New Japanese aircraft carriers

[Penguin]

Helicopter Destroyer? definitely the weirdest classification ever has an 16-cell Mk41 but no catapult or arresting gear for F35C or F/A18 so she's going to have to make do with crappy STOVL aircraft

doesn't have docks so no amphibious capabilities, without F35B or equivalent she's just an ASW vessel.
can't say I loved her, I'd buy something that does either one of the jobs right. Amphibious attack or aircraft carrying.

Well, check the precursor ship which DHH16 is intended to replace: The Hyūga-class helicopter destroyer is a type of helicopter carrier. The two ships of the class were built to replace the two 7,000-ton Haruna-class helicopter destroyers. These are large helicopter carrying (3 Sea King or Sea Hawk) destroyers and are in effect ASW ships.
Haruna class destroyer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Shirane class destroyer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The ships' primary mission is to function as an anti-submarine warfare carrier with her SH-60K anti-submarine helicopters. They also have enhanced command-and-control capabilities, allowing them to serve as flagships for the JMSDF. During peacetime operations, or “military operations other than war” (MOOTW), the ships join the Osumi-class ships for peacekeeping and relief operations, as well as the “diverse situations” Japan foresees confronting on the high seas." Under the JMSDF's naming conventions, the ships are called Goei-kan (lit. escort ship) in Japanese and destroyer in English, as same as all the other combatant ships of JMSDF.
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The Self-Defense Fleet, headquartered at Yokosuka, consists of the JMSDF's military shipping. It is composed of four Escort Flotillas (based in Yokosuka, Sasebo, Maizuru and Kure), the Fleet Air Force headquartered at Atsugi, two Submarine Flotillas based at Kure and Yokosuka, two Mine-sweeping Flotillas based at Kure and Yokosuka and the Fleet Training Command at Yokosuka.[27]
Each Escort Flotilla is formed as an 8–8 fleet of 8 destroyers and 8 on-board helicopters, a modification of the old Japanese Navy fleet layout of 8 battleships and 8 cruisers. Each force is composed of one helicopter destroyer (DDH) acting as a command ship, two guided-missile destroyers (DDG) and 5 standard or ASW destroyers (DD). The JMSDF is planning to reorganize the respective Escort Flotillas into a DDH group and DDG group, enabling faster overseas deployments.
Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If you consider JMSDF teeth to be the 22 modern submarines, then these ships are there to engage the opposing force's submarines while protecting their own. With their consort ships, the groups form can also engage in surface action and merchant escort duties (keeping in mind Japan's dependence on import of goods and resources by sea).

 

[LegionnairE]

I understand you @Penguin, I definitely do

But there are cheaper and less vulnerable ways to preform ASW operations in large scales. Check out Turkey's Meltem project for example, fixed wing aircraft has more range. All I'm saying is, they could at least build her with a catapult and arresting gear, just in case.

 

[Penguin]

I understand you @Penguin, I definitely do

But there are cheaper and less vulnerable ways to preform ASW operations in large scales. Check out Turkey's Meltem project for example, fixed wing aircraft has more range. All I'm saying is, they could at least build her with a catapult and arresting gear, just in case.

The Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force (JMSDF) ALSO has a large aviation component. This Fleet Air Force is tasked with patrol, ASW and rescue tasks. As of 2012, it was equipped with over 200 fixed-wing aircraft and 150 helicopters. These aircraft operate from bases throughout Japan, as well as from the JMSDF's ships, and include about 100 Lockheed P-3 Orions. Helicopters include SH-60Js and MCH-101.

Fixed Wing Aircraft

Patrol Aircraft
P-3C No.5001~5109
OP-3C No.9131~9149
UP-3C No.9151~9160
UP-3D No.9161~9170
EP-3 No.9171~9189
P-X [Note Penguin: Kawasaki P-1: intended replacement for the P-3C maritime patrol aircraft ]

Transport Aircraft
YS-11M(-A) No.9041~9049

Rescue Aircraft
US-1A No.9074~9099

Utility Aircraft
UC-90 No.9102~9109
U-36A No.9201~9219

Liaison Aircraft
LC-90 No.9301~9319

Training Aircraft
T-5 No.6301~6399
TC-90 No.6801~6849
YS-11T-A No.6901~6909

Rotary Wing Aircraft

Utility Aircraft
S-61A No.8181~8199

Patrol Aircraft
SH-60J No.8201~8399
SH-60K No.8401~8599

Minesweeping
MH-53E No.8621~8649
MCH-101 (provisional)

Rescue Aircraft
S-61A No.8941~8959
UH-60J No.8961~8999

Training Aircraft
OH-6D No.8765~8777
OH-6DA No.8778~8799

Japanese Maritime Aviation

See also here:

The JMSDF is known in particular for its antisubmarine warfare and minesweeping capabilities. Defense planners believe the most effective approach to combating hostile submarines entails mobilizing all available weapons, including surface combatants, submarines, patrol planes, and helicopters.

Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[LegionnairE]

...:facepalm:
@Penguin I totally forgot about P3 Orions. Oh blue sea navies.. Now everything makes much more sense. It was looking weird and less-capable at first but now I think it's very impressive. Dedicating ships this size only to ASW role.

China makes lots of conventional submarines, so does N.Korea. But it shouldn't be much of a problem now that the japanese ASW force is properly projected.

 

[Type 052D]

...:facepalm:
@Penguin I totally forgot about P3 Orions. Oh blue sea navies.. Now everything makes much more sense. It was looking weird and less-capable at first but now I think it's very impressive. Dedicating ships this size only to ASW role.

China makes lots of conventional submarines, so does N.Korea. But it shouldn't be much of a problem now that the japanese ASW force is properly projected.

:facepalm: LOL Comparing NK sub technology with PLAN Naval technology

 

[LegionnairE]

:facepalm: LOL Comparing NK sub technology with PLAN Naval technology

I wasn't comparing anything i was merely listing the possible threats.. jeez you speak English?

 

[Penguin]

:facepalm: LOL Comparing NK sub technology with PLAN Naval technology

The DPRK's attack submarine inventory is estimated to include 4 former Soviet Whiskey class submarine, 22 Chinese ROMEO Class submarines, and DPRK-built ROMEO Class submarines. The WHISKEYs, acquired in the 1960s, can carry 12 torpedoes or 24 mines. Shortly after delivering four ROMEOs in the early 1970s, China helped the DPRK start its own ROMEO construction program. The ROMEOs are well equipped, have an improved sonar, and can carry 14 torpedoes or 28 mines. T

Korean People's Navy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So, technically DPRK submarine technology IS chinese submarine technology