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Naval ambitions: Pakistan concerned at nuclearisation of Indian Ocean

For one thing - even as we have a no first use nuclear policy Pakistan can not wipe out our entire nuclear arsenal in a first strike. So why worry about our increasing second strike capability?
The ballistic missile capable nuclear submarine is for our ambitions of having a true blue water navy and no one should be worried unless off-course your have hostile ambitions towards us which is the case here with Pakistan.

Because those who have power and ever increasing influence in Bharat hate with a visceral hatred those who accepted Islam and sought to make their destiny independent of Bharat.

Can you imagine if Pakistan was the first country in the Subcontinent to develop nuclear weapons: would Bharat have accepted that Pakistan is doing this for defensive purposes and Bharat need not worry unless of course Bharat had hostile amibitions?

Pakistan may not be able to neutralize Bharat's first strike capabilities however a nation must do what she can for her defence.

Why should Bharat want a true blue water navy? Does she seek greater hegemony?

You must think that Pakistan is just stupid.
 
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Actually K (Kalam) series of missiles and SSBNs have more to do with China especially their eastern seaboard.Pakistan is also said to develop its own nuclear sub.

But there are enough land based Nukes and delivery system for Pakistan or perhaps Indian planners who seeks to change Indian nuclear policy on the line of Israel ( Samson's option) to target most of the Muslim world.

Also,according to wikileaks Older Prithvi series of Missiles would not used to deliver nukes but as a long range artillery.
 
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We will do anything and everything to ensure the security of India against nations without No First Use Policiy. And a strong nuclear triad is one of them. The other being a strong SAM and ABM system.

Nuclear blackmail won't ever work with us again. This is not only for our neighbour , but others too.
 
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Actually K (Kalam) series of missiles and SSBNs have more to do with China especially their eastern seaboard.Pakistan is also said to develop its own nuclear sub.

But there are enough land based Nukes and delivery system for Pakistan or perhaps Indian planners who seeks to change Indian nuclear policy on the line of Israel ( Samson's option) to target most of the Muslim world.

Also,according to wikileaks Older Prithvi series of Missiles would not used to deliver nukes but as a long range artillery.
target everyone specially eastern neighbour which proliferated NW to certain someone ,if indian civilization got bombed & face extinction other should to
 
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We Don't need BM submarines , the upcoming Subs with AIP and their Ability to launch Babur CM will be enough to give chillz in IN ..
8-11 Subs with AIP are more than enough to give nightmare to any Navy or Carrier Group ..
 
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We should honour our own agreements .
Having said that ,our R&D ,Military technologies are not going to slow down because of the concerns of Pakistan .

We are in a different league ,our foreign policy engagement and horizon are expanded .
Pakistan should accept this reality.
Pakistan has raised the concern to the international community . Now Pakistan got a reason to defend itself & it will end up developing a nuclear submarine with ballistic missile. Thanks for helping India & Modi ^^
 
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Okay. Note has been taken of your concerns.
We should honour our own agreements .
Having said that ,our R&D ,Military technologies are not going to slow down because of the concerns of Pakistan .

We are in a different league ,our foreign policy engagement and horizon are expanded .
Pakistan should accept this reality.
With India we accept by not following any treaty or honour any laws since there is morality ,coming to the point imagine what happened a surprised nuke warhead on a missile being tracked b either party with out any info .Any ways your league with reckless behaviour we understand its like what we called ,Naya Naya pasiey aye tu bunde ke khandani honey ka pata chul jata hai .
 
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With greater role of Gwadar to play, Pakistan will have to up its Navy.

Not sure about the nuclear role.
 
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Not everything is related just to Pakistan, if China are venturing in the Indian Ocean with Nuclear submarines do you expect us to do nothing and twiddle our thumbs?

Is this the first time nuclear submarines have been in our hands? we leased one back in the 80's but yes we always said we wanted a nuclear triad this is not new it's been our agenda for years and now we finally have it.
 
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Pakistan has raised the concern to the international community . Now Pakistan got a reason to defend itself & it will end up developing a nuclear submarine with ballistic missile. Thanks for helping India & Modi ^^

Good luck :tup:
 
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Pakistan can get a SSBN from China but the better option is to operationalize submarine launched cruise missiles. I guess this explains why Pakistan is going for Chinese subs which may come with YJ-18 cruise missile or even more deadlier one. If these Indian provocations are indeed for China then i believe that China has got the message, just wait for China's response to unravel now.
 
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In coming decade or so we are going to make sure that India will have an exclusive right over Indian Ocean. Unparalleled control is what IN is going for. You may call it hegemonic designs, evil Bharati designs, tilted strategic balance or whatever.
These developments are not a particular country specific. It's quite understandable the reason for pursuing tactical nukes by pak army. It knows there might be a decent parity it can sustain against Indian land forces but same can't be said about air warfare and definitely not naval warfare. Conventionally there is no match when taking all of the three arms into account. Few conventional subs won't make much difference to the outcome whereas leasing a nuke sub only consolidate the fact that for pakistan it's all gonna come down to nuke deterrence.
 
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Not everything is related just to Pakistan, if China are venturing in the Indian Ocean with Nuclear submarines do you expect us to do nothing and twiddle our thumbs?

Is this the first time nuclear submarines have been in our hands? we leased one back in the 80's but yes we always said we wanted a nuclear triad this is not new it's been our agenda for years and now we finally have it.
Hi,

I believe its more to do with the test launch of k-5 missiles ans its validation. Ofc it would prompt us to do the same thing.

Given the current capacity I dont think we can manage anything entirely on our own capacity at such colossal scale.
 
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Hi,

I believe its more to do with the test launch of k-5 missiles ans its validation. Ofc it would prompt us to do the same thing.

Given the current capacity I dont think we can manage anything entirely on our own capacity at such colossal scale.

Leasing a submarine and getting Chinese training on it would be the best option as it takes ages to train a crew on operating a nuclear submarine.
 
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