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NATO fuel tankers set ablaze in Pakistan

I don't think that is good...I know wt ever happened in past is really bad..But instead of blowing up trucks.. Pakistan needs to take other way to teach lesson to NATO..It's just questing the security level in Pakistan and USA(Nato) will find excuse to interfere again.
 
Because our Indian friends have simply no interest in the thread or the title or Nato. All they want to do is talk about Maoists and of course Kashmir. Its truely incredible how they even admit the reason why they are on this thread is because they object about other threads that are about Maoists etc? Whats the logic in that? Beggers belief how the topic if Kashmir has been forced into this thread! The obsession is simply too much!
On topic - i suppose we will never know if the tankers were emptied first and had their content sold before being "destroyed". Would make sense!! :azn:

Didnt know that Israeli false flaggers are also called Bhartis now :lol:

AT least they have honor to not to take a life, unlike those Bharati racists terrorists in Kashmire killing Muslims there.


AS for the tankers - stop the supply fully . Look what they did to the AFgan people after 9/11 and now they killing Pakistani civillains ?
 
Yes, do you know how much fuel is lost from 42 tankers?

The US is spending $400 per gallon for fuel that goes into Afghanistan:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503543_162-57337390-503543/real-cost-of-gas-at-afghan-bases-$400-gal/

The big tankers in Pakistan carry multiple fuel cylinders, some of the 100 gallon capacity, others 250 gallon capacity. We can safely assume that each tanker carries at least 500-1000 gallons of fuel.

Rough estimate losses: 400 x 1000 x 42 = $16.8 million losses
No sir these Tankerz have fuel carrying capacity of at least 7000Gallons......so the amount U calculated shold be multiplied by 7.....:smokin:
 
Tragic or pre planned? :angry:
The real terroristes are you, you have invade afghanistan and destabilised ASIA stop lying to us, we are not americans !!!


I proudly say afghan talibans are really kicking your *** and the work iis in progress, i compliment them for their exellent work, NOW GO TO THE HELL !!

Dear “PWFI”

“Tragic or pre planned?”

The truth continues to present itself over and over, and if you still choose to focus your attention towards conspiracy theories, then you are only providing these terrorists with a free pass to continue their dark and evil mission. Do you really think that it would make sense for us to target our own fuel tankers? Let’s not forget that these terrorists are as much of a threat to us as they are to Pakistan.

“The real terroristes are you, you have invade afghanistan and destabilised ASIA stop lying to us, we are not americans !!! I proudly say afghan talibans are really kicking your *** and the work iis in progress, i compliment them for their exellent work, NOW GO TO THE HELL !!"”

Al-Qaeda (AQ) and its counterparts openly claimed responsibility for 9/11, a terrorist attack which took thousands of innocent lives. The US went to Afghanistan to eliminate Al-Qaeda, who attacked us on our own soil, and the Taliban who gave them safe haven to plan global terrorism. The efforts of US and NATO forces in accordance with the Afghan government are leading the nation towards stability and security. Cooperation between the two countries should not be mistaken as the US invading or destabilizing Afghanistan. In fact, we have been training Afghans to independently assume responsibility for the great nation of Afghanistan.

Please read below and see for yourself. The days when Taliban had suppressed the nation of Afghanistan are long gone.

U.S. Central Command | Insurgents face unrelenting pressure in Afghanistan

Would it be possible to witness these changes, if our forces were failing to succeed against the Taliban?

Here you can watch how American, Italian and Afghan forces are securing Bala Murghab and have taken control back from the Taliban.

Securing Bala Murghab - YouTube

Here you can read about at least three failed attacks by the insurgents against Afghan and coalition targets.

U.S. Central Command | Insurgent failures mark start of winter operations in eastern Afghanistan

The truth has continued to unfold since 9/11, and facts can be easily separated from mere lies and propaganda. The hard work of US and NATO forces continues to lead Afghanistan towards recovery, and the people of Afghanistan have long begun to experience life in a free society. Though the baseless rumors regarding our efforts in Afghanistan continue, facts determine the truth. Please read the following link to see for yourself:

U.S. Central Command | Progress in Afghanistan Highlighted by Business Growth, Job Creation and New Infrastructure Projects

We sincerely hope that you will reconsider after reviewing these facts, and we look forward to providing you with additional information that might change your point of view regarding our operations in the region.

MAJ Nevers,
DET, United States Central Command
U.S. Central Command
 
Dear “PWFI”

“Tragic or pre planned?”

