Myanmar Nation unity government calls for Civil War

[Indos]

BTW my id pic is myself,I wouldn't expose my adult face on the internet.But you can guess me from that if you want.

LOL look like you use old photo to make you look Whiter

Modern camera can capture much better. I believe you have shown your brown hand in BD threat some time ago @DalalErMaNodi

Men, there is nothing bad of being brown. As men, it shows masculinity

 

[Indos]

Here I give you some

Here Indonesian TV anchor, Shahnaz, with black dress, I believe is prettier than Korean guess there, despite she is brown skin.

@Leishangthem

 

[DalalErMaNodi]

LOL look like you use old photo to make you look Whiter

Modern camera can capture much better. I believe you have shown your brown hand in BD threat some time ago @DalalErMaNodi

Men, there is nothing bad of being brown. As men, it shows masculinity

lol, don't worry about that guy bro, he's just confused about where he belongs

Whoever is desperate to prove themselves 'white' has an inferiority complex and they have low self esteem ..


Btw being a few shades lighter means nothing, Caucasians only treat Caucasians the same way, even whitest Asian is an alien to them.


I never really understood why some people are so desperate to get some approval from white folks that too just for skin colour ..

 

[Abu Shaleh Rumi]

I will make significant amount of donation to upcoming burmese "Civil Jihad".

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

When did I made the claim that I should be associated with anybody?

Our kind carries a very distinct and strong notion about our identity and origin and never part from that.

We are made by cross of 7 clans of EbuthouPakhangba,with pretty uniform genetic distribution because ,those 7 clans were banned from intermarriage in one's own clan. Hence we can instinctly tell who's Meitei from other communities ,based on appearances& behavior.

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We have our own mythology and belief,Ebuthou Pakhangba is our god who came to earth his two companion kangla sha that used to guard our holy Kangla fort.

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The Meitei kingdom in Kangla founded by dragon demi god Nongda Lairen Pakhangba and her wife dragon queen Leima Leisna.

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We also have our own indigenous mythology characters to follow instead of foreign ones,

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And we still have our distinct culture and faith,even our temple is nothing like anything else.

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Nobody in Meitei carries any confusion about our distinct origin and identity.Our's is a ethnicity shaped by war for survival and existence of our kin.
Still now our folk's names is based on local mythology and war and warlike traditions not seen anywhere else.

Common traditional names for Women: Lanlei (warflower) ,Lanchenbi( warbringer/war carrier) ,Lanleima ( war missus),lanthoibi(war excellence).lanleima(war goddess)

Men's name: Ching Tam Khomba (hill plain conqueror), Lanchenba(harbringer of war),lansana(war gold),lanthoi (war excellence), ChinglaiNgamba( dragon killer),Nonglenkhomba (Clouds,frost conqueror/son of water god) etc

Now ,going by science , genetic and linguistically distinction labels my kind in tibeto burman/sino Tibetan subgroup not Austro Asiatic linguistic subgroup that's just fact, not my claim.

But we have as much compassion toward East asian as much as for South east asians,because there are groups from Austroasiatic linguistic groups(khashi,darlong)as well as tibeto burman in this region living with great affinity among eachother and they all share common fear of massive migration from outside.

Tbh, my folk don't want to associate with anyone else, associating them with someone else by ignoring the culture and history will be offensive to them.Forget people from other nation,our people label all South Asians as "mayang" & all indigenous communities like Naga,mizo,kachin etc ,as "HAO", there's nothing in between.They don't really relate to anyone else .
0ur kind are in retrospect,very different sets of people than yours which are champion of Middle Eastern belief with no regard for its indigenous roots,unfortunately.

BTW my id pic is myself,I wouldn't expose my adult face on the internet.But you can guess me from that if you want.

Never read something crazy as this. Very war loving. Swords, snake god, war, war, water, gold, conqueror, more war, war, water, gold, war, war. Obviously you project, accusing Islam of being something similar. Islam means peaceful submission to the unseen God who created me and all humans and the universe. It is not a local god based on some tribe's ego.

 

[MH.Yang]

I just explained where our notion is regarding our strong sense of identity among ourselves .

In 880 AD, Huang Chao, the leader of the peasant uprising, defeated the Tang Dynasty and established the Qi Dynasty. Huang Gao, the royal family of the Qi Dynasty, intermarried with the princess of the king of Qiang in Central Asia.
In 884 AD, the Qi Dynasty was defeated in the war of Chenzhou, and Li Keyong restored the Tang Dynasty. Huang Gao led his subordinates and people from Yunnan to South Asia. This is the origin of Manipur Meitei people.
This history is recorded in < New Tang history book >.

