National Flag Code

[Hamza913]

oh so you follow the Indian propaganda? It will be useless debating with you.

No, I follow this thing called facts, you can find them in books, through the Internet, or by listening to real life examples.

Out of the 5 Bangladeshi friends I know, 3 of them have had a family member get some sort of abuse from the Pakistani Army in 71. That's surely not a coincidence, especially when you see the documentaries and all the evidence online for yourself. How many of them died isn't clear, but there were certainly some brutal acts that were carried out.

As for Baluchistan, you can find plenty of info online too. Amnesty and HRW themselves have talked about the stuff going on there.

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

It's a flag, not the Quran. Don't treat it at such a high level, keep in mind nationalism is a sin and also stupid.

Ethnic nationalism is a sin; not religious nationalism.

That flag represents no race or ethnicity; it represents unity of hundreds of ethnic groups bound together by Islam. It represents Islam, so it must be respected.

 

[war&peace]

Well, it's our national flag, it must be respected and loved. Whenever I travel to Pakistan, I rarely see it as compared national flags of other countries in their respective countries. Laws are good only if those are logical and can be conveyed to the people and interpreted easily. Antiquated and copy pasted laws from other nations or colonial times should be revoked or amended.

Must never be flown in darkness.

I'm wondering what is the logic and implications behind it. Does it mean it can only be hoisted in the day time and should be removed before the dark / night what?

 

[Hamza913]

Ethnic nationalism is a sin; not religious nationalism.

That flag represents no race or ethnicity; it represents unity of hundreds of ethnic groups bound together by Islam. It represents Islam, so it must be respected.

The flag represents Pakistan. Yes Pakistan may have been founded on the basis of Islam, but we are most certainly not an Islamic nation.

 

[Curious_Guy]

I heard its about flag not being visible at night thats why flag is lowered at all places before evening famous example being Wagha border . And if flag i to be hoisted at night must be in well lit area .

p.s - i also found out about this when i was hoisting flag on my house at night and a retired PAF officer said now lit a light over it . Then i searched and found this code .

I'm wondering what is the logic and implications behind it. Does it mean it can only be hoisted in the day time and should be removed before the dark / night what?

 

[war&peace]

I heard its about flag not being visible at night thats why flag is lowered at all places before evening famous example being Wagha border . And if flag i to be hoisted at night must be in well lit area .

p.s - i also found out about this when i was hoisting flag on my house at night and a retired PAF officer said now lit a light over it . Then i searched and found this code .

Okay chhotay guddu

 

[Jf Thunder]

No, I follow this thing called facts, you can find them in books, through the Internet, or by listening to real life examples.

Out of the 5 Bangladeshi friends I know, 3 of them have had a family member get some sort of abuse from the Pakistani Army in 71. That's surely not a coincidence, especially when you see the documentaries and all the evidence online for yourself. How many of them died isn't clear, but there were certainly some brutal acts that were carried out.

As for Baluchistan, you can find plenty of info online too. Amnesty and HRW themselves have talked about the stuff going on there.

i always wondered why any International Organization never talked about the massacre of West Pakistanis in East Pakistan during the terror campaign of the Awami League?
you do realize that repeating a lie and propaganda over and over and over again will make it a fact in the eyes of poeple like you?
Tell me the names of the books you have read, because the ones I have read talk differently:
1) Truth Behind the 3 Million by Abdul Munem
2) Betrayal of East Pakistan by A A K Niazi
3) Hamood Ur Rehman Commission Report by Vanguard Publishers
4)Dead Reckoning by Sarmila Bose

im sorry but the so called "Balochis" picked up by the ISI were terrorists and spies.
and im sure once Zarb E Azb is over there will be people writing books about how cruel the PA was to the poor "terrorists" in the Tribal Areas.

And those killed in East Pakistan by the PA were also terrorists, terrorizing the peaceful community of Bengalis and East Pakistanis

 

[Hamza913]

i always wondered why any International Organization never talked about the massacre of West Pakistanis in East Pakistan during the terror campaign of the Awami League?
you do realize that repeating a lie and propaganda over and over and over again will make it a fact in the eyes of poeple like you?
Tell me the names of the books you have read, because the ones I have read talk differently:
1) Truth Behind the 3 Million by Abdul Munem
2) Betrayal of East Pakistan by A A K Niazi
3) Hamood Ur Rehman Commission Report by Vanguard Publishers
4)Dead Reckoning by Sarmila Bose

im sorry but the so called "Balochis" picked up by the ISI were terrorists and spies.
and im sure once Zarb E Azb is over there will be people writing books about how cruel the PA was to the poor "terrorists" in the Tribal Areas.

