My PAK-FA analysis

[Myth_buster_1]

it took the americans 135 billion dollars to send shuttle to moon .it took india only 400million dollars for chandrayaan .and guess what we found water first!!!!!!!!!pak fa is a stealth aircraft.the russians know how to manufacture one..just give them 5 more years. they will beat the f 35.

And you think India all of sudden has struck alien technology? I know i may disturb your ********* but India is not the first one to find water in the moon. So basically the rocket was russian EASA and NASA systems that made possible for a country to compete China in space race.

 

[RAHUL INDIAN]

And you think India all of sudden has struck alien technology? I know i may disturb your ********* but India is not the first one to find water in the moon. So basically the rocket was russian EASA and NASA systems that made possible for a slum dog country to compete China in space race.

Indian device MIP on the probe had found water earlier... and then it was furthur corroborated by the NASA device..

 

[foxbat]

And you think India all of sudden has struck alien technology? I know i may disturb your ********* but India is not the first one to find water in the moon. So basically the rocket was russian EASA and NASA systems that made possible for a slum dog country to compete China in space race.

sir

I think the point was that the 1st entity to achieve something new takes a lot more money and effort to get it right. The subsequent entrants dont have to go thru the same mistakes and hence can achieve the feat at a fraction of the cost and effort.

Also shouldnt you be comparing India's space race position with Pakistan instead of with China..?? You dont see Indians responding to Chinese posts boasting of Russian technology...

 

[gogbot]

And you think India all of sudden has struck alien technology? I know i may disturb your ********* but India is not the first one to find water in the moon. So basically the rocket was russian EASA and NASA systems that made possible for a slum dog country to compete China in space race.

Not to disturb your *********

India was the first to find water on the moon. That's why the headlines went
India discovers water on the Moon.

ISRO invited many foreign organizations to place Instruments on CH-1, free of charge in the spirit of Space Cooperation. these instruments Would complement ISRO's Indigenous ones already placed aboard.

One of those Key instruments was the Moon Impacted probe, Which detected water in the Dust after its landing on one of the moons poles.
Since One of the instruments NASA had requested placed on CH-1 was specifically tasked to look for water. ISRO contacted NASA about their Findings, Optimistic Then they both reached consensus to verify their finding with the NASA instrument, thus getting a second opinion.
Upon Verification and analysis of data.

ISRO became the organization that discovered water on the moon.
And it was not the result of some nationalistic ideology to show how good you are. ISRO did it with good scientific work and international collaboration.

you can call us the "slum dog" nation, but this nation has its flag on the moon.
And when asked what is it that India has contributed to the field of space research in the last decade.

We can clearly say
"In 2009 India's CH-1 Discovered and then verified the presence of water on the moon."

Beyond the widespread, recognition of ISRO as a serious Player since CH-1.

Its even had an impact on the lighter side of life. Take a look.

Video: Deep Space Naan | The Daily Show | Comedy Central

As much as it might pain you to admit it, we have had our moment in the lime light, and we are only going to get more and more of it.

 

[saurabh]

And you think India all of sudden has struck alien technology? I know i may disturb your ********* but India is not the first one to find water in the moon. So basically the rocket was russian EASA and NASA systems that made possible for a slum dog country to compete China in space race.

You don't seem like a Chinese to me
Why not compare with Pak tech

What is your problem? You seem just like our opposition parties !! Opposing just for namesake, whatever the matter may be, however much you know (or not know) about that matter. And India a

slum dog country

So tell me, if India is so backward, why everyone in your country is obsessed about it?

 

[krish]

And you think India all of sudden has struck alien technology? I know i may disturb your ********* but India is not the first one to find water in the moon. So basically the rocket was russian EASA and NASA systems that made possible for a slum dog country to compete China in space race.

and guess who is talking a dog who's country dont even have a space program and whose state policy is to be a parasite................ and depend on others for every need.....................

