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MARTIAL LAW: INEVITABLE REMEDY TO STOP CORRUPTION IN PAKISTAN

so u believe only Politicnas loot money! while dictaotrs are there only to serve country! How much wealoth was recovered during Mushy rule of 10 years!

1stly, not really your concern now is it? But if you must know:

Musshy is not the only one looting...everyone loots my concern is based on who is looting more than giving...

My concern is also based on how highlighting 1 crime and ignoring the other is being called justice!

Sure Musshy did mistakes however I am not fully supporting him...I am saying punish him sure but why at the same time give a blind eye to the other lootayra? Each has their hands in blood so each should be punished ...calling 1 out and then burying the cases against others is not fair...if this was a fair trial other's cases would be next but they are not instead they are buried and never to be opened!
 
So you just 'copy & pasted' here! It'll just be 'temporary'! Won't solve the 'menace of corruption'!
The solution have to come from the 'Populace'
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:pakistan:

Aye, what use is trying to help people who will never help themselves?
 
"Failing" is a matter of perspective. If u look at economic developments it was far from failing.

Musharraf did well in my opinion. But do remember what dictatorship bought us originally.

We went to Kargil, and failed, we sacrificed those soldiers and the whole gig was messed up by pathetic mismanagement at higher levels.

What happened after that? We were tagged the irresponsible nuclear power in a highly unstable neighbourhood. To make matters worse, what little face we had to say that we had a democratic government was gone. So what were we at the end of the 90's. A new nuclear power, a highly irresponsible state in the eyes of the world, a politically unstable state, and a dictatorship.

Add all that up and you have Colin Powell saying ''They're sanctioned up to the eyeballs''. Our economy went through a poor show of successive governments. Now who were these governments? Well I reckon if it wasn't for the execution of ZAB, the PPP would never have had a martyr, would never have lived till the 90's in the failed kind of monopoly government they had. And Nawaz Sharif was a directly fed and sheltered under Zia. What's the result? The two pathetic governments of the 90's were both born out dictatorships or the actions of the dictators.

Same thing happened with Mushy, NRO, he goes, who comes back in? NS, and the PPP. back to square one, cue the 90's. lets hope this run doesn't end the same way as it did in the 90's.
 
Musharraf did well in my opinion. But do remember what dictatorship bought us originally.

We went to Kargil, and failed, we sacrificed those soldiers and the whole gig was messed up by pathetic mismanagement at higher levels.

What happened after that? We were tagged the irresponsible nuclear power in a highly unstable neighbourhood. To make matters worse, what little face we had to say that we had a democratic government was gone. So what were we at the end of the 90's. A new nuclear power, a highly irresponsible state in the eyes of the world, a politically unstable state, and a dictatorship.

Add all that up and you have Colin Powell saying ''They're sanctioned up to the eyeballs''. Our economy went through a poor show of successive governments. Now who were these governments? Well I reckon if it wasn't for the execution of ZAB, the PPP would never have had a martyr, would never have lived till the 90's in the failed kind of monopoly government they had. And Nawaz Sharif was a directly fed and sheltered under Zia. What's the result? The two pathetic governments of the 90's were both born out dictatorships or the actions of the dictators.

Same thing happened with Mushy, NRO, he goes, who comes back in? NS, and the PPP. back to square one, cue the 90's. lets hope this run doesn't end the same way as it did in the 90's.
Thats one way to look at it and i quite agree there.
 
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Musharraf did well in my opinion. But do remember what dictatorship bought us originally.

We went to Kargil, and failed, we sacrificed those soldiers and the whole gig was messed up by pathetic mismanagement at higher levels.

What happened after that? We were tagged the irresponsible nuclear power in a highly unstable neighbourhood. To make matters worse, what little face we had to say that we had a democratic government was gone. So what were we at the end of the 90's. A new nuclear power, a highly irresponsible state in the eyes of the world, a politically unstable state, and a dictatorship.

Add all that up and you have Colin Powell saying ''They're sanctioned up to the eyeballs''. Our economy went through a poor show of successive governments. Now who were these governments? Well I reckon if it wasn't for the execution of ZAB, the PPP would never have had a martyr, would never have lived till the 90's in the failed kind of monopoly government they had. And Nawaz Sharif was a directly fed and sheltered under Zia. What's the result? The two pathetic governments of the 90's were both born out dictatorships or the actions of the dictators.

