Navy gets only 10pc of defence budget

[Thunder.Storm]

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[Bad Guy]

Pakistan needs to Invest in her Navy as Our Indian Friends here are quite Happy to Point out the Huge offset between IN and PN



Incredible India, Shining India also gets AID from Western countries check the stats first before pointing fingers at Pakistan.

aid received is less than pakistan even after 7 times greater population to handle. As I said, we don't get foreign aid for defence.
Embarrassing for us if compare to China but better than you guys.

 

[dadeechi]

KARACHI: Only 10 per cent of the defence budget goes to the navy, making even the day-to-day operations, maintenance and repairs a challenge, while India builds up on its fleet, acquiring warships, aircraft carriers and nuclear submarines, it emerged during a media briefing about the maritime exercise Seaspark 2015.

The exercise began in north Arabian Sea on Tuesday after a gap of three years.

“India has a strong sea strength,” Deputy Chief of Naval Staff (Plans) Commodore Raja Rab Nawaz said while sharing information about the number of warships, etc, acquired by both countries and the navy’s role in the scenario, which may be described as strategically defensive, although tactically offensive.

Later, while answering media’s queries, Deputy Chief of Naval Staff (Operations) Rear Admiral Kaleem Shaukat said: “Our strength as compared to India’s naval strength may be different when compared with various aspects. The ratios come out as something like one-third, one-sixth or one-tenth. The conventional gaps show how behind we are in building our sea strength while India has realised the sea’s importance.

“But, in order to shorten these gaps, the Pakistan Navy, like the Pakistan Army and Pakistan Air Force, has a development plan according to our resources. We also ask the government for extra funding as per our requirements, which does come through. For instance, we approach them case to case for things such as fleet tankers, missile boats and submarines.”

He said India planned to be a big global power through the sea which was not on Pakistan’s agenda at the moment because of monetary reasons as well as the prevalent mindset here.

“Getting aircraft carriers is not a part of our development plan as besides being an asset it can also be a target. Our state cannot afford to use all its navy to protect our aircraft carriers,” he said.

Rear Admiral Shaukat admitted that India’s aircraft carriers, although primarily there to project power, posed a threat. “We’ll see how we can neutralise this threat,” he said, adding that the navy was protecting the disputed Sir Creek area and other sensitive points. “Our marines are deployed in our creek areas.”

When asked if spies or terrorists from across the border might infiltrate into Pakistan while impersonating as fishermen who are picked up by the dozen all the time, he said fishermen were handled by the Pakistan Maritime Security Agency (PMSA).

Rear Admiral Shaukat said that besides 990km of coastal areas, Pakistan had land borders and an agriculture and continental mindset instead of looking to the sea for food. “We have blue water capability but our operations are sustained. We can safeguard our trade. But our merchant fleet has also become smaller. Our fish catch is worth billions of dollars but we are not exporting much. The mindset needs to be changed,” he said.

The navy’s contribution in the fields of education, health and job opportunities for the coastal communities, such as building hospitals in Ormara and Turbat in Balochistan, holding free medical camps and recruiting from the community in Gwadar, were also mentioned. The force carried out extensive search, rescue and relief operations during international and national disasters and contingencies, while playing an important role in rehabilitation, officials said.

Objective of exercise

The deputy chief of naval staff said that besides providing impetus to the country’s resolve for maintaining peace, security and stability in the region, the objective of the exercise was to corroborate the navy’s operational plans, assess its war preparedness and enhance its interoperability with the air force and army.

All operational units of the navy, including ships, submarines, aircraft, unmanned aerial vehicles, special forces and marines, along with elements of the PMSA, PAF and army, are participating in the exercise to make the ports and territorial waters safe from all kinds of threats, including non-traditional challenges such as piracy and pollution.

“During the exercise, full spectrum of threats would be exercised ranging from conventional to asymmetric, cyber and information warfare domains. Besides enhancement of operational preparedness, the exercise will also focus on seaward defence of the coast and their response against emerging non-traditional threats emanating from sea,” the official said.

“Being located at the confluence of world’s major sea routes, Pakistan’s strategic location can be exploited to our advantage through the development of the maritime sector and a strong navy for its effective defence. Pakistan Navy’s operational and development plans are, therefore, focused to maintain a potent and well-balanced naval force to deter aggression at sea. Being an essential appendage to the foreign policy, we also strive to foster stronger navy-to-navy relations through regular exercises and ship visits with regional as well as extra-regional navies,” he added.