 

[Kinshuk]

And you think India all of sudden has struck alien technology? I know i may disturb your ********* but India is not the first one to find water in the moon. So basically the rocket was russian EASA and NASA systems that made possible for a slum dog country to compete China in space race.

Sir Growler,

Sorry but you should mind your tongue. If we are slum dog then you are giving a default definition of your very own Pakistan..

If you are a rational man, then you would be sorry for what you said.

Thanks.

 

[baba firangi]

And you think India all of sudden has struck alien technology? I know i may disturb your ********* but India is not the first one to find water in the moon

What??.. No mention of "PATHOLOGICAL LIER" in your accusation this time..
Am devastated..

So basically the rocket was russian

No..No.. The rocket was Pakistani.. Made by SUPARCO..

Is it that you are acting ostrich, or is google banned in your country too??..

EASA and NASA systems that made possible for a slum dog country to compete China in space race.

So finally.. Your PAK-FA Analysis boils down to this... This SLUM DOG country cannot compete with China in space race..

Tujhe mirchi lagi toh mai kya karun..

BTW am not surprised at the term you used for my country.. Its totally Expected of you.. And i am sure the people who openly lecture us Indians to talk civil won't bat an eyelid over you calling us as SLUMDOG COUNTRY.. Aah.. I forgot.. Its your forum and you run the show.. So much for Civility and modesty.. Long live PAKISTAN

 

[baba firangi]

and guess who is talking a dog who's country dont even have a space program and whose state policy is to be a parasite................ and depend on others for every need.....................

Aaahhhh... Am appalled at your poor classification capacity boss.. You don't call a pig as a dog.. a pig is spelled as P-I-G.. Please be careful next time..

 

[Valiant_Soul]

No mention of "PATHOLOGICAL LIER" in your acquisitions this time..
Am devastated..

No..No.. The rocket was Pakistani.. Made by SUPARCO..

Is it that you are acting ostrich, or is google banned in your country too??..

So finally.. Your PAK-FA Analysis boils down to this... This SLUM DOG country cannot compete with China in space race..

Tujhe mirchi lagi toh mai kya karun..

Thanks for a good humor.

 

[marcos98]

@growler, might want to go through these.........

 

[marcos98]

Andrey Lagarjkov, Director General of the United Institute of High Temperatures of the Russian Academy of Sciences (and an Associate Member of the Academy), talks about Russian stealth technology in the following interview with the Russia/CIS Observer.

Until recently, all Russian developments in the field of stealth technologies were strictly classified. There weren't any reports made concerning research institutes dealing with these issues. The veil was raised somewhat last year when it was announced for the first time that the United Institute of High Temperatures of the Russian Academy of Sciences was carrying out research in the domain of reduced aircraft visibility. The information was rather sketchy. It was reported that the institute is specialized in creating materials with new properties, in particular with ferromagnetics and so-called artificial magnetics. It was pointed out that technologies developed by the institute were used in designing and manufacturing the Sukhoi Su-27M and Su-37 (Su-47). Director General Lagarjkov, who hasn't spoken about such matters in public before, told Sergey Sokut about work of his institute in greater detail.

How does Russia's way of making aircraft stealthy differ from the American technology?

- The Americans have two approaches. The first, and earliest one, was used for the F-117 and B-2. The low radar cross-section (RCS) was achieved through the shape of the aircraft and the use of radar-absorbing materials to cover the airframe. In this application, the principle of minimal level of visibility was a cornerstone - and other characteristics had to be sacrificed. For example, both aircraft are subsonic. Later the Americans tried another approach: modern radar absorbing materials are applied to F-16 and F-18, as well as to 5th generation F-22 and JSF combat aircraft, which have a traditional shape. The low level of visibility is achieved through different techniques, which Mikhail Pogosyan, director of Sukhoi, and I are going to reveal in the near future. We and the Americans are close to each other in this type of technology. Russia possesses the technology for upgrading in-service aircraft with modern stealth characteristics, and moreover, this technology is demanded by foreign operators of Russian aircraft. We, together with Sukhoi, have achieved world-class results in this area, which are confirmed by tests of real aircraft. We also can optimize the shape of the aircraft to lower the level of visibility, but I still wouldn't like to speak about the use of our techniques for 5th generation aircraft.

