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Even with ICBMs Pakistan is toast, where would Pakistan hide all these ICBMs?? In the case of any American nuclear assault on Pakistan it would begin with obliterating Pakistani ICBMs. If Pakistan wants to establish MAD with the US it should spend some money on Nuke subs instead. The missiles it currently has are sufficient and instead they should work on making them fully MIRV capable to offset any Indian interceptors. For the subs Pakistan should make enough that they cannot be easily be tracked or if they want to purchase subs that can shoot nuclear tipped missiles they should look at the German Dolphins.

A Nuclear Sub is already in the pipe-line ! :D

Dude, something wrong with my proxy email account. Didn't get it! :blink:

I did it again ! :undecided:
 
@A.Rafay

http://www.defence.pk/forums/bangladesh-defence/18824-news-bangladesh-79.html#post3846679

in reply to ur reply on bangladesh thread,cant post pics there otherwise they will beat u not me :P

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You wont quit trolling even on Bangalis thread poor bangalis :rofl:
 
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@haviZsultan you mentioned me in a post, my question is why?? I did not understand what you meant.
 
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@haviZsultan you mentioned me in a post, my question is why?? I did not understand what you meant.

What Luffy did I did not like. Rather than going behind the person's back I mention him when I am talking about him unless I don't want him to get involved. In the future if you do not wish this do tell me.

My concern was why do you hate Ahmedis? Aren't you an American and aren't Americans usually more tolerant than us?

How could anyone support persecution of Ahmedis there while having tea with them half the time? US did allow a guy named Muslim Khan free reign in the country and the first thing he did when he came home was attack Pakistani citizens. It was said he was "loyal to America" while he stayed and worked as a painter. He had fought in the Afghan-Soviet war... surprisingly no one thought of arresting him while he lived in US for 10+ years. If you google him you will find he was spokesman for TTP and according to insider information (people of Swat) he shot 2 captured soldiers or policemen in cold blood.

I was just asking because the previous case was in note. I felt that Americans either purposely or knowingly either shelter or refuse to act against people who are likely to target the Pakistani state. I am not targeting you but seems very strange. I lived in Canada and had 3-4 Ahmedi friends. Never a single problem. One was beaten by thugs just because he was an Ahmedi. I learned to sympathize with them there instead of the opposite.
 
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What Luffy did I did not like. Rather than going behind the person's back I mention him when I am talking about him unless I don't want him to get involved. In the future if you do not wish this do tell me.

My concern was why do you hate Ahmedis? Aren't you an American and aren't Americans usually more tolerant than us?

How could anyone support persecution of Ahmedis there while having tea with them half the time? US did allow a guy named Muslim Khan free reign in the country and the first thing he did when he came home was attack Pakistani citizens. It was said he was "loyal to America" while he stayed and worked as a painter. He had fought in the Afghan-Soviet war... surprisingly no one thought of arresting him while he lived in US for 10+ years. If you google him you will find he was spokesman for TTP and according to insider information (people of Swat) he shot 2 captured soldiers or policemen in cold blood.

I was just asking because the previous case was in note. I felt that Americans either purposely or knowingly either shelter or refuse to act against people who are likely to target the Pakistani state. I am not targeting you but seems very strange. I lived in Canada and had 3-4 Ahmedi friends. Never a single problem. One was beaten by thugs just because he was an Ahmedi. I learned to sympathize with them there instead of the opposite.

We should be Tolerant to different religions, i personally dont hate ahmadis. Arent they non-muslims according to our Constitution? they have altered our religion thats the thing which looks bad to me!
 
We should be Tolerant to different religions, i personally dont hate ahmadis. Arent they non-muslims according to our Constitution? they have altered our religion thats the thing which looks bad to me!

I agree. I do not count the Ahmedis as Muslims either but to make them feel better have said it to them though. I think we concentrate on non-consequential issues too often when we have major things to concentrate on. We should leave the Ahmedis alone and let them do what they want. The constitution we all know is wrong and that law is the brainchild of Zia Ul Haq. We were all minorities in the sub-continent once. God forbid someone does to us what was done to us there. We should feel sympathy for them. We can hate them all our lives but harder to sympathize with them.
 
What Luffy did I did not like. Rather than going behind the person's back I mention him when I am talking about him unless I don't want him to get involved. In the future if you do not wish this do tell me.

My concern was why do you hate Ahmedis? Aren't you an American and aren't Americans usually more tolerant than us?

How could anyone support persecution of Ahmedis there while having tea with them half the time? US did allow a guy named Muslim Khan free reign in the country and the first thing he did when he came home was attack Pakistani citizens. It was said he was "loyal to America" while he stayed and worked as a painter. He had fought in the Afghan-Soviet war... surprisingly no one thought of arresting him while he lived in US for 10+ years. If you google him you will find he was spokesman for TTP and according to insider information (people of Swat) he shot 2 captured soldiers or policemen in cold blood.

I was just asking because the previous case was in note. I felt that Americans either purposely or knowingly either shelter or refuse to act against people who are likely to target the Pakistani state. I am not targeting you but seems very strange. I lived in Canada and had 3-4 Ahmedi friends. Never a single problem. One was beaten by thugs just because he was an Ahmedi. I learned to sympathize with them there instead of the opposite.

I had no problem with you mentioning me, I just wanted you to clarify what you meant. I never said I hate qadianis, what I did say was that I do not sympathize with them because they started all the crap which has blown up in their face. @Armstrong asked if the ruling against them was valid or even democratically and I said it was also listing reasons why. I do not have tea with qadianis around here, I know a lot of them but for the most part they stick to themselves. They have their own mosques and do not hang out with others. I have one qadiani friend who I attended school with which is the only reason we are on a good basis and we never talked religion so I did not know he was even a qadiani until he told me himself. Consider that despite complaining about the fact that they are declared non muslims they themselves have not done anything to lessen the divide. They will not marry a non qadiani even after all these years, will not attend non qadiani mosques, or even funerals of non qadiani. The story of Muslim khan has nothing to do with qadianis and I do not see why you bring that up.

I agree. I do not count the Ahmedis as Muslims either but to make them feel better have said it to them though. I think we concentrate on non-consequential issues too often when we have major things to concentrate on. We should leave the Ahmedis alone and let them do what they want. The constitution we all know is wrong and that law is the brainchild of Zia Ul Haq. We were all minorities in the sub-continent once. God forbid someone does to us what was done to us there. We should feel sympathy for them. We can hate them all our lives but harder to sympathize with them.

Actually that law was implemented by ZAB after heavy pressure from Shah Faisal of KSA. Did you know qadianis cannot travel to Mecca or Medina? Every Muslim country has declared them apostates. Zia ul Haq took over in 1978 when the law was already basically in the books.
 
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