maryam nawaz taunts Pakistan after new zealand cricket withdrawal.

[Chak Bamu]

Too class arrangements were made. High level security was provided. Everything that could be done was done.

They decided to leave and put Pakistan in bad light.

Why did she not stand with Pakistan?
This is clearly what Indian are saying, Pakistan is not safe and she seconded that.

Was Pakistan government/state/ security apparatus any part of it was responsible for this?

All the high level security arrangements came to nothing in the end, (most likely) because of a leaked specific threat advisory - and yet here you are pinning the blame on someone who called out the fiasco. We in Punjab are used to such demonstration of ineptitude over the last 3 years, but it is on a royal level when it hits Pakistan internationally. But it is all PML-N's fault, even though they successfully restarted international cricket & PSL in their tenure even when terrorism was at a much higher level. Do you ever wonder about what you write? How can you accuse anyone from PML-N to be anti-state when they are in fact criticizing the government's incompetence? Is it because you imagine that PTI is state of Pakistan?

BTW, what are Indians saying & how is the specific tweet in question inspired by Indians?

This brings up a question though: If Indians be right (and occasionally they might be) then is it OK to contradict them just because they are Indians?

 

[TheDarkKnight]

So you say that the language is crude. You are wrong. It is beyond vile. So even if it be crude, why defend it?

I never defended the language. It is vile as well - fine. But why are you abusing innocents here - his family.
In Pakistan we have this social problem of taking revenge from the women of a criminal’s family - some body does something and next we know the innocent sister of that criminal is harrased or assaulted to settle scores. Similarly in this case the females of perpetrator has been abused which is uncalled for.

Does this makes sense now?

 

[Chak Bamu]

We know where your problem lies. I do not see you coming out defending when such language is used for others.

Don't mingle your words.

I do not read every post on this forum. I just looked at the thread title & I decided to call it out. PDF is a safe haven for PTI trolls, BTW. I regularly rebuke people who abuse IK's wife. Being abusive towards women shows one's values.

 

[RescueRanger]

Being abusive towards women shows one's values.

I have to agree with this part, we must respect women regardless our political alignment or opinions of said person's political affiliation, conduct etc.

 

[Chak Bamu]

I never defended the language. It is vile as well - fine. But why are you abusing innocents here - his family.
In Pakistan we have this social problem of taking revenge from the women of a criminal’s family - some body does something and next we know the innocent sister of that criminal is harrased or assaulted to settle scores. Similarly in this case the females of perpetrator has been abused which is uncalled for.

Does this makes sense now?

Ditto.... when a woman is abused, it is because by soiling her honor the cretin is actually imagining that he is avenging something. That is exactly why I called his language out. Now despite your denials, you really are defending his 'right' to use such vile language. Do you think you would have conceded that his language is vile had I not put it in context?

I will mince no words - he used vile language because he has a vile background & he proudly shows it.

I have to agree with this part, we must respect women regardless our political alignment or opinions of said person's political affiliation, conduct etc.

Thank you sir. We can debate on merits, concede nothing to the opponent, and yet be respectful doing it. The point of having a moderated forum is to weed out vile stuff.

 

[Patriot forever]

Ditto.... when a woman is abused, it is because by soiling her honor the cretin is actually imagining that he is avenging something. That is exactly why I called his language out. Now despite your denials, you really are defending his 'right' to use such vile language. Do you think you would have conceded that his language is vile had I not put it in context?

I will mince no words - he used vile language because he has a vile background & he proudly shows it.

Are you sure sir you were just against the language and not defending what she said?

 

[koolio]

No respect from me this Calibiri drama queen has done more damage to the reputation of Pakistan than anyone else, this mental women will go to any extremes to get in power.

 

[TheDarkKnight]

Were you just born today? Do you not know what PTI was upto & about 2013-2018?
OK, let me ask you if you remember the 2014 dharna? What was it about? What were its effects? Who supported it? What message did it send to the world? What abuse was hurled during that time? You are not going to lecture me about social media teams because I know who did what.

