Martyrdom of Lt. Gen. Qasem Soleimani (2nd Anniv)

[Hack-Hook]

didn’t you Iranians over throw your own dictator Shah of Iran and I didn’t see the Syrians joining shah to lob barrel bombs on your Qom ?

And why have they built a statue which is haram in Islam. Many questions will be responded by propaganda buLLShit

Well the key difference was that we did it ourselves in Syria some neighbouring countries made a coalition of more than 90 countries to do that

 

[mike2000 is back]

Absolutely ……all the little babies he barrelled bombed and all the women his sectarian terrorists raped were takfiris. I have no doubt your sectarian side has many many many more generals like this.

Disgusting and repulsive mentality.
was the name ISIS ever mentioned while the innocent people were demonstrating for the democracy and the removal of Asad??

Well, that's life. To many Syrians who opposed the Assad Dynasty, he was one of the worse terrorist who terrorised them and their family with his militias and proxies, to his allies and country he was a hero . So one man's Hero is another's terrorist. Such is life.

 

[Maula Jatt]

He shouldn't have died like he died, it was superpowers bullying
He was Iranian version of Hameed Gul, I guess
So opinions will be divided but I can never personally call proxy people "good" people "hero" - that's just me
But I believe he was fighting ISIS by creating his own terrorist groups who also committed evil against people
Not to the level of ISIS- as they're on a league of their own
But enough to get the distinction of a terrorist group

So just like Afghans might hate asad durrani, Hamid Gul type generals
But if they died like how Suleimani did we'll be devastated
So one man's terrorist is another man's hero- he was a shady character for sure like everyother proxy general that ever existed
But for his nation he'll be a hero, people who suffered will call him evil, nuetrals won't like him cause proxy people are always disliked
But since he died the way he did - people against American hegemon will ignore his record and cheer him on - not for him personally but for Thier dislike of US hegemony

 

[kingQamaR]

Well the key difference was that we did it ourselves in Syria some neighbouring countries made a coalition of more than 90 countries to do that

no, Russians indiscriminate use of its air campaign destroyed the whole Syrian country and its population from continuing there legitimate struggle . so I did not see the neighbouring countries sending there help f16s , euro fighters, f15s to aid the opposition because if they did the outcome would have been different.

 

[Bahram Esfandiari]

Qasem Soleimani was always was seeking Martyrdom and he finally achieved it. Thank God he did not have to grow old sick and frail like most cowards do!

 

[Bratva]

Pakistanis have to taste living under ISIS. I wish wholeheartedly they go through the same disaster that poor Syrians went.

People of Syria no matter Sunni or Shia, had to leave their homes to other countries just to escape the terrorist rule. I wish one day someone enters your homes and asks for your sisters and mothers beheading your father in the process and then allows you watch your mother and sisters getting raped dear Pakistanis.

That's the moment that you would beg for Appearance of an other Soleimani.

I recall the day some Wahabi Elements called majority of Sunnis in Syria the kafirs for refusing their barbaric version of life.

Who are you to wish something upon Pakistan? The country where anyone can come and assassinate your generals, scientists and infrastructure like they are in a park for a walk and talk big. Pakistan has been enduring far worst and dealt with it own its own so far. We have been at war since 2004. Fighting simultaneously at 2 locations all own its own without using disposable proxies from Afghanistan and Pakistan

Coming back to proxy use, Who gave Sulemani the right to hire recruits from Pakistan and make them fight in Syria? Did we ever recruit any Iranis to fight Pakistani wars? This shows he was the coward who couldnt fight his own wars and had to rely on Lebanese and Iraqis,Afghanis and Paksitani Shias to fight his own war in Syria

Sulemani was a destabilizing factor in the region . His use of Lebanese proxies, Afghanies, Pakistanis in syria war created further instability not only in syria but once those proxies returned back to their respective countries. It was like a disaster waiting to happen. A fuse about to be lit where these proxies would have started destabilizing their own countries out of their own will or own Iran Behalf

Ever since Soleimani death, Iran is on defensive, The aggressive posture of Soleimani and IRGC has been tamed. Iran Political leadership has curtailed the aggressive proxy war posture and adopted somewhat defensive posture. Barring Yemen (Even where the they are about to expel Iranian diplomat), Iran is not aggressively meddling or controlling groups in Iran or Syria. Recruiting from Afghanistan and Pakistan has stopped on the surface.