The exercise will conclude on Nov 12.

Navy gets only 10pc of defence budget - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

Pakistan does not have a huge coast like India. So Pakistan does not need huge naval budgets.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Pakistan has done quite a bit to improve our performance at Sea

Just in last 7 years

1) 4 F22P frigate
2) 1 OHP frigate
3) Anti Submarine Helicopters (1-10)
4) Anti Submarine P3 Orion (1-10 Units)
5) Harpoon missiles
6) Genesis upgrade for OHP
7) 8 Latest Brand Submarines
8) Presence of Nuclear Submarine (Program I mean , indian ko heart attack ho giya hoga)
9) Enhancement on the French Agosta
10) Possible arrival of 10 Ships to Protect CPEC
11) 8 Global Cutters , for Coastal Patrol
12) CWIZ for Anti Missile defence for Ships
13) Dehshat class Fast Missile Boat program (4 -20)
14) Coastal small patrol boats Donated by USA (For anti drug operations)
15) Fleet Tanker project
16) Possile second Naval Base in Gawadar and expansion of Navy Manufacturing

Good value for the price


Now there is talk of 40 Sukhoi - 35


Pretty decent measurable work just with 10%

May be we are short 4 OHP frigates or few F22P frigate but we can surely add these after the arrival of Submarines


The only think we have not seen is attempt to purchase the French Helicopter carrier

Similar Fleet tanker coming to Pakistan

 

[I S I]

Kyun? Mirchi lagi kya?!

Beta troll karega to yehi jawab milega.

 

[Viper 94]

PN needs ships capable of firing babur cruise missile

back in 2006 PN was interested in MEKO 200 frigates i guess no chance of reconsidering that option

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

2 Destroyers would be fantastic addition no doubt

I would be ok with 3 OHP frigates , or 4 F22P frigates as well

 

[MilSpec]

Put a few tac nuke Nasr's on a boat, and it's game over.

 

[SirHatesALot]

Put a few tac nuke Nasr's on a boat, and it's game over.

Game over for whom

 

[MilSpec]

Game over for whom

for the discussion. Nasr> The end!

 

[black-hawk_101]

PN needs ships capable of firing babur cruise missile

back in 2006 PN was interested in MEKO 200 frigates i guess no chance of reconsidering that option
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Still there is a good chance of acquiring 13+3 UKs frigates or even some 9 more OHPs from USN with upgrade program if ME provide money.

PN has to separate the Pak Marines from its budget within this year. Also, the Pakistan Coast Guard should have a separate budget and MSA should be dissolved in the Pakistan Coast Guards. I'm sure then PN can easily sail on the Arabian seas.

 

[MilSpec]

Still there is a good chance of acquiring 13+3 UKs frigates or even some 9 more OHPs from USN with upgrade program if ME provide money.

PN has to separate the Pak Marines from its budget within this year. Also, the Pakistan Coast Guard should have a separate budget and MSA should be dissolved in the Pakistan Coast Guards. I'm sure then PN can easily sail on the Arabian seas.

nishan strikes again.

 

[black-hawk_101]

nishan strikes again.

You are thinking about it as joke. The problem is with money only. Else PN would be one of the top 5 navies of the world.

 

[MilSpec]

You are thinking about it as joke. The problem is with money only. Else PN would be one of the top 5 navies of the world.

The issue is money, or I would be the richest man on the planet... how does that sound?

 

[IceCold]

Indians trolling as usual @Horus

On topic the strategic planners of Pakistan have learnt nothing from the mistakes of 71 specially that of neglecting PN or also dedicating the role of Naval air arm to PAF which would itself be far stretched in case of a conflict to provide PN with a decent air cover against the carrier fleet of IN.

At least 2-4 type 054 frigates from China which are heavier than F-22P and can be able to carry cruise missiles such as Babur

2 dedicated squadrons of twin engine fighter jet either J-11 from China or perhaps SU-35 (If Russia agrees to sell). PAF should train PN pilots and those squadrons will be responsible to protect our coastal areas and provide PN with the much needed air cover against IN airwing.

The strength of subs are fine however a nuclear sub can be added to further bolster our underwater strength and endurance.