Personally, I think Meitei should be similar to the Bai or Hani ethnic groups in China. They all belong to the southward migration ethnic group after mixing Qiang royal blood and Han blood. But they stayed in Yunnan China and didn't go to South Asia.
But this history has passed 1300 years, and Meitei people should have their unique culture long ago. They should be independent civilizations, not a branch of some civilization.

Finally, I translated a poem by Emperor Huang Chao of the Qi Dynasty. It is very famous in China.

待到秋来九月八，我花开后百花杀。
冲天香阵透长安，满城尽带黄金甲。

Yellow chrysanthemum(Huang means yellow).
Wait until the autumn of September 8, only the chrysanthemum blossomed and the other flowers withered. Chang'an city is full of the fragrance of chrysanthemums. Chrysanthemums all over the city are like soldiers in gold armor over the city.

I wish your nation can be as proud and tenacious as chrysanthemums and bloom alone in the autumn when all flowers wither.

Directed by Zhang Yimou and starring Jay Chou, Chow Yun fat and Gong Li < 满城尽带黄金甲 >

 

[fallstuff]

East Asians (and Vietnamese&Singaporeans) are actually crazy believers in Confucian philosophy. Any religion spread to East Asia will soon become a revised version of Confucianism.
The core of Confucianism is "中庸", which means that everything is neither too left nor too right, but in the middle. Don't be impatient, don't be excited, don't make extreme choices, and don't do anything to the extreme, leave room for retreat.
In such a philosophical environment, it is difficult for any religion to be extreme.

Confucianism is not a religion. It will accept any religion, but it will modify these religions. In fact, after communism spread to East Asia, it was also modified by Confucianism.

Your point of China trying stay in the middle lane just doesn't sit well with reality. China has a thing about doing things in epic scale. Mao's actions were nothing like Confucius, he looked down on Confucius.

It is not only Mao, China's one child policy after Mao was an extreme act of the Government action which does not reflect the path of staying in the middle lane.

 

[mb444]

No need to be sorry. You can have your own opinion! Soon I shall post two interviews of a person who is professional dumbest person ( hence more dumb than amateur dumb like me) !

Read all links thoroughly!




So I think that Chinese authority is even more dumb than my opinion , it's a disaster for Chinese people

Here is the video of interview of the chief editor of defense journal BD ; the only defense journal of Bangladesh!

And the second one is

If you are interested, you can watch full videos , he explained everything with maps.

If you are kinda lazy , or extremely busy .then read the text!

It's bengali,

মালাক্কা ডিলেমা, বাংলাদেশ ও রোহিঙ্গা সমস্যা

‘মালাক্কা ডিলেমা’ কি এক সময় বাংলাদেশ ও রোহিঙ্গাদের জন্য কঠিন সমস্যা হয়ে দাঁড়াবে? সিরিয়ার যুদ্ধ শেষ হলে আমেরিকা কোথায় নতুন যুদ্ধ শুরু করবে? তা কি ঘটতে পারে বঙ্গোপসাগরে, বাংলাদেশের বাহির বাড়ির উঠানে? বিষয়টি বুঝতে হলে প্রথমেই দেখে নেয়া যাক ‘মালাক্কা ডিলেমা’ কী এবং এটি কতটা ঝামেলা পাকাতে পারে।

www.jugantor.com

And it's English (you can find lots of articles in English) .

Could a Naval Blockade Bring China to Its Knees?

It won’t be easy.

nationalinterest.org

And now

The Malacca Dilemma and Chinese Ambitions: Two Sides of a Coin

Introduction Malacca Dilemma is a word coined in 2003, by the then Chinese President Hu

diplomatist.com

YES through the dangerous karakoram highway , and it's very easy right ? China will have to be heavily dependent of one highway only for it's entire supply line while 90% of trades are done by sea routs nowadays?

So Easter part of China where 1.3 billion Chinese left should be relied on the karakoram highway to connect to the sea. Indeed it Will be hugely beneficial for china. Hey man do you know that how much the cost will raise? Will the money fall from sky?



Yes exactly India can't strop unarmed Chinese , as every Chinese soldier is Achilles, I am convinced.

