NATO MILITARY POWER 2019 (1000 Warships, 5000 Fighter Jets, 25.000 Airplanes)

[Beny Karachun]

not even close ......... Turkiye has enough technology and money to produce even 10.000 Ballistic and Cruise Missiles also long range glide Bombs and anti radiation Drones to burn tiny Israel

Israel has maximum 1.000 air defense Missiles ... maybe lower

so easy to beat tiny Israel , if needed




even old F-4s can fire 400+ km SOM air launched Cruise Missiles with Turkish KTJ-3200 engine

and Turkish BORA , SOM , ATMACA , KARGU , KUZGUN and soon KGK-LR , GEZGIN to destroy all Israeli Airbases which hosts F-15s and F-35s and Air Defense Systems in Israel


10 years ago Turkiye didnt have even its own guided Bombs ..... now Turkiye has everything
soon Turkiye also will show Iranians for their place
Nobody will able to threaten Turkiye with Ballistic and Cruise Missiles in the region

And Israel has the technology to manufacture thousands of more air defenses and ballistic missiles.

Israel has nukes. Pakistan will never defend you and you're a fool to think that way.

 

[MMM-E]

And Israel has the technology to manufacture thousands of more air defenses and ballistic missiles.

Israel has nukes. Pakistan will never defend you and you're a fool to think that way.

You are real fool who think that
since 1990s there are many military agreements including secret military agreements between Turkiye and nuclear power Pakistan .... Muslims are not stupid to be threatened by Nuclear Weapons


and you are talking about F-35

I prefer 10.000 of BORA Ballistic Missiles , SOM , ATMACA and GEZGIN Cruise Missiles and HISAR , SIPER , GUMS Air Defense Missiles for $10 billion instead of 100 of American control flying computer F35 Fighter Jets for $10 billion which can not even take off without American permission

to destroy Airbases which hosts F-15s and F-35s in Israel with Ballistic and Cruise Missiles
to destroy Airbases which hosts F-16s and Mirage-2000s in Greece with Ballistic and Cruise Missiles
to destroy Airbases which hosts RAFALEs and MIG-29s in Egypt with Ballistic and Cruise Missiles

Turkiye to focus on long range Ballistic and Cruise Missiles also Air Defense Systems against Greece,Israel,Iran and Egypt in the region

no need pilot , no need operation cost , no need maintenance , no need spare parts and no dependence on the US

-- 280-500-1.000 km KHAN/BORA Ballistic Missiles
-- 280-400+ km SOM air launched Cruise Missile
-- 800 km GEZGIN land/naval based Cruise Missiles
-- 1.500/2.000 km KARGU anti radiation Drone
-- 220+ km ATMACA Cruise Missile with anti ship/land atttack capabilities

-- PORSAV MANPADS
-- KORKUT 35mm SPAAG to intercept Cruise Missiles
-- HISAR-A low altitude Air Defense System to intercept Cruise Missiles
-- HISAR-O medium altitude Air Defense System to intercept Cruise Missiles and Fighter Jets
-- G-40 land based VL medium altitude Air Defense System based on BVR air to air Missile
-- SIPER high altiittude Air Defense System to intercept Fighter Jets
-- GUMS anti Ballistic Missile Defense Systems
-- S400 high altiittude Air Defense System to intercept Fighter Jets and Ballistic Missiles
-- TF-2000 class air warfare Destroyers

 

[IblinI]

When first looked at the thread title, I instanly knew this is a dream come true for Mr MMME.

 

[BON PLAN]

both long way to go for first flight, my estimate first flight will be after 2025 for both jets

you are far too optimistic for Turkey.
The project is less refine so far, they don't master key technology as S Korea, They just loosed the US support with the S400 clash, they never impressed anyone seriously with so advance complete weapon system.

Turkiye has already Ballistic Missile technology up to 1.000km .. ( single stage Ballistic Missile technology

Only the first stage? the most easier to developp....
A re entry vehicule is another beast to fine tune.... GOOD LUCK dreamer.

so easy to beat tiny Israel , if needed

They tried.
4 leagues muslim country...

AND THEY FAILED.

Turkey is a giant with clay feet. You only have big mouths.

