Man arrested for Pakistani crescent on Indian flag

[KRAIT]

BTW in Jaipur, Islamic organizations protesting against Literary Festival where someone will speak lines from Satanic Verses by Salman Rushdie.

Seems like Indian Muslims have right to protest too. Last year Salman Rushdie arrival in Jaipur was also protested. No Pakistani said anything about denial of Rushdie because of Indian Muslim protest.

 

[Spring Onion]

That is unfortunately a recurring problem & one that needs to be put down with an iron hand. Scumbags exist in every community & need to be dealt with before they taste success.

Its becoming unedning recurring problem. when will this be ended when we see people like some Indian members here who defend and we remember in that case about that resturant the Indian members were enjoying killing of the Muslim Indian saying good that they were being targeted but what is their opinion now? when the police found the hindus at fault and not the muslims in that case

 

[Iggy]

Its becoming unedning recurring problem. when will this be ended when we see people like some Indian members here who defend and we remember in that case about that resturant the Indian members were enjoying killing of the Muslim Indian saying good that they were being targeted but what is their opinion now? when the police found the hindus at fault and not the muslims in that case

I think I missed reading it.. Can you share a link please??

 

[KRAIT]

I see you are applying irrational emotionalism when it comes to India-Pakistan. Howcome in that case shinde's statement is not based on mere newspaper/media highlights and in case of Hindu terrorism as one of your members said, his statement is based on media .And the reply for the bold part in your post is in the red

Madam, GOI made the statement after Army told them the case.

As for Shinde, he just said these reports were in media and there is nothing wrong he said. He just said, saw on News just now. But thing is no proof provided. No action taken.


No concrete proofs by NIA (National Investigative Agency), they are looking at links, still no proof found. Live from Headline Today, News Channel.

Media asking why did Shinde made remarks if the investigation of not complete.

Other Congress leaders supporting him for this remark. This issue totally politicized.

 

[notsuperstitious]

When an indian minister gave an account of the LOC incident, india officially protested to pakistan and a reply was also given on LOC.

We want the same in this case, ban BJP and RSS and jail them OTHERWISE shinde should resign for dereliction of duty.

Fair?

 

[Spring Onion]

Pls don't spread lies. A hindu restaurant owner hit a muslim for not paying. The muslim man came back with a group and started the riot, they even burned down a police post.

6 muslims died in police firing, and there are allegations of police targetting muslims and a judicial probe (actually two) are ordered.

lies what lies?

all those killed were Muslims and the police was a party to the taregt killings.

 

[Iggy]

When an indian minister gave an account of the LOC incident, india officially protested to pakistan and a reply was also given on LOC.

We want the same in this case, ban BJP and RSS and jail them OTHERWISE shinde should resign for dereliction of duty.

Fair?

This is what I am saying too.. If he have proof, take action against them.. He is the bloody home minister of India and he is willing to shoot anyone if Sonia ji commands.. I am sure that he is not afraid of any one.. Take stern action.. Other wise, apologize to the nation and retire from politics.. I am sure Sonia ji's house need a gardenwala or kitchenwala..

lies what lies?

all those killed were Muslims and the police was a party to the taregt killings.

Target killing??? What you want to do when people create rucksack and burned a police post??

 

[Spring Onion]

Target killing??? What you want to do when people create rucksack and burned a police post??

all those killed were not part of the mob but all those six Muslims were going for their daily routine tasks.

The police was party to Hindu mob's planes and they killed only Muslims.

 

[Iggy]

all those killed were not part of the mob but all those six Muslims were going for their daily routine tasks.

The police was party to Hindu mob's planes and they killed only Muslims.

Dont posts crap out of your imagination.. Do you have any evidence??

Its been a habit of you posting all kind of nonsense with out any evidence..

You have any idea how many police men were injured in that riot??

They were forced upon shooting when the riot become more violent..

 

[Spring Onion]

Dont posts crap out of your imagination.. Do you have any evidence??

Its been a habit of you posting all kind of nonsense with out any evidence..

You have any idea how many police men were injured in that riot??



They were forced upon shooting when the riot become more violent..

Police trained their guns on us, say Dhule victims



Rizwan Shah, a 21-year-old cloth shop owner left home for Macchi Bazaar, the main market area here, to buy plastic bags on Sunday evening but he never returned. Rizwan, who succumbed to his bullet injuries in the anus and thigh on Tuesday morning, is the fifth person killed in the police firing that followed an altercation and a riot on January 6. Testimonies from the people raised doubts that the police had targeted Muslims, but the ADGP denied the charge.

According to the police, five people were killed and more than 200, including 90 police officers, were injured in the violence that followed a small fight between a food stall owner and a rickshawman in a sensitive area here. However, family members of all those who were killed and injured alleged police high-handedness. An eyewitness, Abdul Rehman Shaikh, said: “The others were using stones. The police used bullets. Is that fair?”