However keep in mind and that is even achilles had his weak point too and that's his hill, and the weak point cause the miserable death of him by an arrow shot of coward Paris ( who is champion of retreating) !

So what are you talking about do you know?

And who said that India will come? India has Andaman and Nicobor island and USA will use it to block the strait.



Oh really? And Indian master usa and west will be sucking goat dick right?

However enough for now. If you read all links I've posted, then I will write more.

Thank you for posting the various videos and articles, i went through them except your second video which i can not seem to play.

The first video was great and i agree on the primary point that BD must not closely align with anyone. We do not need to because no one party can wholly fulfil our requirements.

We must embrace all, west economically, china strategically, islamic world politically, democratic world ideologically and our neighbours multilaterally.

I specifically agree with him on the following

- India is the monkey to US organ grinder

- Our defense lies in national unity. We require a suitable defense capacity against indian misadventure.

- We have received substantial assistance from China, the west, muslim nations in time of need.

- Our economy is dependent on the west and arab world.

- although he did not specifically articulate it but the transition of power away from west to china is forcing strategic recalibration by major powers. This is and will cause tensions. This represents certain amout of threat and opportunites for BD.

- Our link to the west and muslim world is greater than china

-Proxy propaganda and low level war has started in burma. West is likely to be behind it to wrest control from china. In this space i do not think india is involved. Stable burma is in both china and indias interest as it preserves status quo of sorts. Both have ports in burma to connect their respective hinterland to the sea.

But fundamentally disagree on the following points

- Malacca straights is obviously chinas chicken neck. Many world powers are present there to safeguard the sea lanes. But is war likely....NO....not at all. It serves absolutely no ones interest to have a war.

- Chinas ridiculous 7 dash to claim the entire south china sea is idiotic. It is leverage vis-a-vis malacca straights. China wont attack taiwan and really if it does US wont go to war over it. Again the prize is too small to risk war, it serves absolutely no one.

- What is the implication for BD. My opinion nothing at all. BD obviously will be massively impacted if there is a war as a result of the global economy collapsing but it wont be party to the war. We given our non alignment can in the foreseeable future will have complete freedom of operation to carry on trading because we are not steeping on anyones interest.

- Bangladeshs strategic position is not unclear....its crystal clear...... completely on everyones side and on no ones side. Strategy is simple.... total and complete obfuscation because it is the logical choice. I agree with him that everyone else would also want a stable non aligned BD. The status quo serves everyone.

-BD should have given port to china. Lets be clear here... these are our ports. Other countries offered to assist us build them but we will pay for them. It was never a gift from china. BD needs to follow its own interest and BD must reserve the right to change its mind if it does not suit it. It is purely economics.

- Lastly this guy should stick to strategy and not economics. BDs foreign currency reserves are not held at US federal reserves, it is held by BoB. We do not need or require federal reserves permission to raise a letter of credit. Laughably inaccurate nonsense.

 

[VikingRaider]

Thank you for posting the various videos and articles

You are welcome.

, i went through them except your second video which i can not seem to play.

You have to play it from YouTube, just click play on YouTube.

However that's video you played is also from the same channel, but the channel of Abu rushd ( not sure if its his channel or not ,but the video is actually from open the eyes) ! Or you can search on YouTube . Just write ,

"পাকিস্তান কি বাংলাদেশের বন্ধু হবে, open the eyes!"

Do it otherwise you won't understand the full scenario.

But fundamentally disagree on the following points

- Malacca straights is obviously chinas chicken neck. Many world powers are present there to safeguard the sea lanes. But is war likely....NO....not at all. It serves absolutely no ones interest to have a war.

..... .... ..

What is your profession if you don't mind me asking?

If you are not physician, so to whom should I go when I'm sick?

To you or to @Homo Sapiens or @Avicenna ?

Well if you aren't physician and demand that people will follow your prescription instead of @Avicenna and @Homo Sapiens , then I've nothing to say,because there is no point of argument.

Abu rushd is former military officer and Bangladesh defense journal is the only defense journal in Bangladesh. By default they understand military strategy and espionage world Much more than civilians!

Military operation and strategy isn't like British parliament where civilians are allowed to vote .

So in this case I will strictly follow specialist opinion; same as I would go to @Avicenna , or @Homo Sapiens or to any other physicians ( who are specialist on the field) when I'm sick, won't seek for public opinion if they are agree or disagree!