 

[MMM-E]

The project is less refine so far, they don't master key technology as S Korea, They just loosed the US support with the S400 clash, they never impressed anyone seriously with so advance complete weapon system.

all of You have only lies , butthurt feelings and anti Turkish propaganda .... nothing else
because of Turkish military kicked all of you in Syria,Libya and in the Eastern Mediterranean

and Turkish UCAVs and KORAL Radar Electronic Warfare System impresed whole world in Syria and Libya
Europe doesnt have those technologies

Turkish AKINCI UCAVs will be enough to wipe out enemy Navies , Air Defense Systems , Attack Helicopters , Tanks , Howitzers , etc

thanks to Turkish Defense Industry to arm AKINCI UCAVs with

-- 280 km SOM-C network enabled anti ship missile to hit even moving Warships
-- 280 km SOM Cruise Missile to hit Air Defense Systems like S300VM-PATRIOT,SAMP-T
-- 74 km KUZGUN joint attack Bomb with IIR or MMW Radar seeker to hit mobile Air Defense Systems like PANTSIR-S1 , TOR-M2 and BUK
-- 65 km GOKDOGAN air to air missile to hit TIGER ,AH-64 and KA-52 Attack Helicopters or Wing Loong UCAVs
-- 8 km UMTAS anti Tank Missile with top attack capability to destroy LECLERC, ABRAMS and T90 Tanks

-- AESA Radar
-- SATCOM
-- 6 multi-core Artificial Intelligence Computers

Length : 12.2 m
Wingspan : 20 m
Operational Flight Altitude : 40.000 f
Endurance : 24 hours
MTOW : 5,500 kg
Payload Capacity : 1.350 Kg
Thrust Type : 2 x 450 Hp or 2 x 750 Hp Turbuprop Engines

-- Dual SATCOM + Dual LOS Communication System
-- Air to Air AESA Radar, Collision Avoidance Radar and Synthetic Aperture Radar
-- Fully Autonomous Flight Control System
-- Fully Autonomous Taxi, Take Off, Cruise, Landing without any external sensor air on the ground
-- GPS Independent Guidance System
-- Fully and Semi Automatic Flight Modes
-- Cross Redundant Ground Control Station Architecture
-- Unique Flight Control and Avionics Architecture
-- Dual Artificial Intelligence Avionics which supports for signal processing, sensor fusion and situational awareness in real time

ONE OF THE BEST IN THE WORLD

btw Turkiye develops almost 700 military projects ...... S.Korea not even close

Only the first stage? the most easier to developp....
A re entry vehicule is another beast to fine tune.... GOOD LUCK dreamer.

1.000 km range is enough to hit Athens,Damascus,Telaviv,Teheran and Cairo in the region

our dreams comes true year by year ... another great Turkish projectTÜBİTAK-SAGE DACS for anti Ballistic Missile Defense System

They tried.
4 leagues muslim country...

AND THEY FAILED.

Turkey is a giant with clay feet. You only have big mouths.

pathetic Arabs tried it who can not develop even Cruise Missile

We are great warrior TURKS who ruled part of China,India,Iran,Anatolia,1/3 of Europe , Egypt , N.Africa,Arabian Peninsula and all Middle East for centuries ....... ( only 130 years ago 44 countries in 3 continents were ruled by the Turks Ottoman Empire )

We are great warrior TURKS who kicked christian CRUSADERS (French+Germans+British combined )

 

[Beny Karachun]

You are real fool who think that
since 1990s there are many military agreements including secret military agreements between Turkiye and nuclear power Pakistan .... Muslims are not stupid to be threatened by Nuclear Weapons


and you are talking about F-35

I prefer 10.000 of BORA Ballistic Missiles , SOM , ATMACA and GEZGIN Cruise Missiles and HISAR , SIPER , GUMS Air Defense Missiles for $10 billion instead of 100 of American control flying computer F35 Fighter Jets for $10 billion which can not even take off without American permission

to destroy Airbases which hosts F-15s and F-35s in Israel with Ballistic and Cruise Missiles
to destroy Airbases which hosts F-16s and Mirage-2000s in Greece with Ballistic and Cruise Missiles
to destroy Airbases which hosts RAFALEs and MIG-29s in Egypt with Ballistic and Cruise Missiles

Turkiye to focus on long range Ballistic and Cruise Missiles also Air Defense Systems against Greece,Israel,Iran and Egypt in the region

no need pilot , no need operation cost , no need maintenance , no need spare parts and no dependence on the US

-- 280-500-1.000 km KHAN/BORA Ballistic Missiles
-- 280-400+ km SOM air launched Cruise Missile
-- 800 km GEZGIN land/naval based Cruise Missiles
-- 1.500/2.000 km KARGU anti radiation Drone
-- 220+ km ATMACA Cruise Missile with anti ship/land atttack capabilities

-- PORSAV MANPADS
-- KORKUT 35mm SPAAG to intercept Cruise Missiles
-- HISAR-A low altitude Air Defense System to intercept Cruise Missiles
-- HISAR-O medium altitude Air Defense System to intercept Cruise Missiles and Fighter Jets
-- G-40 land based VL medium altitude Air Defense System based on BVR air to air Missile
-- SIPER high altiittude Air Defense System to intercept Fighter Jets
-- GUMS anti Ballistic Missile Defense Systems
-- S400 high altiittude Air Defense System to intercept Fighter Jets and Ballistic Missiles
-- TF-2000 class air warfare Destroyers

Any country that joins a nuclear war is stupid, and Pakistan will not sacrifice itself to save anyone.