The truth continues to present itself over and over, and if you still choose to focus your attention towards conspiracy theories, then you are only providing these terrorists with a free pass to continue their dark and evil mission. Do you really think that it would make sense for us to target our own fuel tankers? Let’s not forget that these terrorists are as much of a threat to us as they are to Pakistan.

“The real terroristes are you, you have invade afghanistan and destabilised ASIA stop lying to us, we are not americans !!! I proudly say afghan talibans are really kicking your *** and the work iis in progress, i compliment them for their exellent work, NOW GO TO THE HELL !!"”

Al-Qaeda (AQ) and its counterparts openly claimed responsibility for 9/11, a terrorist attack which took thousands of innocent lives. The US went to Afghanistan to eliminate Al-Qaeda, who attacked us on our own soil, and the Taliban who gave them safe haven to plan global terrorism. The efforts of US and NATO forces in accordance with the Afghan government are leading the nation towards stability and security. Cooperation between the two countries should not be mistaken as the US invading or destabilizing Afghanistan. In fact, we have been training Afghans to independently assume responsibility for the great nation of Afghanistan.

Please read below and see for yourself. The days when Taliban had suppressed the nation of Afghanistan are long gone.

U.S. Central Command | Insurgents face unrelenting pressure in Afghanistan

Would it be possible to witness these changes, if our forces were failing to succeed against the Taliban?

Here you can watch how American, Italian and Afghan forces are securing Bala Murghab and have taken control back from the Taliban.

Securing Bala Murghab - YouTube

Here you can read about at least three failed attacks by the insurgents against Afghan and coalition targets.

U.S. Central Command | Insurgent failures mark start of winter operations in eastern Afghanistan

The truth has continued to unfold since 9/11, and facts can be easily separated from mere lies and propaganda. The hard work of US and NATO forces continues to lead Afghanistan towards recovery, and the people of Afghanistan have long begun to experience life in a free society. Though the baseless rumors regarding our efforts in Afghanistan continue, facts determine the truth. Please read the following link to see for yourself:

U.S. Central Command | Progress in Afghanistan Highlighted by Business Growth, Job Creation and New Infrastructure Projects

We sincerely hope that you will reconsider after reviewing these facts, and we look forward to providing you with additional information that might change your point of view regarding our operations in the region.

MAJ Nevers,
DET, United States Central Command
U.S. Central Command

Dear CENTCOM i will agree with the whole of your above statement if you can answer this question of mine .

If AQ who killed around 3000 people in Twin tower are terrorists , OK i agree they are .

now

on this WOT you & your Allies have killed around half a million innocent civilians , You killed 150 times more then they have , now What are you ??
 
@CENTCOM

9/11 is the one thing which you can't even prove after so many years. It was Osama who denied any involvement in 9/11 (Hamid mir's interview). If you are pointing towards Osama's video then most of the analysts thought it's a fake one. But US didn't care what ever anyone says. Taliban said they will tell Osama to leave prior to attack, and US raise their demand and provided 20 people list and before Taliban could respond they attacked the Afghanistan clears what was their motive.

There was no TTP prior to 2003, no terrorism in Pakistan prior to this.

On the top of that, USA who came as saviors for Aghan people are the most corrupt people. Popi crops which were finished by Aghanistani Taliban was back again after US invadation, and now Afghanistan tops in this.
 
Boys,

If the fuel wasn't paid for by NATO then its a loss to us, if it was fully paid in advance then good one !!

NATO are using their missiles to blow up human beings.

Now they are complaining that someone is burning their trucks?

:disagree:

The resentment and the blame game only allows our common enemies a free pass to continue their mission against our nations, and we can all see that they are not wasting any time, and are taking full advantage of the current situation. The time has come for us to refrain from indulging in conspiracy theories and hold the obvious culprits responsible for their actions. The enemy is well aware that our relationship is heavily strained at the moment, and unless we refocus our attention on eliminating the obvious threat, they will continue to cause more damage and destruction. The truth is that the repercussions associated with letting these terrorists off the hook affect the whole region, and the proof lies in the series of attacks on both sides of the border since the “Salala” incident. The ultimate decision rests with us. Either we can continue to point the finger at each other and allow the common enemies to carry forward their evil mission, or hope that our governments will redirect their efforts against the enemies of our nations, for the sake of the whole region.

