Mughals/ Other Muslim Rulers slashed out of Indian history textbooks

[Pakistani E]

Na... There is no need to teach the history of Biriyani, there are a lot of other things to learn.

Your comment is non sense.

Yeah...just as nonsense as Indians telling Pakistanis to not claim Biryani as Pakistani food right?

 

[El Sidd]

Yeah...just as nonsense as Indians telling Pakistanis to not claim Biryani as Pakistani food right?

Wait for the Biryani is a Dravidian food theorists please

 

[Pakistani E]

Wait for the Biryani is a Dravidian food theorists please

I've got the ball rolling. Now we wait..

 

[El Sidd]

I've got the ball rolling. Now we wait..

Let me help with that.

Aurangabad Maharashtra has a famous Biryani chain.

The town is named after Aurangzeb.

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

There is nothing like "Indian" history books. Each state frames its own syllabus based on its own history and Indian history in general. This news is applicable only to Maharastra state syllabus where Mughals, Cholas, Vijayanagars empire etc have been condensed to a single chapter instead of earlier two.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

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The Maharashtra education board of India has reduced the Mughal emperors’ reign to just three lines in history textbooks.

The board has revised history textbooks for classes VII and IX, removing almost all traces of the rule of the Mughals and the monuments they built, instead focusing on the Maratha empire founded by Shivaji, The Wire reported.

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Till last year, students were taught that Akbar was a liberal and tolerant administrator and now they will be taught that he “tried to bring India under a central authority” and faced opposition from the likes of Pratap.

Shivaji, who was in the earlier textbook referred to as people’s king, will now be mentioned as an “ideal ruler”. Shivaji’s role in medieval history, and that of his family and the Maratha generals, has been expanded upon.

The new edition for class VII history book has also eliminated Muslim rulers in the country before the Mughal period, including Razia Sultana and Muhammad bin Tughlaq.

There is also no trace of the rupaya – first introduced as currency by Afghan invaders. The revised textbook for class IX, on the other hand, includes the Bofors scam and the Emergency of 1975-1977, The Wirefurther reported.

There’s no mention of Razia Sultana who was the first woman to rule Delhi and the omission of Sher Shah Suri who had forced Humayun to flee from India has been slashed off as well.

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A member of the history subject committees for old and revised textbooks claimed that the need to revise the syllabus was felt in order to update history with modern events. According to Mumbai Mirror, Shinde said that“[the space given to] Mughal history has been reduced. Modern history needs to be incorporated.”

The revision of the syllabus was shared at a meeting held by a think tank promoted by the RSS thus the changes come to surface.

Raising objections about the cover of the new medieval history textbook for class VII, Kishore Darak, an independent researcher in curriculum and textbooks, told Mumbai Mirror that the cover was problematic for it displays saffron flags all over the map of the country, hence creating an faux image that the “Hindu samrajya existed in India during that period.”

“This is factually incorrect and reeks of a political agenda,” Darak said.

“We have looked at history from a Maharashtra-centric point of view. Even if it is the Delhi Sultanate or the Mughal rule and the medieval history of India, we have kept Maharashtra at the centre. It is a natural course as we are from Maharashtra.What’s wrong in that? In fact the central board books have very little about our state,” chairman of the history subject committee said justifying the move.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/1476523/mughals-slashed-indian-history-textbooks/

As anti-indian as I am, the above is got nothing to do with us. They can do what they like. It's their race, culture, nation, heritage and history. Not ours. They can set their narrative and destiny how they like. The above is as relevant to us as to what the Congolese and Gambians do with their culture and heritage. From a Pakistani POV the above is actually great because it completely dispells the lies and myths that we have any connections with india or indians whatsoever. The diffeterces between Pakistanis and indians are far too wide and unbridgeable already. This is set to grow in the coming years and decades.

 

[Baybars Han]

You can't change history. My great ancestors Emir Timur and the Babur's have ruled India like many other parts of the world.

I bet the Indians are proud the english ruled them, its a badge of honour for them.

Mughals only ruled for 200 years, out of 7000 years of Indian history.


Yes Mughals made pyramids with the skulls of our ancestors enroute to India.

And the british killed millions of you. Yet you speak there language everyday in your country and use their laws and also worship them?

 

[Nexus]

You can't change history. My great ancestors Emir Timur and the Babur's have ruled India like many other parts of the world.

I bet the Indians are proud the english ruled them, its a badge of honour for them.



And the british killed millions of you. Yet you speak there language everyday in your country and use their laws and also worship them?

Says a turkified Antolian(Greeko-Armenian convert).