Besides, the US is our ally.

 

[MMM-E]

Any country that joins a nuclear war is stupid, and Pakistan will not sacrifice itself to save anyone.

Pakistan doesnt need the join a nuclear war
just nuclear warheads will be transfered to Turkiye from Pakistan ...... S.Arabia and Turkiye helped Pakistan to develop nuclear weapon for Islamic World

and Muslims never can use nuclear weapon first to kill millions of innocent civilians
just nuclear deterrence to protect themselves from bandit countries without ethical values against humanity

 

[Beny Karachun]

Pakistan doesnt need the join a nuclear war
just nuclear warheads will be transfered to Turkiye from Pakistan ...... S.Arabia and Turkiye helped Pakistan to develop nuclear weapon for Islamic World

and Muslims never can use nuclear weapon first to kill millions of innocent civilians
just nuclear deterrence to protect themselves from bandit countries without ethical values against humanity

Such a fool

 

[MMM-E]

Such a fool

you are real fool
Israel is walking dead sooner or later Israel will be destroyed
even your RABBIS very well knows about it

your SAMSON option can not save Israel

 

[Ultima Thule]

another butthurt TROLL who are trying to deflect the facts
Nobody here says Turkiye doesnt use American weapons ...

Yes Turkiye use a lot of American weapons as like the UK which use American weapons too such as F-35B , P8 Poseidon , E-3 AWACS , REAPER UCAV , HARPOON , TRIDENT SLBM , TOMAHAWK , CHINOOK , GMLRS , JAVELIN , C-130 , C-17 , AH-64 and many more

I am talking about UCAV technology and as of 2020 Turkiye is one of top 4 countries in the world with the US,Israel and China in UCAV techlogy

and Turkish UCAVs amazed the world in Syria and Libya

This shows you have no brain but a dog shit in your head instead of a brain, your old weapons are upgrades by whoms, like your F-4 upgrades and other old weaponry in Turkish military, and don't tell me that you did by yourself, they gave you defense tech so you upgraded you old military hardware

And as for UCAV , they have they capability to design and develop UCAVs as for why they are not developing may be they think buying foreign UCAV/UAV is more Cheaper than developing home grown UCAV/UAV which cost lot cheaper than researching/developing indigenous UAV/UCAV or politically motivated decision

YOU HAVE A DOG SHIT IN YOUR HEAD INSTEAD OF BRAIN

TEI TS-1400 Turboshaft Engine is now 1600shp

And tell me when this will complete

We dont care about Europe ...
Turkiye has its own agenda to develop the TFX , HURJET , AKINCI , MIUS , T-625 , T-629 , ATAK-II ,etc .... Turkiye is only muslim country that develop all those aviation projects

Yeah yeah whatever, and thanks to west/USA for to giving the basic defense tech

btw the TFX will be in service by 2030 , and there will be blockI , blockII , blockIII variants until 2040 to have 6th gen capabilities from 5th and 5+ gen

You think Stealth fighter project is that easy, look at development of F-22 its Project started in 1980 and inducted in 2005 F-22 takes 25 years to complete with all US industrial/scientific base, so you think Turkey have better Industrial/scientific base of USA/EU and Turkey will develop TFX in 10-15 years, this shows you have a thinking of 4 year old kid

you are a liar

Aselsan CAFRAD naval AESA Radar has been developed by Turkiye without any help from west/USA
also Aselsan develops 600km EIRS early warning AESA radar based on GaN technology for SIPER high altitude air defense system project

I am saying again Aselsan successfuly tested CAFRAD naval AESA Radar in 2018

And you're brainless TROLL, who gave you basic T/R tech to you tell me that, did you develop by yourself i don't thinks so lots of EU countries helping you in defense fields via joint ventures/Cooperation

yes you deep shit TROLL who know nothing about military

only 5.000 of Turkish BORA , SOM , ATMACA , KARGU , KUZGUN and soon KGK-LR , GEZGIN for $4 billion will be enough to destroy all Israeli military targets ( $40 billion ) Airbases , Jet hangars , F-15s , F-35s , Air Defense Systems including IRON DOME , DAVID'S SLING ,THAAD and ARROW in tiny Israel

Turkiye has enough technology and money to produce even 10.000 Ballistic and Cruise Missiles to burn tiny Israel

Israel can match with only pathetic Arabs who can not develop even Cruise Missile

And Isreal has no defense against your these propose /future weapons and sits idle when Turkish attack Israel what a childish opinion you have

And yeah yeah why do you to produce million BMs and CMs to burn Israel and will have a economical collapse
Israel is the only country that have a LASER defense systems for BMs/CMs