Solemaini was a war hawk like John Bolton of America or that group who advocated and pushed America to war in Iraq. After that lot passed, Exisiting Irani Leadership is like Obama and Trump, where they wanna wind down external wars and focus internally exclusively. Hence the overture with Saudia and UAE. The peacetalks that are happening through back channel contacts

Solemaini death was beneficial for moderate elements in iranian establishment as it allowed them to push warhawks against the wall and give peace a chance.

The last 2 years speak for itself. Do we hear the constant proxy war drums that we used to hear during his lifetime? No

Well the key difference was that we did it ourselves in Syria some neighbouring countries made a coalition of more than 90 countries to do that

Why you used Lebanese, Iraqis, Afghanis And Pakistanis in Syria if you did it all own your own? Hypocrisy and double standards has no bounds it seems.

 

[Hack-Hook]

no, Russians indiscriminate use of its air campaign destroyed the whole Syrian country and its population from continuing there legitimate struggle . so I did not see the neighbouring countries sending there help f16s , euro fighters, f15s to aid the opposition because if they did the outcome would have been different.

Russia never ever dropped a single barrel bomb in Syria , they only targeted the legitimate targets , those barrel bombs are the answer to hell cannon used by foreign terrorist in Syria since 2013

 

[Hack-Hook]

Ever since Soleimani death, Iran is on defensive, The aggressive posture of Soleimani and IRGC has been tamed. Iran Political leadership has curtailed the aggressive proxy war posture and adopted somewhat defensive posture. Barring Yemen (Even where the they are about to expel Iranian diplomat), Iran is not aggressively meddling or controlling groups in Iran or Syria. Recruiting from Afghanistan and Pakistan has stopped on the surface.

wrong , look better , before his death we didn't target USA forces after his martyrdom his successor is not shy about targeting USA forces and equipment around the region .
before his death we didn't gave our air defense system to proxies after his death suddenly our infamous loitering air defense missile popped out around the region

Solemaini was a war hawk like John Bolton of America or that group who advocated and pushed America to war in Iraq. After that lot passed, Exisiting Irani Leadership is like Obama and Trump, where they wanna wind down external wars and focus internally exclusively. Hence the overture with Saudia and UAE. The peacetalks that are happening through back channel contacts

at the time of his assassination the same so called war hawk was on a mission to normalize the relation between KSA and Iran but peace loving uncle Sam could not stand that

 

[Muhammed45]

Coming back to proxy use, Who gave Sulemani the right to hire recruits from Pakistan and make them fight in Syria?

There was no hiring. A Shia living knows it as a duty to defend shrines of Nabi Akram's grandsons and Granddaughters. We don't Ask for money in exchange of it.

I wasnt asking for bad things for Pakistanis, it is your country men that were wishing for ISIS rule in Syria, i just wished same happens for them. If its bad then its bad for Syrians too.

Sulemani was a destabilizing factor in the region . His use of Lebanese proxies, Afghanies, Pakistanis in syria war created further instability not only in syria but once those proxies returned back to their respective countries. It was like a disaster waiting to happen. A fuse about to be lit where these proxies would have started destabilizing their own c

A comment coming from a Pakistani friend shows your level of uninformed-ness. Soleimani stabilized the destabilized countries hit by Israeli and western supported terrorists.

The reason why most of you Pakistanis conciously or unconciously support terrorists in Syria is because of 2 factors, first religious bigotry second is supporting western agenda in this region.

Ever since Soleimani death, Iran is on defensive, The aggressive posture of Soleimani and IRGC has been tamed. Iran Political leadership has curtailed the aggressive proxy war posture and adopted somewhat defensive posture. Barring Yemen (Even where the they are about to expel Iranian diplomat), Iran is not aggressively meddling or controlling groups in Iran or Syria. Recruiting from Afghanistan and Pakistan has stopped on the surface.

What defensive posture? General Soleimani destroyed ISIS and after that Iranian role in Syria was decreased to tactical levels. He was the one that stabilized Syria and Iraq and stopped terror squads in those countries.

