Rabbit.Rabbit
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Appreciate the good works of army.
But still why do they have to control cement, steel mills and the like?
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Appreciate the good works of army.
But still why do they have to control cement, steel mills and the like?
even if we ignore all this, i still dont think if there is anything wrong with army owning such organistaions. all the investment they are making is only goin to our economy
I personally feel that it is wrong in many ways and I am sure that it would have taken tax payer money to build atleast once so it is in alot of ways unfair.
Evidently, not much of ' nation building' is visible from what I have just read. It is more of the PA looking after its own self with a corpus of funds made available by the tax payer. That the nation gets "built" in the bargain is co incidental.
Wonder if similar options are available to other Govt organizations - with the same manner of funds to exploit
Well they have worked for the public in ways of highways and the Fauji Foundation isn't that bad but I feel that despite all the management it isn't their duty to do this they could teach and scrutinise but not run the setup.
As for all government agencies having a fair chance I don't actually think so.
Military Inc.
Evidently, not much of ' nation building' is visible from what I have just read. It is more of the PA looking after its own self with a corpus of funds made available by the tax payer. That the nation gets "built" in the bargain is co incidental.
Wonder if similar options are available to other Govt organizations - with the same manner of funds to exploit
Constructing highways would have qualified as ' nation building' if it was done either free or at cost price. If the Fauji Foundation took / charged a margin then how are they any diff from any other civil construction firm ?
Care to elaborate how funds are available by the tax payer?It is more of the PA looking after its own self with a corpus of funds made available by the tax payer.
Exploit???Wonder if similar options are available to other Govt organizations - with the same manner of funds to exploit
They are commercial organization and they charge the margin, is there a problem with that, does your commercial entities work free for the indian govt?Constructing highways would have qualified as ' nation building' if it was done either free or at cost price. If the Fauji Foundation took / charged a margin then how are they any diff from any other civil construction firm ?
Yes you got it right now, they are for the fauji and by the fauji, PRIMARILY, but they also work separately, and sorry sir, they don't use their military clout.The only diff being that this one is ' for the fauji's by the fauji's'. They possibly use their Mil clout to get what they want & at their own terms too thus stifling competition.
Care to elaborate how funds are available by the tax payer?
And then you go on and on about the equality and fairness.......
Now i was expecting that question and i am glad you did...i have a long story to tell on this..just give me a moment, i'll be right backWell they can't exactly pay for the initial setup without any support from tax payer money all it means is that they must have taken taxpayer money at some point.
Take some time out and wonder what if all these organization get dissolved today...ooooo..scary nah!!
I personally feel that it is wrong in many ways and I am sure that it would have taken tax payer money to build atleast once so it is in alot of ways unfair.
in economics there is term called 'vertical integration'. eg of this is that a firm making tanks should acquire steel mill (which is where the raw material is comin from) and another eg might be that a counstruction company should acquire cement factory. this increases the efficiency and also profitability. now i guess this is wat our army has done. they have almost acquired everything they need. they have got a steel mill to provide raw material for HIT at relatively cheaper rates. HIT in return must be sellin their products to army at a cheaper rate. askari bank might be providing loans to army at lower interest rates. same goes for cement factory and others.
although they built all this from tax money, but now they are only saving tax payers money by being more efficient.
Come on jack, dont disagree just for the sake of it.Your logic theorizes that NASA should have been mining coal to make steel it needs.
Too much vertical integration will lead to inefficient handling of resources and increase in variable costs and delay costs for a firm. Also note that the integration here is across service and industrial sectors.
in economics there is term called 'vertical integration'. eg of this is that a firm making tanks should acquire steel mill (which is where the raw material is comin from) and another eg might be that a counstruction company should acquire cement factory. this increases the efficiency and also profitability. now i guess this is wat our army has done. they have almost acquired everything they need. they have got a steel mill to provide raw material for HIT at relatively cheaper rates. HIT in return must be sellin their products to army at a cheaper rate. askari bank might be providing loans to army at lower interest rates. same goes for cement factory and others.
although they built all this from tax money, but now they are only saving tax payers money by being more efficient.