I ALREADY TOLD YOU YOU HAVE NO BRAIN BUT INSTEAD A BRAIN YOU HAVE DOG SHIT IN YOUR HEAD

what a TROLL

Everybody knows that there are S300,S400s in Russian military bases in Syria
I said that Russia never fired S300/S400 against Israel ..... you deluded TROLL



Dont reply me you liar deluded butthurt TROLL ....... I will not feed the TROLLs like you

Their is unwritten deal between USA/Russia not to engage each other in Syria, In fact Syria is a currently testing ground of new weapons

AND YOU"RE A DELUDED PERSON NOT ME, YOU LIVED IN YOUR FAIRY TALES AND I AM TALKING ABOUT REALITIES/FACTS

 

[MMM-E]

This shows you have no brain but a dog shit in your head instead of a brain, your old weapons are upgrades by whoms, like your F-4 upgrades and other old weaponry in Turkish military, and don't tell me that you did by yourself, they gave you defense tech so you upgraded you old military hardware

its not 1990s idiot .... its 2020
Turkiye develops almost 700 militay projects .... Israel not even close
when Turkiye has developed Aircrafts in 1936 and 1938 , there was no country called Israel but pro-American traitor politicans closed Aircraft Factory in Turkiye

thank president ERDOGAN that Turkish military project has risen to almost 700 from 66 between 2002 and 2020
stop trying to deflect the facts with your dog shit brain and watch and learn about Turkish military industry

btw The US gave money and technology to Israel ...

And as for UCAV , they have they capability to design and develop UCAVs as for why they are not developing may be they think buying foreign UCAV/UAV is more Cheaper than developing home grown UCAV/UAV which cost lot cheaper than researching/developing indigenous UAV/UCAV or politically motivated decision

YOU HAVE A DOG SHIT IN YOUR HEAD INSTEAD OF BRAIN

its your lie with your dog shit brain

now France is begging the US to arm REAPER
and Europeans spent billion euros but they failed as like EADS BARRACUDA , MANTIS and now EUROMALE

And you're brainless TROLL, who gave you basic T/R tech to you tell me that, did you develop by yourself i don't thinks so lots of EU countries helping you in defense fields via joint ventures/Cooperation

liar TROLL ... Turkish ASELSAN has developed everything which is one of the best defense company in the world

and there is no any joint ventures/Cooperation between the EU and Turkiye ... you liar TROLL

give a source or stfu

Israel is the only country that have a LASER defense systems for BMs/CMs

Israel has no even singe mode LASER Weapon ... The US helps Israel to develop LASER Weapon

the US and Turkiye have developed singel mode LASER Weapon ... China also working for singel mode LASER Weapon

in 2019 Turkish LASER Weapon shoot down Chinese made Wing Loong UCAV in Libya

 

[Philosopher]

Turkiye is one of top 4 countries in the world with the US,Israel and China in UCAV techlogy

Do you have a source for this claim?

 

[MMM-E]

Their is unwritten deal between USA/Russia not to engage each other in Syria, In fact Syria is a currently testing ground of new weapons

you deep shit TROLL we are talking about Israeli air strikes on Syria and Russia never use S300-S400 against Israel

You are not Pakistani ,,,, You are full of dog shit who know nothing about military as like Chinese TROLL Team

 

[Ultima Thule]

its not 1990s idiot .... its 2020
Turkiye develops almost 700 militay projects .... Israel not even close
when Turkiye has developed Aircrafts in 1936 and 1938 , there was no country called Israel but pro-American traitor politicans closed Aircraft Factory in Turkiye

thank president ERDOGAN that Turkish military project has risen to almost 700 from 66 between 2002 and 2020
stop trying to deflect the facts with your dog shit brain and watch and learn about Turkish military industry

And basic question is that who gave you basic defense tech to do advance research and upgrades, you develop these technologies by yourself, you paranoid troll

its your lie with your dog shit brain

now France is begging the US to arm REAPER
and Europeans spent billion euros but they failed as like EADS BARRACUDA , MANTIS and now EUROMALE

AH these not a big projects but secondary, i already gave you a reasons, it might be political decisions

liar TROLL ... Turkish ASELSAN has developed everything which is one of the best defense company in the world

and there is no any joint ventures/Cooperation between the EU and Turkiye ... you liar TROLL

give a source or stfu

Just one example F-35 project and K-2 black panther tank aka Altay and why you begged EF-200 engine from EU if you so much advance than EU countries

 

[MMM-E]

Do you have a source for this claim?

only the US,Israel and China can develop UCAV which is similar to Turkish AKINCI

as of 2020 Europe , Russia dont have their UCAV
Iranian UCAVs are toy to compare with Turkish AKINCI or Israeli EITAN or American REAPER