Next round of water talks with India in jeopardy

[DineshS]

Believe me, not only Indus and Brahmaputra that are from Tibet, some important tributary rivers that your sacred river such as Ganges also depend it on, if China seal all border water flow indirectly to your mighty polluted Ganges river, 400 millions Indians will be on panic, it require only 2% drop of the water level then India will be on total Chaos.

Err...Who is stopping you?
Instead of talking why isn't China doing it?

From your posts it is pretty clear you have absolutely zilch knowledge of river systems in general, let along India.

Psst...One of the highest rainfalls in the world happens in India...You can't stop Ganges even if you put all your might into it, not a drop of water.
Theoretically, only river you can do something about is Bramhaputra BUT even that get's a lot of water due to catchment in India.
So, not sure what you are crapping about.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

guess its time for china to divert water from indus to pakistan and also while they are at it,divert water from brahmaputra to western china

China already achieve the south North water transfer, we certain can bypass India and route Indus water to Pakistan via Aksai Chin and then India will get nothing from China

 

[DineshS]

China already achieve the south North water transfer, we certain can bypass India and route Indus water to Pakistan via Aksai Chin and then India will get nothing from China

Meh...your knowledge was completely exposed when you said China can stop Ganga flow..
Do you even know River Ganga as it exists is a combination 2 different rivers?

Your lack of knowledge is typical of most people who are full of themselves

 

[NirmalKrish]

we have to fight a war due to bad intentions of neighbors. I donott understand why they think that they can do it and we won't do anything.
But still hopes they understand and honour the treaty by words and actions and we don't have to fight a nuclear war.


plz do it. Then don't call us aggressors next time. and plz don't beg chinese for water too. India east is water strained and will face more shortage in case you give chinese an excuse. More suicides by farmers.
But world bank is 193 countries. India can't run away.
Most of indian projects are well with in artillary range.
And plz don't threaten us with massive retaliation. We know your capabilities.

We know what your capabilities are, hence why we are pressing with this move, armchair generals in PDF is not going to have an impact on concentrate actions taken by the government of India.

 

[DineshS]

China can transfer Indus River to Pakistan via Azad Kashmir and GB

Wonder why China does not do it?

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

Err...Who is stopping you?
Instead of talking why isn't China doing it?

From your posts it is pretty clear you have absolutely zilch knowledge of river systems in general, let along India.

Psst...One of the highest rainfalls in the world happens in India...You can't stop Ganges even if you put all your might into it, not a drop of water. Theoretically, only river you can do something about is Bramhaputra BUT even that get's a lot of water due to catchment in India. So, not sure what you are crapping about.

I don't need to be expert on river system, just need to look at the map and know where Chinese water go?
You sacred Ganges is so polluted and depend more less of Chinese tributary river to clean and refresh it, it was also the cradle on Indian civilization, maybe is not sensitive to you since you live far far away from this river, what about those 400+ millions Indians?

And talk about India hightest rainfalls such as Monsoon , don't you know we have the monsoon weapon too

 

[DineshS]

Because we don't threaten others with inhumane and immoral actions like india does. Any disgusting action taken by India will be retaliated—that's where the China plan comes to play...

A nice speech to hide lack of capabilities, lies and general all around complete incompetence.
It wouldn't change the following fact:
India is ramping up dams on Indus rivers and China can do a thing to stop a drop of water coming into India.

Rest everything is BS spread around to stroke own egos..

I don't need to be expert on river system, just need to look at the map and know where Chinese water go?
You sacred Ganges is so polluted and depend more less of Chinese tributary river to clean and refresh it, it was also the cradle on Indian civilization, maybe is not sensitive to you since you live far far away from this river, what about those 400+ millions Indians?

And talk about India hightest rainfalls such as Monsoon , don't you know we have the monsoon weapon too

The moment you crapped about stopping Ganga, without knowing it's a combination of 2 different rivers, you exposed your complete lack of knowledge, in a spectacular spectacle.
You words now have less credibility than the US media that predicted 100% Hillary win

 

[terranMarine]

take it easy now supapowans, all in due time. There's no rush diverting clean water to Pakistan and cutting off Indian life source. We are very humane

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

The moment you crapped about stopping Ganga, without knowing it's a combination of 2 different rivers, you exposed your complete lack of knowledge, in a spectacular spectacle. You words now have less credibility than the US media that predicted 100% Hillary win

I know Ganga principle water source is not from China but as I said if we seal all water that indirectly flow to Ganga, only a fraction will be enough to make those 400+ millions that depend on this sacred river very very unhappy and ask for India regime change in favor of China . we don't issue any threat but a friendly reminder

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

What honour are you talking about ?? To honour a treaty until it is blatantly and unilaterally broken ( Remember Simla Agreement and Kargil )

Regarding your Chinese threat, at present both China and India doesn't have the capacity and capability to completely/effectively block and store the west flowing rivers from the Himalayas. Moreover, most of these rivers rises in tibet but what percentage of water does they contribute ? Almost all catchment area is in Jammu and Kashmir, in Tibet they are just stream, in J&k they become actual rivers, so enough of this Chinese threat and please try to learn some facts. But yes, China's can trouble us a little bit by blocking Brahmaputra river in the east, while making an enemy out of Bangladesh for sure. I don't think the Chinese are that dumb.

You think we gonna buy that? you have already block BD water and being their enemy and Bangladesh will be delight if we do the same to India. And China can tell Bangladesh people that if they allow India to hold some water flow from Ganga river, we can do the same and ultimately India is holding accountable for water conflict.

