Nation building activities of the Pakistani Army

[Xeric]

No infact never I feel that we should have a one year military course where people join up after high school and after one year of training and leadership they go back into the real world as reformed people who can bring change as I said the army needs to train and later when neccesary they can even turn to this institution of people it has trained for support.

Lolzz..now you are talking in terms of conscriptions.

 

[Bane Blade]

Lolzz..now you are talking in terms of conscriptions.

Indeed I am I think that it benefits the people alot because alot of the students that are highly educated are not open people and one year with the army will straighten everyone out we should even have padre units which train Imams to be soldiers and conduct prayer with every unit and spiritually help the problems of the soldiers.

 

[Zob]

i disagree conscript armies are bad armies look at the soviets,or the argentanians in the falkland wars.....army should be made up of proper professionals!!!!!

 

[Bane Blade]

i disagree conscript armies are bad armies look at the soviets,or the argentanians in the falkland wars.....army should be made up of proper professionals!!!!!

They won't be officers untill they complete the ISSB or join regular squaddie with their choice but a certain level of training should be given it is in Islam that archery swimming and horse riding is neccesarry for all Muslims in case you are planning on calling me a hypocrite I am currently in a territorial army under Britain but it isn't permanent and I certainly won't be called up or commissioned.

 

[Xeric]

in case you are planning on calling me a hypocrite I am currently in a territorial army under Britain but it isn't permanent and I certainly won't be called up or commissioned.

Wow wow wow!...
Well we have a soldier among us...
Which unit are you part of? The National, Regional or Sponsored?

i disagree conscript armies are bad armies look at the soviets,or the argentanians in the falkland wars.....army should be made up of proper professionals!!!!!

Well Zob no one is recommending the conscription thing, i was just shaking BB, so chill.

Conscription is in no way recommendable.

 

[Bane Blade]

Wow wow wow!...
Well we have a soldier among us...
Which unit are you part of? The National, Regional or Sponsored?

The Scottish Highlanders and it is regional so that is why I don't think I will be commisioned to fight in Afghanistan though I am willing to discuss the options of joining PA if their is anyway possible for EME division because I am doing my Mechanical engineering at the moment.

 

[Xeric]

The Scottish Highlanders and it is regional so that is why I don't think I will be commisioned to fight in Afghanistan though I am willing to discuss the options of joining PA if their is anyway possible for EME division because I am doing my Mechanical engineering at the moment.

Well what would you do if they decide to send you?

As for joining the EME, they probably dont take direct inductions in EME, doctors and Vet Docs are taken in as captains, but i don't remember any Mechanical Engineer being inducted directly.

 

[Bane Blade]

Well what would you do if they decide to send you?

As for joining the EME, they probably dont take direct inductions in EME, doctors and Vet Docs are taken in as captains, but i don't remember any Mechanical Engineer being inducted directly.

I haven't had enought training to be sent outside and if I do have enough training I might go for one or two tours not more.

 

[Xeric]

Miscellaneous National Tasks

Assistance in Aid of Civil Administration
Army has been always forthcoming in assisting civil administration with its own resources in all tasks which has a contributory effect towards nation building.

Elections / Census

Army has played an extremely important role in conduct of fair and free election and successful census.

Establishment of National Data Base

For the first time in the history, a National Data Base is being created in the country, data for which was collected by the Army during conduct of Census. Army has also provided basic manpower infrastructure including officers and men for conduct of the task. Once completed it will help government in providing good governance through improved decision making at all levels.

Other tasks also include assistance in conducting of national elections in 1993 and 1996, carrying out the much delayed national census in 1998, survey of Ghost Schools providing assistance in improved functioning of WAPDA and desilting of canals. A comparison of desilting in 1999 and 2000 to show the difference made by participation of Army in this operation under Army:

* 15,544 miles desilted as compared to 6,742 miles in previous year.
* Rs. 129 million were expended as compared to Rs. 322 million expended in the previous year.
* 55,000 outlets were checked, 32000 were found tampered and were corrected.
* 30-40% extra supply of water was received by tail end users.
* Desilting of canals and water channels contributed, in a large measure, to the bumper wheat crop of 23 million tons in one of the driest years of last two decades.