Same thing happened with Mushy, NRO, he goes, who comes back in? NS, and the PPP. back to square one, cue the 90's. lets hope this run doesn't end the same way as it did in the 90's.

What Gen Musharraf did wrong, we are only just beginning to pay the costs for that, just like we paid for Gen Zia's blunders for decades thereafter.
 
why not, just a few boots on few butts it takes ?
or may be few heads this time with few bullets?

i am saying whats the probability of this happening..... because if u look the overall geo-political situation of the region, will the dynamics favor the boots on the ground?
 
i am saying whats the probability of this happening..... because if u look the overall geo-political situation of the region, will the dynamics favor the boots on the ground?
boots allways gets on the grounds , when ever dynamics not favors them?
 
All progress we see in Pakistan is through Martial Law but Martial Law is a temporary solution. If you tell your maters Zardari and Sherif to stop looting my money, I will not call the Army on them.

if army starts looting then who would you call on them
 
All progress we see in Pakistan is through Martial Law but Martial Law is a temporary solution. If you tell your maters Zardari and Sherif to stop looting my money, I will not call the Army on them.

if army starts looting then who would you call on them

You are expected to introduce yourself in the 1st post.
 
If a Martial Law Dictatorship is so good, then why is it that if fails so spectacularly in about 10 years or so in Pakistan? Why does it not continue? The answer lies in foundations of treasonous sand which cannot support what is patently unjust.
You are expected to introduce yourself in the 1st post.

sorry i didnt know the procedure . but plz ans my question
 
I do not see a question , all I see is a statement which I presume is your view on the subject.


my brother army is not the best option to govern the country. it has failed before it will fail again. the country has already devided into 2 parts in 1970. if army goes wrong again who has the power to stop them?
 
my brother army is not the best option to govern the country. it has failed before it will fail again. the country has already devided into 2 parts in 1970. if army goes wrong again who has the power to stop them?

Agreed .

Let me give you the 1st ' Thanks' for your views.
 
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"Deliverance can only stop Martial Law and not the trial of former dictator Parveez Musharraf " stated Major General Athar Abbas ex DG ISRP in a TV talk show. On the contrary the politicians conviction, a security guard can't takeover the house doesn't matter what. He is just paid to guard to protect us say Zafar Ali Shah. Are you serious, doesn't matter what??? even if in the house, my brother borrows billions in my name that I have to repay and the stolen billions make castles in foreign lands, all without my knowledge? I don't think so. Its the same reason some of us do want Pakistan Army to monitor over those who are track record of being crooks and real traitors of the nation and here is why?

In 2008-13 saw when PPP took over governance with foreign reserves of US 12.4 billion dollar according to the State Bank statements dated April11th, 2014. The best year for FX reserve in Pakistan was 2006 when the reserve reached US15.4 billion dollars.The next 5 years saw the worst governance example after Somalia. PPP governments failure to deliver the basic needs to public sent Zardari family back to Sindh. PPP blamed its bad governance on poor economic conditions, lack of resources and terrorism but literally, Pakistan saw the worst flee of capital causing US dollar to Rs.95.

Ironically, the State Bank of Pakistan says that Pakistan held highest levels of US dollar reserves under Zardari government. You don't have to believe me, just look at the Pakistan FX reserve report. ( link provided in the source)

State Bank FX reserve statement April 11th, 2014
YEAR US Billions
2008-09 12.4
2009-10 16.7
2010-11 18.2
2011-12 15.2
2012-13 11.0
2014-April 9.8​

With US12.4 billions in reserve left by Musharraf regime, Zardari government, in Nov 2008, requested IMF for $7.2 billion standby agreement which is kind off a line of credit. Before its expiry in Dec30, 2010. Pakistan withdrew 4.9 billion according to number reported by IMF.

Really, Pakistan had US 18 billion in the banks in 2010 and people were without electric power? Remember people ransacked WAPDA houses, burnt transformers, public unrest was on the streets, public destroying government and public properties costing million in damages, students education was gravely impacted, worker lost jobs because Government of Pakistan couldn't pay circular debt of 5 billion. People lived under hazardous condition of extreme heat, mostly without power 14-18 hours causing factories to close, additionally creating billions in financial losses.