However watch the video of YouTube search with the whole sentence, "পাকিস্তান কি বাংলাদেশের বন্ধু হবে, open the eyes!" you will understand more.

Thanks and peace!

@mb444

 

[Leishangthem]

LOL look like you use old photo to make you look Whiter

Modern camera can capture much better. I believe you have shown your brown hand in BD threat some time ago @DalalErMaNodi

Men, there is nothing bad of being brown. As men, it shows masculinity

Lol that's a first,I don't mind browning though,I just like each ethnicity in their natural skin color.I dislike those bleached indonesians and thai too.
0f course its an old photo from 90s ,but it's easy to tell the hue is light golden yellowish mainland asian mongoloid skin before all that sun tanning.

I don't think you are aware of pure mongoloid skin from asia mainland. They can get really pale with less sun exposure but also darker based on sun exposure ,they have a completely different hue, even the tanned mongoloid from mainland when put side by side,will look paler compared to South Asians or equatorial archipelago asian natives with natural higher melanin.



A chinese with sun tan & chinese living in India.

I don't mind tanning though,I spend like at least 2 hours on a two-wheeler in t-shirt the 40 degree scorching sun of Dehradun/delhi for work or meeting with colleagues ,when I'm in India .My skin is like panda due to sunburn in Indian heat.

My arms next to kim jong un,though me and my arms more sun scorched in the heat of 35-40 degree heat of India and my S21 makes everything looks darker and browner. Iphone showed real hue of our skin.


But ,bro get real,you live in the equatorial line,it's scientific that indigenous community living in the equatorial line will have significantly higher melanin. Meanhile our indigenous community mainly resides in a region higher than lower south china,close to the Himalayan range . It's not natural for us to have the same melanin lvl as Indonesians.

Can you tell significant skintone difference between these three girls? The meitei lady obviously faced significant sun effect being in India and the lifestyle that involves more sun exposure compared to korea.

Average skin tone of Meitei in the current lifestyle

People can get much more pale depending on lifestyle especially woman who aren't effected by sun as much


It's also pretty common to find not just fair but seriously pale kind of woman in Imphal.

One can even find look-a-like of top kpop idols ,but only more natural.

AESPA(karina)

Men, there is nothing bad of being brown. As men, it shows masculinity

When did I say that was good or bad? But melanin content like South Asians and Indonesians are simply not the norm for Tibeto Burman/Sino Tibetan communities like meitei,thankhul, angami naga.I never mentioned skin color to you .

 

[Paul2]

The only thing I can understand in Burmese is when they shout saat, saat, saat! That's very clear, and intentions are telling.

 

[MH.Yang]

Your point of China trying stay in the middle lane just doesn't sit well with reality. China has a thing about doing things in epic scale. Mao's actions were nothing like Confucius, he looked down on Confucius.

It is not only Mao, China's one child policy after Mao was an extreme act of the Government action which does not reflect the path of staying in the middle lane.

Do you think the CCP is an extreme left? Well, that's because you've not seen a more extreme left. To be fair, the Chinese version of communism is already the least extreme version.

China has had the habit of building large projects since ancient times, such as the Great Wall. But not because of extremism, but because China entered the imperial era very early.
In 221 BC, Qin Shihuang unified China. He abolished the enfeoffment system and adopted the county system. All officials were appointed by the emperor. He also unified Chinese characters, currencies, weights and measures, etc. This has turned China into a homogeneous society and greatly strengthened the rights of the central government. Since then, China's imperial dynasties have been able to build large projects.
This is capacity, not extremism.

Yes, Mao Zedong did not like Confucius, because he believed that Confucianism prevented China from entering true communism.
But Mao Zedong himself had the smell of Confucianism, and he did not get rid of the shackles of Confucian culture in the end. The Chinese who are familiar with him can clearly feel this. From Mao Zedong's poetry, way of thinking and so on, we can all feel the characteristics of Confucian. This is also the reason why the CCP will become what it is now.

Family planning is a means to solve China's population problem. First, we don't discuss whether it is correct. I will only talk about "中庸" in its implementation.
Do you know that family planning has not been thoroughly and strictly implemented, and left a lot of room for retreat?
For example, ethnic minorities do not need family planning because the CCP respects their national habits. For example, the poor in rural areas do not need family planning because their families need labor, and so on. This is "中庸".