And those killed in East Pakistan by the PA were also terrorists, terrorizing the peaceful community of Bengalis and East Pakistanis

West Pakistanis were mistreated in 1971, but to say it was even comparable to what the Bangladeshis faced is laughable, even if you go by Pakistan's claims. If you want to know a source about the war crimes, Pakistan. Pakistan itself has stated 20,000 innocent Bangladeshis died, that's most certainly a war crime. So even according to Pakistan, atrocities were carried out.

Most Baluchi's picked up are bad yes but many are innocent too, at the end of the day it's the typical capital punishment country's employ, and it's brutally efficient. If 1 steps out of line, beat up the other 20. Eventually, the 20 men will get sick of things and turn on that 1, getting rid of him. It's a classic tactic that works, but it isn't right. However, morals and a country's interests rarely exist as one in the same.

Zarb E Azb is technically over, we are just in clean up phase. And anyone who says war crimes happened there is an idiot, because everyone got evacuated.

 

[Jf Thunder]

West Pakistanis were mistreated in 1971, but to say it was even comparable to what the Bangladeshis faced is laughable, even if you go by Pakistan's claims. If you want to know a source about the war crimes, Pakistan. Pakistan itself has stated 20,000 innocent Bangladeshis died, that's most certainly a war crime. So even according to Pakistan, atrocities were carried out.

Most Baluchi's picked up are bad yes but many are innocent too, at the end of the day it's the typical capital punishment country's employ, and it's brutally efficient. If 1 steps out of line, beat up the other 20. Eventually, the 20 men will get sick of things and turn on that 1, getting rid of him. It's a classic tactic that works, but it isn't right. However, morals and a country's interests rarely exist as one in the same.

Zarb E Azb is technically over, we are just in clean up phase. And anyone who says war crimes happened there is an idiot, because everyone got evacuated.

oh you just wait and see, people WILL say ATROCITIES DID HAPPEN.


and Pakistan NO WHERE said that 20,000 INNOCENT Bengalis were killed, it was an operation just like Zarb E Azb, where terrorists were wiped out, now if after 45 years you can say that the Mukhti Bani terrorists which were killed by the PA were innocent, then im pretty sure you will say the same about the TTP dogs being killed in NW right now.


As for Balochistan, you dont see people getting picked up now, do you? why? becuase most of them are cleared.
Terrorists were picked up, and any innocents that were, were done by spy agencies to turn the Baloch against us.

 

[Hamza913]

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and Pakistan NO WHERE said that 20,000 INNOCENT Bengalis were killed, it was an operation just like Zarb E Azb, where terrorists were wiped out, now if after 45 years you can say that the Mukhti Bani terrorists which were killed by the PA were innocent, then im pretty sure you will say the same about the TTP dogs being killed in NW right now.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamoodur_Rahman_Commission

 

[Jf Thunder]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamoodur_Rahman_Commission

dont quote wikipidea, did you read the actual report? because it says the figure of 20,000 provided by GHQ itself, is still quite high, but it shall be accepted as authentic. And it nowhere mentions that they were innocents, it was the total number killed, who knows how may were terrorists, and how many collateral damage?

 

[Hamza913]

dont quote wikipidea, did you read the actual report? because it says the figure of 20,000 provided by GHQ itself, is still quite high, but it shall be accepted as authentic. And it nowhere mentions that they were innocents, it was the total number killed, who knows how may were terrorists, and how many collateral damage?

It was the number of innocents, the total number of militants killed from what I know is 30,000, if you go by a broad definition, like calling someone who hides militants a militant.

 

[Jf Thunder]

It was the number of innocents, the total number of militants killed from what I know is 30,000, if you go by a broad definition, like calling someone who hides militants a militant.

yeah, they are called "facilitators" they are being punished right now too, its just like I said, a few years from now people will be saying how the Brutal PA killed innocent TTP and their facilitators.

 

[Hamza913]

yeah, they are called "facilitators" they are being punished right now too, its just like I said, a few years from now people will be saying how the Brutal PA killed innocent TTP and their facilitators.

Probably, but they won't have any proof since media coverage during Zarb E Azb is limited.

 

[Jf Thunder]

Probably, but they won't have any proof since media coverage during Zarb E Azb is limited.

and media coverage during the Operation Searchlight was alot right?