Solemaini was a war hawk like John Bolton of America or that group who advocated and pushed America to war in Iraq. After that lot passed, Exisiting Irani Leadership is like Obama and Trump, where they wanna wind down external wars and focus internally exclusively. Hence the overture with Saudia and UAE. The peacetalks that are happening through back channel contacts

That's your under standing so let us agree to disagree.

Solemaini death was beneficial for moderate elements in iranian establishment as it allowed them to push warhawks against the wall and give peace a chance.

That's because most of terror Elements were destroyed in Syraq.

The last 2 years speak for itself. Do we hear the constant proxy war drums that we used to hear during his lifetime? No

Let me tell this too, you were right about the fact that Pakistan was also a victim of Wahabi terrorism. And we know who has been funding the MADrassas training the suicide bombers in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

They are the destabilizing factors of our region not the ones that raised against them. Hope you get my point.

 

[SalarHaqq]

Coming back to proxy use, Who gave Sulemani the right to hire recruits from Pakistan and make them fight in Syria? Did we ever recruit any Iranis to fight Pakistani wars? This shows he was the coward who couldnt fight his own wars and had to rely on Lebanese and Iraqis,Afghanis and Paksitani Shias to fight his own war in Syria

There were Iranian troops fighting in Syria as well. In all, the governmental camp relied much less on foreign fighters than the opposition. It's not a question of cowardice, for in this regard few can measure up to Qasem Soleimani's generation of war veterans, whose selflessness and courage during the eight-year imposed war against Saddam has rather been rare in modern times. It is about reaching your objectives in a cost effective manner and avoid getting stuck into quagmires.

Sulemani was a destabilizing factor in the region . His use of Lebanese proxies, Afghanies, Pakistanis in syria war created further instability not only in syria but once those proxies returned back to their respective countries. It was like a disaster waiting to happen. A fuse about to be lit where these proxies would have started destabilizing their own countries out of their own will or own Iran Behalf

Are there examples of Lebanon, Afghanistan, Pakistan having gotten destabilized by Iranian-trained forces upon their return back home?

If anything then Hezbollah has been a most stabilizing factor in Lebanon. You might want to note that Hezbollah is the only major armed non-state actor never to have turned its guns on the national Lebanese army. And it has been pragmatic in striving to preserve Lebanon's delicate internal balance of power.

As for Afghanistan, most Afghan recruits have been residents of Iran. And those returning to Afghanistan haven't destabilized the country. Even the Taleban regime is coexisting peacefully with them and there have been no clashes.

Ever since Soleimani death, Iran is on defensive, The aggressive posture of Soleimani and IRGC has been tamed. Iran Political leadership has curtailed the aggressive proxy war posture and adopted somewhat defensive posture.

Iran's posture can't be considered aggressive since Iran was responding to attacks on her allies. Moreover in both Iraq and Syria, Iran entered the scene upon official request of local governments.

What happened is that Iran reached its objectives in these theaters. Hence there's no longer a need to pursue further large scale military action there.

Barring Yemen (Even where the they are about to expel Iranian diplomat), Iran is not aggressively meddling or controlling groups in Iran or Syria.

Iran's relationship with her allies in Iraq and Syria is at the same level as it used to be.

Recruiting from Afghanistan and Pakistan has stopped on the surface.

Because there is no need for that at the present time. Iran vanquished its enemies in the Syrian and Iraq wars, which by their nature called for involvement of Iranian-led allies.

Solemaini was a war hawk like John Bolton of America or that group who advocated and pushed America to war in Iraq.

Did Soleimani ever advocate preventive war upon bogus, manufactured pseudo-evidence like the US regime vis a vis Iraq in 2003?

After that lot passed, Exisiting Irani Leadership is like Obama and Trump, where they wanna wind down external wars and focus internally exclusively.

If Iran's allies come under attack again, then the present Iranian leadership will rescue them similar to how Tehran proceeded some years ago.

Hence the overture with Saudia and UAE. The peacetalks that are happening through back channel contacts

These were initiated at the request of the mentioned PGCC regimes. Because they failed at dismantling the Iranian-sponsored Axis of Resistance through the proxy wars they helped trigger at the behest of NATO, so they're trying to bide their time at the current juncture. My guess is that nothing very big will come out of the present talks.

Solemaini death was beneficial for moderate elements in iranian establishment as it allowed them to push warhawks against the wall and give peace a chance.