 

[casual]

Rest assured, Myanmar will not be chaotic.
The current impasse is that the Myanmar military government refuses to restart the B&R Project and asks China to recognize the military government first. Of course, China will not agree. Therefore, in the end, the military government must reach a compromise with Daw Aung San Suu Kyi to solve the Myanmar crisis.
The junta actually just wants the NLD to pardon them for their previous corruption. Burma's army commander-in-chief min Aung Lai retired this year. He asked Aung San Suu Kyi to give him a pardon before he retired, but Aung San Suu Kyi refused. Other military leaders in Myanmar believe that Aung San Suu Kyi also will not give them a pardon. then the military launched a coup.
So both sides have a lot of room for compromise.

there won't be any negotiated settlement. that ship has sailed long ago. Junta will rule over the main cities and the ethnic armies will rule the border areas.

 

[mb444]

You are welcome.

You have to play it from YouTube, just click play on YouTube.

However that's video you played is also from the same channel, but the channel of Abu rushd ( not sure if its his channel or not ,but the video is actually from open the eyes) ! Or you can search on YouTube . Just write ,

"পাকিস্তান কি বাংলাদেশের বন্ধু হবে, open the eyes!"

Do it otherwise you won't understand the full scenario.

What is your profession if you don't mind me asking?

If you are not physician, so to whom should I go when I'm sick?

To you or to @Homo Sapiens or @Avicenna ?

Well if you aren't physician and demand that people will follow your prescription instead of @Avicenna and @Homo Sapiens , then I've nothing to say,because there is no point of argument.

Abu rushd is former military officer and Bangladesh defense journal is the only defense journal in Bangladesh. By default they understand military strategy and espionage world Much more than civilians!

Military operation and strategy isn't like British parliament where civilians are allowed to vote .

So in this case I will strictly follow specialist opinion; same as I would go to @Avicenna , or @Homo Sapiens or to any other physicians ( who are specialist on the field) when I'm sick, won't seek for public opinion if they are agree or disagree!

However watch the video of YouTube search with the whole sentence, "পাকিস্তান কি বাংলাদেশের বন্ধু হবে, open the eyes!" you will understand more.

Thanks and peace!

@mb444

I am merely giving you my opinion, nothing else.

I have given you my reasons, please reject if you disagree which is fine.

 

[Indos]

Lol that's a first,I don't mind browning though,I just like each ethnicity in their natural skin color.I dislike those bleached indonesians and thai too.
0f course its an old photo from 90s ,but it's easy to tell the hue is light golden yellowish mainland asian mongoloid skin before all that sun tanning.

I don't think you are aware of pure mongoloid skin from asia mainland. They can get really pale with less sun exposure but also darker based on sun exposure ,they have a completely different hue, even the tanned mongoloid from mainland when put side by side,will look paler compared to South Asians or equatorial archipelago asian natives with natural higher melanin.



A chinese with sun tan & chinese living in India.
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I don't mind tanning though,I spend like at least 2 hours on a two-wheeler in t-shirt the 40 degree scorching sun of Dehradun/delhi for work or meeting with colleagues ,when I'm in India .My skin is like panda due to sunburn in Indian heat.

View attachment 777035View attachment 777040
My arms next to kim jong un,though me and my arms more sun scorched in the heat of 35-40 degree heat of India and my S21 makes everything looks darker and browner. Iphone showed real hue of our skin.


But ,bro get real,you live in the equatorial line,it's scientific that indigenous community living in the equatorial line will have significantly higher melanin. Meanhile our indigenous community mainly resides in a region higher than lower south china,close to the Himalayan range . It's not natural for us to have the same melanin lvl as Indonesians.
View attachment 777042

Can you tell significant skintone difference between these three girls? The meitei lady obviously faced significant sun effect being in India and the lifestyle that involves more sun exposure compared to korea.
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Average skin tone of Meitei in the current lifestyle


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People can get much more pale depending on lifestyle especially woman who aren't effected by sun as much


It's also pretty common to find not just fair but seriously pale kind of woman in Imphal.
View attachment 777051View attachment 777055

One can even find look-a-like of top kpop idols ,but only more natural.

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AESPA(karina)


When did I say that was good or bad? But melanin content like South Asians and Indonesians are simply not the norm for Tibeto Burman/Sino Tibetan communities like meitei,thankhul, angami naga.I never mentioned skin color to you .

Here Manipur Basketball team....

Indonesian High school player

Black Costume team is Chinese Indonesian (Christian School)