Ironically the major tributaries and catchment area that feeds Indus and Bramaputhra is well inside Indian territories and China can't do a damn to change the demography. LOL

then why you India cry non stop about China's water activity in Tibet

And China will come with millions of trucks and trillion buckets to divert the water. LOL

Dude at present China doesn't have that much capacity and capability to store so much amount of water that can hurt India. That said even India don't have the capacity to block and store the water that belongs to Pakistan at present, and I'm pretty sure you know how many years it takes to build a dam. Now please wake up and smell the coffee.

With the development of China north west, China will need more water than ever, a second south north water transfer can suck dry of Tibet and leave nothing for India.

 

[Soumitra]

How smart of you to suggest a hallucinogenic chemical over a post that mererly has a few *coughs*, Dr. Nahasapeemapetilon... Kashmir not joining Pakistan eh? Tell that to GB and AK.. Wake up to reality and stop watching third world propanganda like Zee News.

You wake up to reality. The next time you have an urge to visit Srinagar first go to Indian Embassy and get a visa. Otherwise you are liable to be shot by an AK-47

And this is a reality which is true for the last 70 years and will be true for the next 700 years also.

 

[Tom M]

China already achieve the south North water transfer, we certain can bypass India and route Indus water to Pakistan via Aksai Chin and then India will get nothing from China

Seriously ?? We are discussing about a river not a road dear. And do you have any idea how much money China will have to invest and for what ?? Just to deprive India of some water that is mostly used for Hydro-electric power generation. Indus is not our lifeline, neither Bhramaputra. Moreover you have only two streams, Indus and Tsangpo, that actually become so called rivers after entering India. LOL

Please check the respective pictures of both the rivers while they flow through China.

Tsangpo aka Brahmaputra:

Indus:

I won't say it is technically impossible to divert rivers in difficult Himalayan terrain as I'm not an expert in this case, but still the economic viability of this project will be far too high for China, and the gain ?? Almost a BIG zero. LMAO.

Nothing but you can yet again deteriorate an already strained relationship with on of their trading partners. China has more to loose than hurting India by blocking our rivers, mind it.

 

[BABA AGHORI]

Shot by an Ak-47? Since when did indians start using Pakistani people's guns? I thought you guys only had sticks and pellets!!

Believe me, not only Indus and Brahmaputra that are from Tibet, some important tributary rivers that your sacred river such as Ganges also depend it on, if China seal all border water flow indirectly to your mighty polluted Ganges river, 400 millions Indians will be on panic, it require only 2% drop of the water level then India will be on total Chaos.

Please Do it.... India would be glad... Block whatever passes from your territory... It would be your lappy who will suffer the most...

 

[Tom M]

You think we gonna buy that? you have already block BD water and being their enemy and Bangladesh will be delight if we do the same to India. And China can tell Bangladesh people that if they allow India to hold some water flow from Ganga river, we can do the same and ultimately India is holding accountable for water conflict.

Seriously, which world are you living in ?? And What makes you think Bangladesh is our enemy ?? LOL

But by blocking Bhramaputra they certainly will become your enemy.

then why you India cry non stop about China's water activity in Tibet

But far better than crying about the presence and name of a peaceful Buddhist Monk, right mate ??

With the development of China north west, China will need more water than ever, a second south north water transfer can suck dry of Tibet and leave nothing for India.

Hmm, you can partially hurt India making an enemy out of Bangladesh in that process. But since almost all important catchment area of Brahmaputra is well within India, there is a limit that you can hurt us. And rain in not Chinese monopoly.

P.S: China cannot hurt India much than they can do it to Pakistan and Bangladesh in this case.

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

We know what your capabilities are, hence why we are pressing with this move, armchair generals in PDF is not going to have an impact on concentrate actions taken by the government of India.

in that case i will meet you at kashmir sector. I promise you that.
about our capabilities. It's the only reason you signed the pact. Either hindus or muslims will exist. 1 will cease to exst in case we fight another war and i hope it will be the one concentrated in 1 country.

Yawn!!Please do!!
On the topic...the certain parts of agreement were drafted in ambiguous way...I mean the text...the then representatives from Pakistan are either not that bright or had some difficulty in reading and comprehending the ambiguous areas!!
Now you guys can't cry!!

you can utilize your water share but delaying the process to stop our water without giving us a chance to raise the issue will lead us to an unwanted and unnecessary war where atleast a billion people will die.
And unfortunately india is aggressor. Aggression is not only firing the first bullet but creating an environment where war is necessary.

Siachen was not a territory that came under any of the agreements, actually it was a demarcated territory and the entire world know the fact, it was Pakistan who started issuing expedition passes to foreigners back in the 1970's and early 80's as if it were your territory. So it never came under Simla Argeement. If you still have doubts revisit the agreement and read it again multiple times and if possible show me a reference of Siachen in the same, until then all your claims are nothing but blatant lies.

Where and when did Mumbai Attacks come under Simla Agreement ? This is the most ridiculous and absurd comment I have ever read on PDF.

It was Pakistan who broke all agreements since 1947, from the stand-still agreement made between Pakistan and Kingdom of Kashmir to Simla agreement. Kargil is a blatant violation of Simla Agreement, now those who can't respect an agreement cannot expect others to respect the same for you, period. :-(


Above all, now coming back to the topic, there is a strong reason why Pakistan lost against India in the International court. Because our claims are more strong and genuine.

http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2013/12/21/ica-allows-india-to-construct-kishanganga-dam/

https://tribune.com.pk/story/648986...victory-claims-cloud-final-arbitration-award/

according to simla aggreement india pakistan issues are bilateral.
secondly indian army captured 8 pakistani empty posts in 1972 and broke the aggreement.
According to simla aggreement both militaries were not supposed to cross their current positions. but india invaded siachin, thus breaking the aggreement. but because it's your army you didn't broke simla agreement.
Indian dgmo just said that loc is not international boundary and can be violated. then why cry over kargil.