Reserves of foreign exchange and gold (US$)



During this period, 2008-2011, media reported worst flee of capital, industrialist taking manufacturing facilities overseas causing alarming unemployment in Pakistan.The nation went through agonizing pain and PPP answered " Treasury Is Empty". State Bank of Pakistan reports, Pakistan had record FX reserves US 18.2 billion in the banks in years 2010-11. Mind wonders, why then US dollar went from 62 rupees to 98 rupees with so much FX dollar reserves with State and public banks? Something smell fishy.....where did the money go? Let's see...

Noteworthy are year 2011-2013, when, a large chuck, US 7.2 Billion, more then borrowed from IMF, vanished instantly from Pakistan FX reserves. Yes ladies and gentleman, Rs. 7200 crores in 2 years gone with the wind and shared by those politicians, who prided, corruption is our right because PPP sacrificed for democracy. These are the people, public trusted over "security guards". Every minister looted, every MNA of PPP looted and every department looted. Government Ministers admitted in SC waking up with 2 crore in their bank accounts without knowledge and corruption agents like Tuqeer Saqqid charged and brought back for 3000 crore fraud none recovered. If Raja rental looted in rental scams then Galani looted Agricultural Bank. Haji, Steel Mill, PIA, Insurance, Stock Market scandals.....40 cases were registered on different leaders of PPP government for maga corruption.

Yes we were promised by PLMN leadership, once elected, we will have rope in the neck of "Ali Baba and 40 Thieves". We were promised that all money looted by PPP from treasury will be brought back.Yes we all were promised. Almost a year in the Government of PLMN, no action has been taken. Cases are stayed, muted or investigation officer are sent on leave. Not a single conviction. This is Muk Muka ladies and gentleman.

Why PPP financial crimes will not be prosecute? Zardari family never moved any case against Sherif family in their 5 years, now Sherif family will return favor to Zardari family. With " Misaka Corruption" signed in London, both families have agreed to rule and loot systematically, appoint National Accountability Bureau chairman of their choice. They are free in get loan in our names, print money in our name while building empires for their families. The best part has yet to come, once our suffering ends our children and grand children have to pay the money back and we have to keep vote them in power so we can say, we love democracy. Knowing they never give State of Pakistan or Pakistani public anything other than false promises which don't cost a cent let alone a dollar.

Equally responsible are those political leaders who witness the biggest robbery of Treasury in Pakistani history and stayed muted. TO ME, MUTENESS ON BILLIONS OF DOLLARS CORRUPTION WAS MUTINY WITH THE STATE OF PAKISTAN. I don't know about you but if I have to work hard to pay the debt someone else borrowed in my name, honestly contrary to political conviction, I don't mind if " security guard" we hired to protects our house, putts those crooks on a gun point, have them sign all bank accounts and sale papers of their foreign assets and hang them for public viewing. Once billions recovered, Pakistani treasury can pay national debt and a future elected government formed under genuine fair and free election provides electricity and much needed economic growth to Pakistan. In short, If looting of the national treasury is not stopped and people are not delivered sigh of relief, Martial Law is inevitable in Pakistan.
Source:AN EYE ON PAKISTAN

Sure dictators are good for economy,but that doesn't ensure that corruption is destroyed
 
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"Deliverance can only stop Martial Law and not the trial of former dictator Parveez Musharraf " stated Major General Athar Abbas ex DG ISRP in a TV talk show. On the contrary the politicians conviction, a security guard can't takeover the house doesn't matter what. He is just paid to guard to protect us say Zafar Ali Shah. Are you serious, doesn't matter what??? even if in the house, my brother borrows billions in my name that I have to repay and the stolen billions make castles in foreign lands, all without my knowledge? I don't think so. Its the same reason some of us do want Pakistan Army to monitor over those who are track record of being crooks and real traitors of the nation and here is why?

In 2008-13 saw when PPP took over governance with foreign reserves of US 12.4 billion dollar according to the State Bank statements dated April11th, 2014. The best year for FX reserve in Pakistan was 2006 when the reserve reached US15.4 billion dollars.The next 5 years saw the worst governance example after Somalia. PPP governments failure to deliver the basic needs to public sent Zardari family back to Sindh. PPP blamed its bad governance on poor economic conditions, lack of resources and terrorism but literally, Pakistan saw the worst flee of capital causing US dollar to Rs.95.