Education System

Army is already running some of the best education institutions in the country. National University of Science and Technology, Cadet Colleges and a large no of Army Public Schools/ Federal Government institutions are few visible examples. The beneficiaries include 57% civilians.


Crisis Management

Since independence there have been numerous occasions where the services of the armed forces have been requisitioned by the civil authorities to enable them to cope with disasters or difficulties for which they found their own resources inadequate. These tasks have ranged from rescue and relief operations during natural calamities like earthquake and floods, occasional tasks like Anti-Locust Operations undertaken during the locust menace of 1951-53 in Punjab, Sindh and Baluchistan, to Anti Wild Boar Operations of 1961 carried out in Punjab and Sindh. Each formation of the Army in any part of the country has detailed plans prepared and duties well defined to deal with these contingencies at short notice. Some of the task Army is and has been employed in Aid of Civil Power are:

Law and Order

Army is always called in to restore law and order during sectarian, political and other incidents of violence.

Flood Relief Operations

Participation of Army in Flood Relief Operations has assumed permanence. These include rescue of life livestock and property, distribution of food, clothing, epidemic control and earth works.


Relief Missions to Iran


The recorded proof of which is our latest humanitarian sp to Iranian brothers who were hit by an earthquake claiming approx 50,000 lives. Details are given in succeeding paras.

As a result of the earthquake, which hit the Bam City of Iran on 26 December 2003, a self-sustaining 50-bedded Field Hospital was deployed in Iran on 30 December 2003 and an Engineer Task Force on 6 January 2004. Troops for Field Hospital and Engineers Task Force were mustered and formed within a period of 24 hours and 72 hours respectively.

After completion of relief work, Pak Field Hospital was de-inducted on 22 January 2004 and Engineers Task Force was de-inducted on 18 February 2004.

Humanitarian assistance provided by both contingents was highly appreciated by the people and Government of Iran in general and residents of Bam in particular. The Prime Minister of Pakistan has also conveyed his appreciation of good work undertaken by Pakistan Army.

Significant achievements of both relief missions are as under:

Field Hospital

* Treatment provided to over 20010 patients, which included major / minor operations of 993 patients.

Engineer Task Force

* Debris clearing of 245 houses.
* Leveling of ground in an area of 406,500 square meters.
* Shifting of relief stores and Petroleum, Oils and Lubricants containers (foodstuff and blankets) for Red Crescent within Bam city.

 

[Bane Blade]

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Could you give me the link to the facts on census provided again.

 

[Xeric]

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Could you give me the link to the facts on census provided again.

Well i took all this information from the Army website:
www.pakistanarmy.gov.pk

 

[Bane Blade]

I was only asking incase you are wondering because the government paid independant census calculating organistaions millions to simply show estimates so if the army can do the job why do we waste that money?

 

[Xeric]

I was only asking incase you are wondering because the government paid independant census calculating organistaions millions to simply show estimates so if the army can do the job why do we waste that money?

Well the Arm has been doing it, but may be if the govt wants that the Army should stick to its own job, then they might have hired someone else or may be it was jut another way to 'eat' more money!

 

[Bane Blade]

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I was curious because I was wondering if this was some kind of money making scheme by the welfare minister

 

[Xeric]

Some more on KARAKORAM HIGHWAY

A new all-weather road, the Karakoram Highway connecting Rawalpindi/Islamabad with China's Xinjiang Province runs through the Northern Areas.

The 805 kms dual carriage metalled road starts from Havelian, 100 kms from Islamabad and winds through Abbottabad-Mansehra-Thakot-Besham-Pattan-Sazin- Chilas-Gilgit-Hunza to the Chinese Frontier across the 4,733 meters high Khunjerab Pass. The road built by the Pakistan Army engineers in association with the Chinese experts and technicians has been described as a marvel of civil engineering and even as "The Eighth Wonder of the World". Completed in 15 years, it has been forced through some of the world's toughest terrain. The road not only opens up the Northern Areas to trade and travel but provides easy access to hitherto closed regions, connected by jeep or goat tracks.