I agree PTI is guilty of using vile methods for political purposes, but they are accused of doing the same thing that PMLN has been doing for decades in one way or another. Anyway this is irrelevant to the discussion.

Ditto.... when a woman is abused, it is because by soiling her honor the cretin is actually imagining that he is avenging something. That is exactly why I called his language out. Now despite your denials, you really are defending his 'right' to use such vile language. Do you think you would have conceded that his language is vile had I not put it in context?

I will mince no words - he used vile language because he has a vile background & he proudly shows it.

oh my God- are you just missing the whole point here again - maybe on purpose. Just because someone abused Maryam doesn’t mean their entire family background stands guilty of the vile profession of prostitution. I ask again - why drag his family when you don’t even know that person? Your words are actually worse than what he used for Maryam - it harms other innocent people (the mother and sisters of the guilty person). Do you understand now? The mother and sister of that poster have nothing to do with this - nothing. And the logic you used for “hera mandi” actually goes against you as well if you can actually read your own post properly.

Only the poster is guilty - and as I said your way of conversing shows the same misogynistic and backward mentality pravalent in our society. Some one does a crime (in this case abused Maryam) then repercussions show up for the entire family especially the females.

 

[Patriot forever]

No respect from me this Calibiri drama queen has done more damage to the reputation of Pakistan than anyone else, this mental women will go to any extremes to get in power.

This is exactly what they are. Lust for power greed for money. They will go against their own blood let alone country.

A woman should be replied in the language the women uses for others. Period.

 

[Dalit]

How can I take someone seriously when they can not even spell Nawaz right?

I just had to show you the mirror, but reflection (pun intended) is not your thing.

What do you make of Nawaz Sharif hiding in the UK and meeting with an Afghan spy chief who calls all Pakistanis Punjabis and a brothel house?

 

[Steppe Wolff]

No respect from me this Calibiri drama queen has done more damage to the reputation of Pakistan than anyone else, this mental women will go to any extremes to get in power.

Lust for power has made her mentally deranged.

 

[Maula Jatt]

"آچھا بھلا نیوزی لینڈ کی ٹیم لعنتیں لینے کیلیے تیار ھو رھی تھی مریم نے تمام لعنتیں سمٹنے کیلیے لعنتوں کا رخ اپنی طرف موڑ لیا"

@Chak Bamu , oh god you cultish worshipers are weird ah
He is saying that all the lanats were going to NZ team but MN attracted them towards her with her tweet

This was in response to that "Kundi na kharka Soniya Sidha andar aa"- Sonya is equivalent to lanat
if I said it in an isolated post, I get it it, it would have meant something else but this was not what it meant, it as in response to @Imran Khan post

You are just looking to get butt hurt over slightest of criticism and imagining double meaning- so you should probably apologize

So 4 pages on this thread, 2 of em are about crude language
So I decided to post an explanation on what I meant

No response but now it seems you're running with what you originally thaught it meant and now can't quit with that narrative

If you think it's bs, cool

respond and call out how it bs, if you can't atleast quit making up a lie and apologize for falsely accusing me of something I never meant to say and you decided to take it out of context, also for bringing my family into this

 

[Path-Finder]

What do you make of Nawaz Sharif hiding in the UK and meeting with an Afghan spy chief who calls all Pakistanis Punjabis and a brothel house?

very very very valid point? @Chak Bamu what say you on this league chawal from lordship mian nawaj?

 

[M. Sarmad]

Your education never taught you to see anything other than black & white, ones & zeroes?

In a few days when dust settles, you would be trying to find ways to divert the blame. This is most likely incompetence, as we have come to expect.

Hanlon's razor applies here, as it does to much else since last 5 years.

A blind supporter of convicted criminals/corrupt mafia talking about 'education' ?!! Interesting

I hope you realize that the alleged Incompetence of those whom you dislike does not absolve your criminal godfathers of their crimes

 

[Imran Khan]

I have to agree with this part, we must respect women regardless our political alignment or opinions of said person's political affiliation, conduct etc.

چڑیل کی بھی ریسپیکٹ کرنی ہو گی اب ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