When would it be possible to speak about achieved results?

- Some discussion is possible today. The exact results of radar cross-section reduction will never be disclosed, neither here in Russia nor abroad. But sometime ago it was announced that the RCS of a MiG-21 fighter after its treatment by our institute is approximately 0.25 sq m. This corresponds to the characteristics of a cruise missile.

How far is it possible to go in reducing visibility of the 4th generation aircraft, and what additional improvements can be achieved in the next generation?

- My MiG-21 example demonstrates that the RCS of upgraded/modernized aircraft can be reduced 12-15 times. If we speak about new designed models, I wouldn't want to discuss the numbers publically.

In the press, information has been published about exotic technologies for providing low visibility, for example, plasma. How effective is it?

- We use plasma in solving the problems of RCS of an aircraft's nosecone. In general, plasma technologies are very useful at flight altitudes of more than 25 km. At low altitudes it is impossible to use them, because there is not enough power on board.

What is the share of stealth technologies in the total aircraft cost?

- If stringent, but reasonable requirements for visibility are implemented in the project from the very beginning, it won't be too large. I'd like to point out here that at my institue, we have carried out advanced work in fundamental research. I also want to stress here that we had to do this without governmental support - funding our research from out-of-budget sources during the last 10-15 years.

It is known that you cooperate closely with Sukhoi. What about the institute's work with other design bureaus?

- Recently, we have started cooperating intensively with the others as well.

If we compare achievements of different countries in the reduction of aircraft visibility, who would the leaders be? Obviously, the Americans would hit the top, wouldn't they?

- The Americans are no. 1 because of the application of stealth to a large volume of real products. But considering the understanding of the whole problem in general - and the potential - I don't think the Americans are better than we are. We are able to achieve, and already have achieved, the same - and even in some areas, we have had somewhat better results. Another plus for the Americans is their broader application of stealth. In particular, they are entering the world market with the stealthy aircraft. Similar developments are being made in Europe, but the level of these countries is not so high. The French are tackling this problem as well. They have very good research equipment - anechoic chambers, for example. Their Rafale fighter is advertised as an aircraft with a low radar cross-section.

 

[Mahakaya]

BAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAAHAHAH!!! - GROWLER'S BEING BASHED IN HIS OWN THREAD!!! - AND TO ALL MY INDIAN FRIENDS -IT JUST TAKES A SPARK TO IGNITE YOUR PASSION AGAINST THE NAYSAYERS!!

TADA TA DA DA - I AM LOVING IT!!!

LONG LIVE INDIA AND SINCE I AM I A PAKISTANI FORUM - LONG LIVE PAKISTAN TOO!

 

[Mahakaya]

Well i do not have to remind myself that i am talking to a mental case loser with a peanut size brain.
I am done replying to your useless post because i do know after all you are mentally retarded and you are gonna have hard time excepting reality.

WAT HAPPENED MAN!! No concrete proofs????

 

[Mahakaya]

No mention of your favorite "PATHOLOGICAL LIER" in your accusation this time..
Am devastated..



No..No.. The rocket was Pakistani.. Made by SUPARCO..

Is it that you are acting ostrich, or is google banned in your country too??..



So finally.. Your PAK-FA Analysis boils down to this... This SLUM DOG country cannot compete with China in space race..

Tujhe mirchi lagi toh mai kya karun..

BTW am not surprised at the term you used for my country.. Its totally Expected of you.. And i am sure the people who openly lecture us Indians to talk civil won't bat an eyelid over you calling us as SLUMDOG COUNTRY.. Aah.. I forgot.. Its your forum and you run the show.. So much for Civility and modesty.. Long live PAKISTAN

BABA FIRANGI KI JAI HO!!

AAP DHANYA HAIN BABA!!!