Muslim kids denied Admission in Delhi

[JayAtl]

But you are a secular state, right? Every citizen enjoys same rights, no religious consideration/discrimination.

Anyways this report does not clear anything. The only definite point it has raised is allocation of the seats to Muslims according to their percentage in total population, which according to same report is 15% but admissions given to them were less than 0.5%.

so article is not well defined and the only thing you got is .05% admissions are given while 15% is set aside. do you know if that's because 0.5% are only applying for it? what does being secular have to do with what you yourself have said is an ill defined article?

why are you guys so hell bent on going after some religious angle? what do you think is going to happen? Muslims in India would want to move to Pakistan? … or is that what you would like to happen? I don't get the constant angle some you Pakistanis post every week .

 

[Emmie]

as u clearly mentioned that we are a secular state so admissions are not given on religious lines. no matter what is the percentage of a particular community in population the admissions are not given acc to it. in delhi the admission criteria for kinder garden school is very tough & complicated, kids as well as their parents have to sit in interviews & then final list is released. don't give it a religious angle, btw muslims in india are known as a community who focuses on education less then other communities. so possibility is that they had given least number of app forms.

P.S- muslims are 13% & not 15% of total pop in india.

Bro may be you get my point by reading this. I don't know about the policy of kindergarten admission.. For 15%, I referred to the figure mentioned by OP, prolly writer is referring to percentage in Delhi.

The Hindu : News / National : Elders clash over Muslim admissions to school
The Hindu : News / National : In Delhi's nursery classes, Muslim children are a rarity

 

[harpoon]

As far as I know, Pvt Schools are 'donation' oriented. If you have the money, your kids will get admission..religion doesn't matter. If you don't have it, there is always Govt schools.

 

[Emmie]

so article is not well defined and the only thing you got is .05% admissions are given while 15% is set aside. do you know if that's because 0.5% are only applying for it? what does being secular have to do with what you yourself have said is an ill defined article?

why are you guys so hell bent on going after some religious angle? what do you think is going to happen? Muslims in India would want to move to Pakistan? … or is that what you would like to happen? I don't get the constant angle some you Pakistanis post every week .

Facepalm!. Don't tell me you couldn't pick sarcasm! And please don't derail the thread, make your point according to the article.

Find out the answer to 0.5% in the article of The Hindu, post 17.

 

[punjabimunda32]

Bro may be you get my point by reading this. I don't know about the policy of kindergarten admission.. For 15%, I referred to the figure mentioned by OP, prolly writer is referring to percentage in Delhi.

The Hindu : News / National : Elders clash over Muslim admissions to school
The Hindu : News / National : In Delhi's nursery classes, Muslim children are a rarity

dude in india high school education is now private. u dont have the money. no admission for u. if u have the amount, ur the first one to get in. now dont come up with bs like change the system and stuff. sorry nothing is changing muslims can go to govt schools. pvt schools are imp as they r helping in raising the quality of education of country which govt schools cant.

 

[harpoon]

dude in india high school education is now private. u dont have the money. no admission for u. if u have the amount, ur the first one to get in. now dont come up with bs like change the system and stuff. sorry nothing is changing muslims can go to govt schools. pvt schools are imp as they r helping in raising the quality of education of country which govt schools cant.

Or they can start their own schools, under some minority provisions of the constitution.

 

[punjabimunda32]

Or they can start their own schools, under some minority provisions of the constitution.

muslims already have schools of their own, whose stopping them from opening up their own schools.

 

[harpoon]

muslims already have schools of their own, whose stopping them from opening up their own schools.

Its very common in my place, but just giving a suggestion that if Delhi hasn't one.

 

[alphamale]

Bro may be you get my point by reading this. I don't know about the policy of kindergarten admission.. For 15%, I referred to the figure mentioned by OP, prolly writer is referring to percentage in Delhi.

The Hindu : News / National : Elders clash over Muslim admissions to school
The Hindu : News / National : In Delhi's nursery classes, Muslim children are a rarity

u have posted 2 links, one link talk abt some politician raising issue in parliament. i don't think we need to talk abt it as political parties only hunt for vote banks they do not care abt general ppl as such. so we are not talking politics here.

in 2nd link it is clearly stated that no. of app forms submitted by Muslims were less hence less no. of Muslim kids got admission. it has nothing to do with discrimination. in some schools there is a lottery system which is conducted openly in front of all, so no one can say that there was any kind of discrimination.

 

[JayAtl]

Facepalm!. Don't tell me you couldn't pick sarcasm! And please don't derail the thread, make your point according to the article.