‏MAJ Nevers,
DET, United States Central Command
U.S. Central Command
 
The resentment and the blame game only allows our common enemies a free pass to continue their mission against our nations, and we can all see that they are not wasting any time, and are taking full advantage of the current situation. The time has come for us to refrain from indulging in conspiracy theories and hold the obvious culprits responsible for their actions. The enemy is well aware that our relationship is heavily strained at the moment, and unless we refocus our attention on eliminating the obvious threat, they will continue to cause more damage and destruction. The truth is that the repercussions associated with letting these terrorists off the hook affect the whole region, and the proof lies in the series of attacks on both sides of the border since the “Salala” incident. The ultimate decision rests with us. Either we can continue to point the finger at each other and allow the common enemies to carry forward their evil mission, or hope that our governments will redirect their efforts against the enemies of our nations, for the sake of the whole region.

‏MAJ Nevers,
DET, United States Central Command
U.S. Central Command

centcom stop being a self righteous prick, you are presenting your country as totally innocent and in this process losing ur respect, to begin the cooperation punish those who are responsible, waiting for ur reply

cheers
 
centcom stop being a self righteous prick, you are presenting your country as totally innocent and in this process losing ur respect, to begin the cooperation punish those who are responsible, waiting for ur reply

cheers

@Karachipunk...let the investigation report of NATO comes out. till wait.
 
The resentment and the blame game only allows our common enemies a free pass to continue their mission against our nations, and we can all see that they are not wasting any time, and are taking full advantage of the current situation. The time has come for us to refrain from indulging in conspiracy theories and hold the obvious culprits responsible for their actions. The enemy is well aware that our relationship is heavily strained at the moment, and unless we refocus our attention on eliminating the obvious threat, they will continue to cause more damage and destruction. The truth is that the repercussions associated with letting these terrorists off the hook affect the whole region, and the proof lies in the series of attacks on both sides of the border since the “Salala” incident. The ultimate decision rests with us. Either we can continue to point the finger at each other and allow the common enemies to carry forward their evil mission, or hope that our governments will redirect their efforts against the enemies of our nations, for the sake of the whole region.

‏MAJ Nevers,
DET, United States Central Command
U.S. Central Command
Mr. U looklike a very nice person but I'm sorry to say that the ruling elite in US/NATO are nothing but just Devilz/Masonics/Luciferianz/Satanists/Anti-Christs.....They create terrorists and then cry after them to kill them.. They are playing bothwayz fooling their innocent American Public, looting their money and lives.Their whole created war is nothing but total deception....The OBL and AQ was alwayz secretly funded by the masonics agents in CIA , MI6 or Mosaad around the world....Their AQ is still running secretly by these Luciferianz agents....If U believe it or not but These Masonic/Luciferianz are working under the disguise of different religious extremists group's leaderz forwarding their evil agendas of Killing the innocent humans around the globe....and please if U take it as conspiracy theory and didn't try to look into it or search for it then I can only pray for U too.......and I guess U are more smarter than me and my little info/knowledge.......:smokin:
 
Pakistan truckers back NATO supply blockade - Military News | News From Afghanistan, Iraq And Around The World - Military Times


CHAMAN, Pakistan — Sleeping in a freezing cab, running out of money and worried about militant attacks, Ghulab is one of thousands of truck drivers stranded as a result of Pakistan’s blockade of the Afghan border to NATO and U.S. war supplies.

But they and the businessmen who run what has been a lucrative trade for most of the last decade say they support the decision to shut the frontier in retaliation for coalition airstrikes almost two weeks ago that killed 24 Pakistani troops in two remote border outposts.

“We risk our lives and take these supplies to Afghanistan for NATO, and in return they are killing our soldiers,” said Jan, whose fuel truck is parked in a terminal in the dusty, dangerous border town of Chaman in southwestern Baluchistan.

“This is unacceptable, and we unanimously support the government over closing the border.”

Given the current anti-U.S. sentiment in Pakistan, drivers might not want to call publicly for the border to reopen. Even so, their stance illustrates the depth of anger in this country over the attack and the challenge the U.S. faces in repairing a relationship that is critical to its hopes of ending the Afghan war.

“I hope Allah grants my prayer that this NATO supply ends permanently,” said Ghaza Gul, a 45-year-old driver who has been in the trucking profession since was he was 10 years old, when he washed the vehicles and made tea. “I would rather die of hunger than carry these shipments,” he said, sitting on a dirty mat with other drivers at a terminal in Karachi, the port city where the supplies are unloaded.

Pakistan closed its two Afghan crossings in Chaman and Torkham, in the northwest Khyber tribal area, almost immediately after NATO aircraft attacked two army posts along the border on Nov. 26. The supply lines account for 40 percent of the fuel, clothes, vehicles and other “non-lethal” supplies for the Afghan war.

President Barack Obama and other American officials have expressed their condolences for the deaths and promised a full investigation into what they have said was an accident. But this has done little to assuage anger in Pakistan, where the military has continued to describe the attack as a deliberate act of aggression.

