You do realize that I was kidding !
But if you really want to know my opinion about this & I know that you & @Oscar are going to hate me for this but here goes :
The reason why MQM is singled out is indeed because of the Muhajir thing because they've played that 'hallowed be us - the Creators of Pakistan' whilst 'you lot were sitting on your fat arses whilst we died in '47' at every single opportunity that has presented itself & because a disproportionate number of people belonging to the Urdu Speakers do indeed support these Parties !
A parallel between that & nothing else can be drawn here in Pakistan !
Whom do the Punjabis have - PML N ? Do you honestly think that ? No one gives a foOk about PML N & most certainly no one would be willing to romanticize the notion of the plight of the Eastern Punjabis at the time of the Partition & claim superiority over all others in perpetuity....heck not even a single Party has used that slogan or even an individual has thought about that !
People, here in Punjab, vote for PML N not because its a Punjabi Nationalist Party or a Party that is forwarding the interests of the Punjabis but because they deliver....they are the only Party in Pakistan that delivers even if they foOk up most of the time....they still accomplish perhaps 2 out of 10 things they set out to do unlike any other option !
Nawaz Sharif isn't hallowed as some savior or some messianic figure representing Punjabis in a cruel & unforgiving world !
No one would give a foOK about him or his Party the moment a better option presents itself; in fact if the rigging wasn't there PTI would've taken a whole chunk out of their votes this time around & if they perform in these coming 5 years & electronic voting does come to pass - they most certainly would & no one would eulogize PML N & sing tales of its praise of how the Great Lion of Raiwand himself steered the ship - the Punjabi ship - out of such unforgiving odds for the betterment of the Punjabis !
Our Hero...our Savior - the Lion with a Tindd !
No one gives a foOk !
Similarly in KPK - they don't really give two hoots about Bacha Khan's Party, about Maulana Diesel or about any of them - If they perform....they perform...if not then they get booted !
In Baluchistan - No one really gives a foOk about anyone so theres little point talking about that !
But in Sindh - you lot are divided between fanatic support for PPP from the Sindhis & MQM from the Urdu Speakers where a mere utterance of the words of their respective Leaders are as if the words have been uttered by the Almighty himself which must be justified & defended come what may !
Thats the perspective of the reason why people react so strongly when Altaf Bhai sprouts such BS - In every other speech of his the poor, victimized Urdu Speaker who fought for & built Pakistan whilst the rest of us were sitting on our fat arses doing nothing, is mentioned & repeatedly so !
That coupled with threats of creating a separate Province for these Champions of Pakistan....these poor...poor victims of other, jealous & undeserving Pakistanis that the rest of us are leaves a further bad taste to the conversation !
Lastly when you add the threat of a Separate Country altogether - One of many....it makes for a extremely flammable mixture !
Naturally then such shameful things like asking the Muhajir to pack up & leave & to go back to India are mentioned by people with a vested interest to stoke this fire even more !
Naturally then such fillllthy divisions between - Local & Immigrant - is made & perpetuated over & over again !
Naturally if this happens to have been happening for over 2-3 decades it leaves an indelible mark on popular psyche; an unfortunate imprint that sees the repeat of the caustic discussion of above again & again & again !
P.S When Bacha Khan & other Nationalist filllth used to say similar things in the '50s & the '60s long before Altaf was even born - They were treated much worse with long imprisonments but because we didn't have a media back then....none of it got the coverage that this did or this does because right now none of those Nationalists are saying any of these things while Altaf Bhai continues on like a broken recorder at every junction !
As far as prosecuting Mushy is concerned - Where have I said anything otherwise ? I believe that a Turkish Style process should've been in place where everyone was prosecuted & put behind bars - This is most probably a Political Case nothing more !
What irks me is not that its a Political Case & not even that Altaf uttered the things that he did for you are correct that Politicians have uttered worse; what irks me is that how there are those from within the Urdu Speaking Community who'd even defend this & nod their heads in agreement with whatever the Bhai is saying - You can find a handful of them on this very forum !
No one from Punjab even in their wildest dreams mentioned Noora being toppled & sent packing because a Muhajir (Musharaf) just didn't want to move on from the baggage of the Partition or because he had something against a Punjabi because that would be ludicrous & even an illiterate Punjabi would chuckle if you were to mention that or any of those other ethnic colorful BS but there are enough people from the Urdu Speaking Community who'd agree to a similarly ludicrous thing - Thats the thing that creates this alienation & continues to widen the gulf !
Not all Urdu Speakers maybe supporters of the MQM but a huge chunk most certainly is & that chunk is loud enough to create this perception that MQM speaks for the Urdu Speaking Community & so when it speaks & it speaks in these tones with this language & the many similar nuggets from the past - This only reinforces that negative image which gets extrapolate to the whole of the Urdu Speaking Community !
That being said... Punjab has not faced discrimination to raise that voice. Its a natural reaction of the discriminated party to raise its voice on whatever issue it wishes to use as its pillar. This phenomenon is not confined to Pakistan.. it was seen in the Balkans as well in the early days.
On a less serious note.. Altaf Bhai is speaking again... I like his formula.. He says make Sindh-2 for non-Sindhi Speaking Sindhis.. I agree..I want to take this further.. Defence to be made Sindh-111 , Gulshan Sindh-555. I want to make Punjab 2 in Lahore, Raiwind as Punjab 420 and Bahria town as Punjab 10. Peshawar is KPK-5.. and so on. So from now on you are 2 number, I am 111 .. and others may take numbers as we wish. Pakistan is to be a numberi country.
. Well then you said the keyword there , yes with explanations , but the thing nonetheless is " MQM is singled out because of overwhelming support of Muhajirs " . Now , I am surprised further with the rationalization of the things and the cultural stereotypes , you have built from . The thought pattern of " creators of Pakistan " is limited to a very tinny number of Urdu speakers - despite knowing about it , there's not a single instance in my life where I would have heard from anybody I have interacted with . Indeed the reality is , a disproportionate number ( if not almost all to exaggerate it beyond all limits ) of people living in Karachi , Hyderabad and other cities ( urban Sindh ) , most of them Urdu speakers but astonishingly a large number of other ethnicity/race support and vote for MQM , they gather just too much support from the local populace sure , they can bring the people to the streets , they have an impressive record in elections over the years even in those held under the army ( electoral fraud can only get you that far ) - including the seats they won in Gilgit-Baltistan and their work was visible at the time - Mustafa Kamal was a Mayor . Accept it or not , it wouldn't again make no difference to the reality on ground . How and Why this happens , there is no one answer , the best possible approach lies in understanding the history of urban part of this province - forced demographic changes , quota system , domiciles , operations , massacres have all contributed to their success with a certain part of population and on the whole with liberals/seculars - learn a little about it . Ignorance of the facts is no excuse and one can only get so far without studying history . There is the issue of " son of soil " thing and a real sense of deprivation and unequal treatment within Muhajirs , that is a reason too . The cause is hidden but the result is well known again . Wasn't it you who said people do not go haywire suddenly ? Why create monsters where none exists and try to fight them , I always ask !
is that true ?
