin with.

If you are ready to make South china sea as India's ocean why not... other wise your wet dreams...

 

[thestringshredder]

NEW DELHI: In what has further heightened tensions, two Chinese military helicopters apparently violated Indian airspace at the Chumar area in the Nyoma sector of eastern Ladakh, even as the military stand-off on the ground continues in the Daulat Beg Oldie (DBO) sector.

It was on April 21 that the Chinese helicopters were spotted flying towards Chumar, which is around 300-km southeast of Leh. As per some reports, the helicopters even hovered around for some time and dropped some food cans, cigarette packets and written notes to "mark their presence'' before returning.

The incident took place just five days after 32 soldiers from the People's Liberation Army (PLA) intruded as much as 18 km into Depsang Bulge area of the DBO sector and set up a tented camp there, sparking the ongoing face-off with Indian military personnel. The Chinese intrusion was also backed by two helicopters on April 15, which later returned to their base.

"Apart from marking their presence, Chinese helicopters and aircraft do it quite regularly to check our reaction time and probe our air defence capabilities. It's a fairly routine affair. We are still trying to establish the exact coordinates to ascertain whether it was a proper airspace violation or they were just flying close to the border,'' said an official.

Incidentally, there have earlier been face-offs on the ground between the Indian and Chinese forces in Chumar area. Moreover, India has re-activated advanced landing grounds (ALGs) or airstrips at both DBO and Nyoma since 2008 to counter the massive build-up of military infrastructure by China all along the 4,057-km LAC.

IAF has plans to upgrade the Nyoma ALG, which was re-activated when an AN-32 transport landed there in September 2009, into a full-fledge operational airbase, capable of handling all kinds of military as well as civilian flights. Located at an altitude of 13,300-feet, the Nyoma ALG is only 23-km from the border with China.

Link - Now, two Chinese choppers violate Indian airspace - The Times of India

 

[thestringshredder]

A Chinese helicopter on Wednesday brazenly flew over an Indian military base in Ladakh’s Chumar area, worsening the border impasse
This comes a day after the failed flag meeting in which the Chinese People’s Liberation Army (PLA) officers hinted to their Indian counterparts that the current face-off at Ladakh’s Depsang Plains could be resolved if road construction and military activity in Chumar was stopped. Chumar, close to the Himachal Pradesh border, is a day's mountainous drive from Depsang.
It is evident from the two flag meetings that PLA is totally opposed to India beefing up its defences along the Line of Actual Control.

India has requested for a third flag meeting, the date of which would be communicated by Beijing earliest by Thursday.

Top government sources said that face-off between Indian and Chinese troops entered the 10th day with both sides pitching tents only in the night to take shelter from the elements.

On Wednesday morning, a PLA helicopter conducted reconnaissance between the old and new patrol bases in the Chumar sector as well as the track junction area between Chushul and Demchok. Incidentally, it is at Demchok that the Chinese have built a huge observation post to monitor the Indian Army's activities.

In a bid to end the deadlock diplomatically and get Chinese premier Li Keqiang to visit India, external affairs minister Salman Khurshid will make a preparatory visit to Beijing next month. However, the situation is “in flux, and no dates have been decided yet”, a source told HT.

Sources said in the first flag meeting on April 18, the PLA said they had established a new post, way inside perceived Indian territory in Depsang plain as they could not monitor increased Indian military activity in the Daulet Beg Oldi sector. This was in spite of the fact that the Indian Army had constructed no new local post. It had just added to its defensive capability in its battalion headquarters. The PLA also raked up the issue of Indian Army bunkers at Fukche, beyond Chushul, only to be told that the work had already been halted.

In the flag meeting on Tuesday, the PLA representative raised the issue about construction in Chumar and, in Indian assessment, indicated that a stop to activity in this contested area would end the face-off. Chumar has been always disputed by the PLA and was a site of a face-off at Old Patrol Base in 2008 and another last year.

China had opposed road construction by Ladakh Autonomous Hill Council in Chumar as a result of which the project is going at a snail's pace.'

Link - India sends out doves, China sends in chopper - Hindustan Times

 

[HongWu]

Too hasty, way too hasty. This isn't the time for any problems with India. Any conflict with India will most likely be inconclusive and thus serve no purpose what so ever.

Right now South China sea is the priority, over the East China sea and certainly disputed Chinese Indian border.

The only reason I see in a war with India would be to get Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Pakistan and some of the other South Asian countries near India into an alliance with China that would allow China access to these regions unopposed by the world. The ultimate goal is to kick the Americans out of Indian Ocean and make Indian Ocean a Chinese Sea, in all but name.

This would require a complete victory over India and at this point, it is difficult at least. And even if achieved China simply doesn't have enough ships and firepower to make the Indian Ocean its own at the moment.

The only reason I can see this might make a little sense is if China thinks defeating or at least making the Indians compromise will send a message to ASEAN, which I doubt, since the problem with ASEAN is never Chinese strength to begin with.

You are mistaken. East China Sea and South China Sea are PLAN and PLAAF's challenge. PLA army is sitting around with nothing to do but aid natural disasters. Along comes India, asking for a spanking....

Now it's time for PLA army, the most powerful branch of the Chinese military, to prove its power and bring victory to the nation again!

 

[Thorough Pro]

What happened to the 300 mighty MKI's with 500 km radar range?

Chinese choppers enter several hundred kilometres inside India

That's one hell of a deep incursion, if it's indeed true, why didn't India or rather IAF intercept them . !!

but Pakistan didn't have the mighty MKI's with 500 km radar range and 12 bvr's................I guess it's about the balls........well you wouldn't know

Must be a stealth chopper like American navy seals used in abtabad raid in pakistan

 

[Cyberian]

Chinese helicopters entered 300 km inside the Indian Occupied Kashmir and the Indian Air Force did not dare act? It must be China's conventional deterrent that's got the Indian military all scared stiff.

 

[faithfulguy]

Chinese helicopters entered 300 km inside the Indian Occupied Kashmir and the Indian Air Force did not dare act? It must be China's conventional deterrent that's got the Indian military all scared stiff.

Isn't it time for India to back up its bragging with some action. How about kill some of the Chinese soldiers camp there? No one will believe any more Indian bragging if India do not do anything. Can India walk the walk as much as talk the talk?

 

[cirr]

It was this kind of sensational and emotional reporting that dragged India into a border skirmish with China in 1962.

The so-called “incursion” barely gets a mention in the Chinese media，and it is direct translation of Indian reports by the likes of the Times of India

 

[Psyops]

So what happened to Indian boasting?

 

[HongWu]

The dominant sentiment coming to the fore in the armed forces is that India should jettison its ultra-defensive mindset towards China, and if it requires "a show of force" to resolve the ongoing military standoff in Ladakh, then so be it.

India won't add fuel to stand-off - The Times of India

 

[Psyops]

India is scared of us. After 1962, I don't blame them.