Muslims Want Reservation, Not Quran and Computers: Owaisi

[Bagha]

Reservation based on will serve as an incentive to convert to that religion.
Reservation is not useful to uplift any people. Why ? I'll start a thread on that.

 

[doppelganger]

Most sensibles in India agree that reservation should be for the needy, based on economic condition.

My question is, if a section, over generations gets reservations, and still is not uplifted, what needs to be done?

Is it the reservation that's not working?

Or is it the section it is meant for?

 

[Bagha]

Most sensibles in India agree that reservation should be for the needy, based on economic condition.

My question is, if a section, over generations gets reservations, and still is not uplifted, what needs to be done?

Is it the reservation that's not working?

Or is it the section it is meant for?

Just read my comment above. You are getting close to my point . Why this reservation of our is not working ?
And how should it be fixed ?

 

[doppelganger]

Just read my comment above. You are getting close to my point . Why this reservation of our is not working ?
And how should it be fixed ?

I got your point perfectly bro. I worked my *** off to get a medical seat because I am a maratha with zero reservation.

Please look at condition of Africa. Aid does not work. Period.

Make a person work and support him. Don't chew his food for him and put it in his mouth.

 

[topgun047]

Most sensibles in India agree that reservation should be for the needy, based on economic condition.

My question is, if a section, over generations gets reservations, and still is not uplifted, what needs to be done?

Is it the reservation that's not working?

Or is it the section it is meant for?

The reason reservations are not working is because a creamy layer has developed in reserved categories which takes away most of the opportunities provided to weaker sections
Even when they themselves are not backward in any quantifiable way.

I have some classmates who are utter,utter idiots but managed to get into medical college just because of reservations, even when their whole extended family has been doctors for last two generations.
People like them trample upon the real backward people to get further rich.

This creamy layer is shamelessly clinging on to reservations for purely selfish interests and screwing their fellow caste people who actually deserve reservation.

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

If that is so then let reservations within backward groups be also be applicaple only to financially poor persons.Just caste not enough,u would also need to be poor.No more freebie millionaires.

 

[timetravel]

Only base for reservation could be economic condition.

No discrimination on basis of religion.

All poor people deserve reservation equally. Muslims don't have any special rights.

 

[utraash]

Indian govt. should accept demand to avoid repetition of history.

None is against the bringing poor Muslim under the reservations in fact ppl are here voicing for the same by amending the reservations laws n enabling more ppl to reap the fruit of it ....
As for repetition of history, we would quell such voice brutally be it arising from Hindus Muslims or anyone for that matter.....

 

[doppelganger]

None is against the bringing poor Muslim under the reservations in fact ppl are here voicing for the same by amending the reservations laws n enabling more ppl to reap the fruit of it ....
As for repetition of history, we would quell such voice brutally be it arising from Hindus Muslims or anyone for that matter.....

My point still stands.

If a section of the poor refuses to get uplifted over generations.

Will you still continue reservations for them? When will you stop being unfair to those who are not poor but not rich either. Who need that seat as much as the poor do.

When do you say enough?

 

[utraash]

My point still stands.

If a section of the poor refuses to get uplifted over generations.

Will you still continue reservations for them? When will you stop being unfair to those who are not poor but not rich either. Who need that seat as much as the poor do.

When do you say enough?

Reservations was initially agreed to be applicable for 50yrs(if am not wrong) but now none dare to abolish it for political reason....
There is no problem with reservations if implemented with said changes for over a period of 30yrs ( or this timeline can be aligned with India's its own commitment to bring it masses out of poverty)...
A rich person does have many resources n option available with him but a person from deprived class doesn't get such luxury..... If you have money apart from iit you can get any college of your choice but if a poor with negligible resources doesn't get admission in gov quota seat or gov college would end up low skills worker n subsequently no up liftment for entire future generations if fair chances not provided further .... These things have chain reaction on future course of India so reservations is must .....

There is huge gaps in education system n environment provided in private n gov schools now a days .... I bet you to make your kids to study in state gov schools if you see no difference, I know none will do that unless financially unaffordable.....

 

[doppelganger]

your kids

WOAH! Easy tiger .....

 

[utraash]

WOAH! Easy tiger .....

Naah I um naat tiegar ... I um hooman .... Kaa samjhe babuaa .... Haha....