Ironically, the State Bank of Pakistan says that Pakistan held highest levels of US dollar reserves under Zardari government. You don't have to believe me, just look at the Pakistan FX reserve report. ( link provided in the source)

State Bank FX reserve statement April 11th, 2014
YEAR US Billions
2008-09 12.4
2009-10 16.7
2010-11 18.2
2011-12 15.2
2012-13 11.0
2014-April 9.8​

With US12.4 billions in reserve left by Musharraf regime, Zardari government, in Nov 2008, requested IMF for $7.2 billion standby agreement which is kind off a line of credit. Before its expiry in Dec30, 2010. Pakistan withdrew 4.9 billion according to number reported by IMF.

Really, Pakistan had US 18 billion in the banks in 2010 and people were without electric power? Remember people ransacked WAPDA houses, burnt transformers, public unrest was on the streets, public destroying government and public properties costing million in damages, students education was gravely impacted, worker lost jobs because Government of Pakistan couldn't pay circular debt of 5 billion. People lived under hazardous condition of extreme heat, mostly without power 14-18 hours causing factories to close, additionally creating billions in financial losses.

Reserves of foreign exchange and gold (US$)



During this period, 2008-2011, media reported worst flee of capital, industrialist taking manufacturing facilities overseas causing alarming unemployment in Pakistan.The nation went through agonizing pain and PPP answered " Treasury Is Empty". State Bank of Pakistan reports, Pakistan had record FX reserves US 18.2 billion in the banks in years 2010-11. Mind wonders, why then US dollar went from 62 rupees to 98 rupees with so much FX dollar reserves with State and public banks? Something smell fishy.....where did the money go? Let's see...

Noteworthy are year 2011-2013, when, a large chuck, US 7.2 Billion, more then borrowed from IMF, vanished instantly from Pakistan FX reserves. Yes ladies and gentleman, Rs. 7200 crores in 2 years gone with the wind and shared by those politicians, who prided, corruption is our right because PPP sacrificed for democracy. These are the people, public trusted over "security guards". Every minister looted, every MNA of PPP looted and every department looted. Government Ministers admitted in SC waking up with 2 crore in their bank accounts without knowledge and corruption agents like Tuqeer Saqqid charged and brought back for 3000 crore fraud none recovered. If Raja rental looted in rental scams then Galani looted Agricultural Bank. Haji, Steel Mill, PIA, Insurance, Stock Market scandals.....40 cases were registered on different leaders of PPP government for maga corruption.

Yes we were promised by PLMN leadership, once elected, we will have rope in the neck of "Ali Baba and 40 Thieves". We were promised that all money looted by PPP from treasury will be brought back.Yes we all were promised. Almost a year in the Government of PLMN, no action has been taken. Cases are stayed, muted or investigation officer are sent on leave. Not a single conviction. This is Muk Muka ladies and gentleman.

Why PPP financial crimes will not be prosecute? Zardari family never moved any case against Sherif family in their 5 years, now Sherif family will return favor to Zardari family. With " Misaka Corruption" signed in London, both families have agreed to rule and loot systematically, appoint National Accountability Bureau chairman of their choice. They are free in get loan in our names, print money in our name while building empires for their families. The best part has yet to come, once our suffering ends our children and grand children have to pay the money back and we have to keep vote them in power so we can say, we love democracy. Knowing they never give State of Pakistan or Pakistani public anything other than false promises which don't cost a cent let alone a dollar.

Equally responsible are those political leaders who witness the biggest robbery of Treasury in Pakistani history and stayed muted. TO ME, MUTENESS ON BILLIONS OF DOLLARS CORRUPTION WAS MUTINY WITH THE STATE OF PAKISTAN. I don't know about you but if I have to work hard to pay the debt someone else borrowed in my name, honestly contrary to political conviction, I don't mind if " security guard" we hired to protects our house, putts those crooks on a gun point, have them sign all bank accounts and sale papers of their foreign assets and hang them for public viewing. Once billions recovered, Pakistani treasury can pay national debt and a future elected government formed under genuine fair and free election provides electricity and much needed economic growth to Pakistan. In short, If looting of the national treasury is not stopped and people are not delivered sigh of relief, Martial Law is inevitable in Pakistan.
Source:AN EYE ON PAKISTAN

Simply stupid article. Martial Law is neither imposed because of economic concerns nor can it solve economic problems. In-fact most corruption happens during martial law.
 
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