The government, needing to show a firm response to placate critics who have long protested its alliance with Washington, has also retaliated by demanding that the U.S. vacate an air base used for CIA drones and by boycotting an international conference aimed at stabilizing Afghanistan.

Many analysts believe Pakistan and the U.S. want to avoid a total rupture of their difficult relationship because of its mutual strategic importance. Pakistan needs American aid and cannot afford diplomatic isolation; Washington wants Islamabad’s help with Afghanistan.

For that reason, most people believe the trucks will start rolling again soon, likely within a few weeks.


The trucks are currently parked at terminals close to the border, some in large towns in the area. The drivers have remained with the vehicles, suggesting that the trucking companies believe the stoppage will be temporary.

“It won’t be much longer,” said Imtiaz Gul, director of the Center for Research and Security Studies in Islamabad. “They can’t sustain it indefinitely. It would alienate the whole world,” he said, referring to the many countries that have troops in the coalition.


NATO officials have said the coalition has built a stockpile of military and other supplies that could keep operations in Afghanistan running at their current level for several months even if the route through Pakistan remains closed.

The coalition has reduced its dependence on Pakistan over time by developing alternative routes that enter Afghanistan through Central Asia. NATO could seek to expand those routes, but that would make the coalition heavily dependent on Russia at a time when ties with Moscow are increasingly strained.

Last year, Pakistan kept the Torkham crossing closed for 11 days after U.S. helicopters accidentally killed two Pakistani troops. It reopened the route along the fabled Khyber Pass after Washington formally apologized.

Militants and criminals, some reportedly working with trucking companies engaging in insurance scams, took advantage of the situation to carry out near-daily attacks against trucks stacked up in poorly guarded terminals and roadside rest stops. The attacks killed several people and destroyed about 150 vehicles.

Authorities have taken stronger steps to protect the trucks this time around.

Many of the vehicles were ordered to drive south away from the militant-infested border areas in the northwest, said truck owners and drivers. Those that remained were prohibited to park along the road, where they were most vulnerable, and were instead put in terminals that may not be 100 percent safe but at least have some security.

There has been only one attack since Pakistan closed the border on Nov. 26.

Assailants fired rockets at a terminal for fuel tankers close to Quetta, the capital of Baluchistan province, on Thursday, torching at least 23 trucks but causing no casualties. No group has claimed responsibility for the attack.

That attack rattled Jan and other truckers in Chaman, about 75 miles from where the rockets hit.

“Last night I could not sleep as I feared that there might be a Quetta-like attack here in Chaman as well,” said Jan.

Asif Mehmood, chairman of the Pakistan Transport Federation, was the only person involved in the trade to call on the government to allow NATO to resume shipments. He said the attack was an accident and shouldn’t have been met with such retaliation.


“This is a weak government that comes under pressure from the army and acts without reason,” said Mehmood.

But others said the government was right to punish NATO.

“Transport is our business and certainly business is important to us, but our nation is more important to us than anything else,” said Shakir Khan, president of the Khyber Goods Transport Association. “At this testing time, we steadfastly stand with our nation and our army.”

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Associated Press writer Ashraf Khan in Karachi and Chris Brummitt in Islamabad contributed to this report.
 
Says who? If everthing was paid upfront Pakistan would not be cribbing that they have not been paid for 2010 till date.

Says me, my friend's father supplies fuel to NATO forces in Afghanistan so i know how the business works. Contracts like these are provided to private contractors and not the Government, thus NATO has to pay the money upfront to get the supplies. No Western company is willing to provide the logistics nor the insurance for the cargo that go through Pakistan due to the danger of the job and also the complications of doing business in Pakistan. Thus, NATO foots the bill for any cargo that is lost in any terrorist attack.
 
Says me, my friend's father supplies fuel to NATO forces in Afghanistan so i know how the business works. Contracts like these are provided to private contractors and not the Government, thus NATO has to pay the money upfront to get the supplies. No Western company is willing to provide the logistics nor the insurance for the cargo that go through Pakistan due to the danger of the job and also the complications of doing business in Pakistan. Thus, NATO foots the bill for any cargo that is lost in any terrorist attack.

Looks like the chairman of the US joint chiefs of staff disagrees with you ;)

US needs to tackle Pakistan

excerpt from the link

"The general insisted that those who were burning Nato fuel trucks in Pakistan were doing little harm to the US. “When they torch fuel, it is not our fuel they are torching. We do not pay for fuel until it gets to us.”"
 

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