We are not named after invaders like ypur country, we dont claim bastard origin from central asians loke you. What is your history ? beside Being little bitch of Central Asian turks and Greeks for 1000s of years?

talk only when you stop worshipping invadors you killed you and raped you and start taking pride in your Greek or Armenoan Ancestors.

 

[Papa Dragon]

Well, these should be some of the changes in our History Textbooks if they are to be updated
First, history education should not be about dates and people. It should be about factors that brought us to the present - presented in an non-judgmental way. History should not be looked just from the lenses of the present, neither it should be looked merely from the lenses of the rulers of the different periods.

Second, it should not overemphasize on wars, invasions, empires and kings. Majority of our past was spent in non-war times. And we were among the least invaded civilizations. Rather than just negativity should place sufficient emphasis on the positive aspects that the common people have achieved - in arts, sciences, trade, agricultural methods, religion, social systems, political organizations, industries, games, mathematics etc.

Third, it should give a balanced weight on different time periods. Mughals and English ruled for about 800 years, majority of our history text books emphasized on this period. However, if you look at the facts - the time between Babur’s first arrival in Panipat [1526] and the time Britain left India [1947] have only a 421 year gap - well less than 10% of known history of India. Leave alone the fact that Babur didn’t immediately set up an empire in India and that there was a sizable gap between Mughal rule and the British rule.

In short, the Mughal+English period is an important but a relatively small portion of Indian history. However, these 4 centuries [1550s-1940s] get more than half of coverage in most classrooms and even in these 4 centuries we miss anything that doesn’t go with the flow [Marathas, for instance]. We should realign with the right weight.

Fourth, it should provide sufficient coverage of all regions of India. We hear very little about the Northeast or the central India.

Fifth, we have to cover the geography as it relates to history. India’s cultural perimeters are defined by its geography. Its history owes a lot to both its mountains and rivers. Rise and fall of civilizations have a lot to do with climatic changes - caused both by humans and nature. For instance, the Indus Valley Civilization’s collapse was nothing unique - almost all bronze age cultures of that time collapsed both with climatic shifts and disruptions to the tin trade routes. Late Bronze Age collapse

Sixth, when we cover the independence movement of India, we don’t give students the idea that the Congress of its time was not mostly a party, but an annual conference - of diverse leaders from various walks of life. They had different goals and ideologies who came together in passing resolutions to provide voice to the Indians.

Effectively, Congress movement was a nation with multiple parties within. Not only we don’t cover many of these sub-parties, but we also don’t treat the movement’s actions with sufficient criticism. The failures of the Khilafat and Quit Indian Movement are not sufficiently covered. And the Congress party that ruled India after 1947, made sure a third of all school history books is just from about cherrypicked 40 years of Indian history with no room for struggles that came before or after.

Finally and most importantly, history is about connections and not mere dots. It should be presented as a web of connections, with analysis. When we cover an event, its context in the overall world of the time and also the preceding/succeeding events should be given. For instance, the Gupta era’s fall has to be placed in the context of the overall fall of major empires of the time - Rome, Sassanid etc. They were all attacked by the Hun people during the Migration period.

 

[Pakistani E]

Let me help with that.

Aurangabad Maharashtra has a famous Biryani chain.

The town is named after Aurangzeb.

Nonsense, look at the word for rice in Sanskrit and Hindi. Looks pretty much the same:
बिरयानी तण्डुल

This is actually proving that Biryani is indigenous to North India because of Out of India theory. since Sanskrit is older than the Mughals. These people then spread Biryani to Persia, Afghanistan, Central Asia, to the ancestors of Aurangzeb who simply adopted it from them. Then at a later date, he again discovered it while invading India.

To further prove my point, if you look at the word "Biryani" in Tamil for example, which is a Dravidian language, it is not at all similar to the original Sanskrit word for rice:

பிரியாணி

 

[Chhatrapati]

Yeah...just as nonsense as Indians telling Pakistanis to not claim Biryani as Pakistani food right?

Did I say that? I'm not responsible for somebody else's comments.

And I speak for myself.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

@AUz

India attempts to wipe out the Muslim influence in the subcontinent.

 

[Pakistani E]

Did I say that? I'm not responsible for somebody else's comments.

And I speak for myself.

Look, no matter how hard you try, you cannot shake off the yoke of the foreign invader. Not only are you speaking their languages, you are also eating the food they imposed on you. Just learn to accept this and move on.

 

[GiannKall]

Taj Mahal, the most visited monument in India was built by the Mughals

 

[Pakistani E]

My great ancestors Emir Timur and the Babur's h

Are you sure distant cousins and not ancestors? I don't think Babur's descendants went towards Turkey.