Could you perhaps name these elements? Who are the war hawks and moderates in the Iranian establishment?

The last 2 years speak for itself. Do we hear the constant proxy war drums that we used to hear during his lifetime? No

The last two years have been quite peaceful ones for Iran's allies in the region. Hence why there's been no requirement for military action on Iran's part.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Why you used Lebanese, Iraqis, Afghanis And Pakistanis in Syria if you did it all own your own? Hypocrisy and double standards has no bounds it seems

we send the Pakistani and Afghan recruits there under the Liwa Fatemiyoun and Liwa Zainebiyoun Security companies there after the attack on anything Syrian by terrorists and cannibals from 90 countries around the world.
Lebanese went to Syria to secure Lebanon order after terrorist activity spilled into Lebanon Have you forgot that so soon? and really do you need to ask why Iraqi groups went in and controlled Iraq-Syria Border !?

oming back to proxy use, Who gave Sulemani the right to hire recruits from Pakistan and make them fight in Syria? Did we ever recruit any Iranis to fight Pakistani wars? This shows he was the coward who couldnt fight his own wars and had to rely on Lebanese and Iraqis,Afghanis and Paksitani Shias to fight his own war in Syria

who banned him from that , did Pakistan Government even for a single time filed an official complaint to us for that ?
better go and Ask your government why they didn't do that ?
by the way why I don't see you guys get angry when terrorist recruit from Pakistan ?

If anything then Hezbollah has been the single most stabilizing factor in Lebanon. You might want to note that Hezbollah is the only major armed non-state actor never to have turned its guns on the national Lebanese army.

don't ask about turning gun on national army ask him if he can show us a single time that national Lebanon army needed help and asked for it and Hezbollah made any hesitation in answering that call for help.

 

[SalarHaqq]

don't ask about turning gun on national army ask him if he can show us a single time that national Lebanon army needed help and asked for it and Hezbollah made any hesitation in answering that call for help.

That too.

 

[Bratva]

Pakistan deserves to be ruled by the degenerate Taliban that you have fostered in Afghanistan!

Here is something your Pea sized brain needs to understand. Those "Proxies" that Iran has are our ideological partners, they can be from anywhere in the world they like, and we will never abandon them.

What about the degenerates in IRAN who stops woman on roads and ask them to wear Hijab?

https://www.reddit.com/r/iamatotalpieceofshit/comments/rp1jbm

Your country is more ideologically aligned with Afghantan than Pakistan. Atleast this doesnt happen in Pakistan.

Pakistan doesnt use religious card and Prophet PBUH Family to gather proxies from pakistan afghanistan iraq and lebanon to fight your regional wars. Using people in the name religion to create your supremacy is the ultimate form of degeneracy and also the above link proved what kind degenerate exists in Iran

 

[QWECXZ]

What about the degenerates in IRAN who stops woman on roads and ask them to wear Hijab?

https://www.reddit.com/r/iamatotalpieceofshit/comments/rp1jbm

Your country is more ideologically aligned with Afghantan than Pakistan. Atleast this doesnt happen in Pakistan.

Pakistan doesnt use religious card and Prophet PBUH Family to gather proxies from pakistan afghanistan iraq and lebanon to fight your regional wars. Using people in the name religion to create your supremacy is the ultimate form of degeneracy and also the above link proved what kind degenerate exists in Iran

‌Your people torture and set human beings on fire for blasphemy. Your culture and many of your citizens are pretty much the same as the Taliban, if not more radical and worse. It happened just a month ago, in 2021. PDF is still full of posts by Pakistani posters that cheer the Taliban takeover of Afghanistan. I think currently Pakistan is the only country in the region (and perhaps in the world) that not only has officially recognized the Taliban, but is urging other countries to do the same.

Man tortured and killed in Pakistan over ‘blasphemy’

Government accused of having emboldened extremists after lynching of Sri Lankan in Sialkot

www.theguardian.com

‘Beaten To Death And Burnt:’ Blasphemy Allegations Claim New Victim In Pakistan

A mob in Pakistan has beaten a man to death and burned his body over allegations of blasphemy -- an explosive issue in the Muslim-majority country where even unproven allegations can stir up violence and large protests.

gandhara.rferl.org

 

[Aramagedon]

The barbarism culture from najd has nothing to do with Islam.