 

[Echo_419]

PUNE: All India Majlis-e-Ittehadul Muslimeen (AIMIM) president Asaduddin Owaisi Wednesday made an impassioned plea to the government to give reservation to the Muslim community to enable it join the national mainstream.

Addressing a massive rally in Pune, the Lok Sabha member from Hyderabad indirectly referred to Prime Minister Narendra Modi's statements offering Quran and laptops to Muslims during his election rallies in Pune before the 2014 Lok Sabha polls.

"Mr. Prime Minister, the Holy Quran we keep in our hearts, you can keep the computers. Just give us reservation and we shall make ourselves capable in all respects," Owaisi urged, amidst thunderous applause.

He said that in the past 15 years of the Congress-Nationalist Congress Party rule in Maharashtra, the issue of reservation was not resolved and called upon the present BJP Chief Minister Devendra Fadnavis to give quotas to Muslims based on social representation.

"Why can't there be Muslim doctors, IAS, IPS officers? The community's population in Maharashtra is 11 percent or more than 12 million, but 70 percent live below the poverty line. Not a single Muslim MP was elected from here in the past few elections," he said, as the crowds cheered him.

Owaisi said he was proud to be a Muslim, to wear a cap, sport a beard, and wear a 'sherwani' (a typical Muslim jacket) as the crowd chanted "Sher aaya, bhai Sher aaya" (Tiger has come...).

"We wear this ordinary 'sherwani', locally stitched, as we are a poor community, unlike you Mr. Prime Minister.

"We have no objections and wish you have many more such specially stitched jackets from London, but Muslim youth are in a pathetic condition, they need reservation," Owaisi said, in a reference to Modi's wardrobe which became a topic of discussion during US President Barack Obama's recent visit to India.

He said the Muslim community must be taken together in the BJP's slogan of "Sabka Saath, Sabka Vikas", and Modi should ensure equal development of the minority community.

Owaisi vowed to visit every corner of Maharashtra in favour of reservation.

Dismissing contentions that Muslims did not contribute to the Indian freedom struggle, he said many people from the community sacrificed their lives for the country's independence.

He said independent India's first home minister Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel was in favour of granting reservation to Muslims not on religious grounds, but on social grounds.

Owaisi posed a direct question to Modi, asking: "Mr. Prime Minister, how did your friend Amit Shah secure a clean chit in the Sohrabuddin case so quickly? Why innocent Muslim youths languish for years in jail?

"Try them in fast track courts. If there is no evidence against them, they must be released. If they are guilty, they must be punished."

Most roads leading to Kauserbaug Hall, which is actually an open venue for weddings and other functions, were jammed.

Huge crowds gathered on the roads, on building terraces, vehicles and tree tops, waiting to catch a glimpse of the firebrand leader at the 'Muslim Arakshan Parishad' organised by the Maharashtra and Mulnivasi Muslim Manch.

Earlier Wednesday, police had slapped Owaisi with stringent conditions for speaking at the rally with warnings of action if he made any inflammatory statements.

The rally, which was mired in uncertainties for the past couple of days following objections from the local Shiv Sena and the Pune Cantonment Board, saw police making over 300 preventive arrests of Shiv Sainiks who were planning to demonstrate at the venue.

Virtually gagging Owaisi, police had directed Owaisi to refrain from provocative utterances which could create religious, linguistic or communal tension and the media was barred from covering the event live from the venue.

Police estimated the crowd at around 2,000, even as the organisers claimed there were 25,000 people. Independent witnesses and media persons pegged the crowd at 13,000-15,000.

Muslims Want Reservation, Not Quran and Computers: Owaisi -The New Indian Express

What's wrong with Hard work

That should be how it is done. Giving reservation to Marathas but not giving to Muslims cannot be justified on any logical grounds

I have to agree on this one either remove the Reservations completely or let everyone share a pie of it (But keep it below 50%)

 

[mujhaidind]

@mujhaidind
your view on that

Reservation is a birth right of Muslims. 5% is nothing. We need 25% reservations.

 

[HINDUTVAWARRIOR]

Reservation is a birth right of Muslims. 5% is nothing. We need 25% reservations.

SHUT UP REMEMBER GUJARAT?ONLY HINDUs BRAHMINS DESERVE RESERVATION !