Find out the answer to 0.5% in the article of The Hindu, post 17.

what sarcasm lol - and the article was in urdu. I was going by what you posted. but I will read the hindu link now.

 

[Roybot]

Taking cognizance of the report published by The Hindu on Monday indicating low Muslim representation in this year's admission to nursery classes in Delhi's private schools, the National Commission for Minorities has said that it will urgently look into the matter and take action.

National Commission for Minorities chairman Wajahat Habibullah said: “We have got a copy of the letter submitted to Delhi Chief Minister Sheila Dikshit on the issue and we will examine the matter. It appears as per the report that the minorities are not receiving the benefit of the various policies put in place for their welfare. It is a serious allegation and needs to be scrutinised.”

The matter was raised in the Rajya Sabha during the day by Lok Janshakti Party leader Ram Vilas Paswan.

Ms. Dikshit, however, shot down the allegation saying that neither government schools nor prominent private schools have ever refused admission to Muslims.

“On reading the report in The Hindu, I asked my office if they had received any letter and was told that one had come in the morning.”

“I have collected all the information and there is nothing like what has been alleged. What they [Lok Janshakti Party] have said are things which are not actually true.''

Claiming that reputed schools like St. Mary's, Presentation Convent and St. Francis have never refused admission to minorities, Ms. Dikshit said: “We have got 16 per cent of the seats filled with Muslim students. Plus, we have students studying in madrassas and they are never refused admission in any of the government schools.”

She, however, pointed out that schools follow the neighbourhood criteria in granting admissions and added: “I will be coming out with a more detailed reply on the entire issue on Tuesday.”

The Hindu : News / National : Minorities panel to examine nursery admission anomaly

School managements uniformly refute the charge of bias. The principal of one school, which admitted no Muslim child, said, “The problem arises because almost all the parents in the Capital want their children to go to a few select popular private schools which offer only limited seats. Neither the school management nor the existing point system can be blamed for this.”

The former Central Board of Secondary Education chairman Ashok Ganguly, who introduced the points system in 2006, disagrees that the points system is flawed. He told The Hindu: “The point system was introduced to bring in a heterogeneous classroom and promote a transparent system for admitting students to school. To a very large extent the schools have succeeded in doing that. This system does not allow schools to discriminate on the basis of caste, creed or religion.”

They have a point system, where you get poinst for proximity tot eh school, marks for parents' qualification, alumni, and sibling, etc., .”. Which applies to everyone, not just Muslim kids. Even private schools here in Australia have similar point system!

Issue seems blown out of proportion

 

[punjabimunda32]

i dont understand. worldwide muslims have the lowest enrolement rate in high schools. leaving a few developed muslim contries,their admission rate in university and higher studies is nothing but a joke as compared to other communities. why blaming it on india? india builds atleast 30 new unis everyyear but muslims seems to jumping seeing their stagerring rise in population. that population is not getting educated but it doesnt bother them.

 

[Emmie]

dude in india high school education is now private. u dont have the money. no admission for u. if u have the amount, ur the first one to get in. now dont come up with bs like change the system and stuff. sorry nothing is changing muslims can go to govt schools. pvt schools are imp as they r helping in raising the quality of education of country which govt schools cant.

But I thought we were talking Kindergarten and not high schools!

Report clearly mentions admissions to Kindergarten and that too private - now, only wealthy parents can afford expensive schools like wealthy Muslims (parents) who applied for the admission.Quite prejudice when you say Muslims can go to government schools and private schools are important because they help improve quality of educations which government schools fail to do, I am sure you wanted to say something else.

what sarcasm lol - and the article was in urdu. I was going by what you posted. but I will read the hindu link now.

Lol.... And who says that sarcasm had to do with the article? Read that particular post of mine, don't miss the quoted part...

 

[punjabimunda32]

But I thought we were talking Kindergarten and not high schools!

Report clearly mentions admissions to Kindergarten and that too private - now, only wealthy parents can afford expensive schools like wealthy Muslims (parents) who applied for the admission.Quite prejudice when you say Muslims can go to government schools and private schools are important because they help improve quality of educations which government schools fail to do, I am sure you wanted to say something else.

dude in india schools are from kindergarten to 12th. no matter which class u want admission u need money. no one goes to govt schools. millions of private schools have come up everywhere and i support it as they truly are world class school with top facilities.

 

[harpoon]

This is like the same drama like the less number of Muslims in Army, less number of Muslims in Civil Service etc...Are Bhai, if a Muslim doesn't want to join the army or write exam who is GoI to force them.