“My son was innocent. He used to be scared of fights and riots. He was a calm, quiet boy,” Raeesa Bi Shah told The Hindu. Rizwan was married eight months ago, and his 17-year-old wife Nargis is pregnant. Asked what her demands from the police were, Nargis could not talk and collapsed on the floor. “They killed young, innocent people. How can we trust the police anymore?” asked Rizwan’s father Hasan Shah.

“Why were only Muslims killed? Only Muslim houses burnt? Can the police explain? More than 70 Muslim youths were hit and shot at, whereas only two Hindus have suffered bullet injuries. What can we expect from the police who did this?”


The distrust of police and tales of atrocity are not confined to the families of those who were killed. At Macchi Bazaar, where curfew has been imposed since Sunday evening, people alleged that it was the police who set fire to their houses and looted cash and gold ornaments.

Refusing to be kept indoors by curfew, people came out of their houses to talk about “abusive use” of force by the police. “My old mother, who is bed ridden, was sleeping, when the police entered our house and fired teargas shells. The women police hit her with lathis. They called us names and said we will not be spared,” complained Kahirunissa Bano. Teargas still hangs over her two-room house.

“After curfew was enforced, the police came and damaged our rickshaw and broke our doors,” Mohammad Hussain Rustom said. Similar allegations came from all quarters of the Muslim-inhabited area, where vehicles and hand-carts were gutted at every corner.

“As soon as I heard there were clashes, I took my two daughters and left the house in fear. But I could see police and a few other people entering my locked house. They took everything they could, and burnt the rest,” Tasleem Yusuf Katik said. A sum of Rs. 50,000 that she had saved for her daughter’s wedding next month, clothes and gold ornaments were all gone, she said, standing on burnt debris, the remains of what was her house till two days ago.

Her neighbour Nafisa Shah has a similar story, but is not sure if it was the police who burnt her two-storey house beyond recognition. “The police could not save my house. I do not know whether they did it, but it was their responsibility to ensure safety. Where will we go now?”

The residents of Macchi Bazaar this correspondent spoke to also alleged that the police had not taken Panchnama, required to estimate the loss incurred. “My shop was burnt with materials worth Rs. 7 lakh in it and the talathi who came to record the Panchnama refused to talk to me,” said Habib Ahmed Haji.


Although a relatively small number, two Hindu families this correspondent spoke to said their houses had also been looted and burnt. “They burnt everything. I had just fled with my daughter to save our lives, but when I came back everything was gutted,” Priyanka Sonar said.

Another allegation is that the police did not follow the standard operating procedure of using teargas and lathi charge before firing at the people. Added to that is the complaint that they fired, aiming at the chest directly. “Did the police shoot to kill my brother? The bullet went through his chest,” said Asif Ali, brother of 23-year-old wireman Imran Ali. Egg vendor Asim Shaikh, 23, was also hit in the chest and near the navel. “My son died while going through his routine. Who will support the family now?” his mother Abida Bi asked. “We want to know who ordered the shooting. Were the police told to kill people?” his brother Shaikh Wasim wanted to know.


Fear and frustration are palpable in the bereaved families and among those who survived. “My son went to buy chicken for the house and never returned. What was his fault?” asked Parveen Patel, mother of Raees Patel, 17, who was killed on Sunday. “We do not need to tell you if we feel safe anymore. How can we bring up our boys in such an atmosphere where we are openly targeted?” asked Raees’ grandfather Dawood Rahid Deshpande.


Deputy Tehsildar Abdul Halim Ansari, whose 30-year-old son Hafiz Asif Abdul Halim was also killed in the police firing, is angry with the system of which he is part, and refuses to go back to work. “The system is biased. How can I go back and work there? My son had not done anything wrong,” Mr. Ansari told The Hindu.
“There is no guarantee that this won’t happen again. The police have failed us. We have nothing against Hindus, but we do not trust the police,” said 23-year-old Shaikh Akbar Sultan, who survived bullet injuries in the shoulder.


The Hindu : News / National : Police trained their guns on us, say Dhule victims

 

[notsuperstitious]

lies what lies?

all those killed were Muslims and the police was a party to the taregt killings.

Although I'm aware of your snivelling around, let me explain this once.

The lie, that were sneaked in, was that hindus started the riot, in your previous post.

And the lie you are spreading now is that here was targetted killing of Muslims by police. Well there is an enquiry on and that will decide if police failed in their duty, not YOU. Obviously i expect those shot by police to complain of bias, thats hardly facts, the judge will decide that, not police, not those who were shot, and certainly not YOU.

 

[KRAIT]

Although I'm aware of your snivelling around, let me explain this once.
The lie, that were sneaked in, was that hindus started the riot, in your previous post.
And the lie you are spreading now is that here was targetted killing of Muslims by police. Well there is an enquiry on and that will decide if police failed in their duty, not YOU. Obviously i expect those shot by police to complain of bias, thats hardly facts, the judge will decide that, not police, not those who were shot, and certainly not YOU.

They think same things happen in India that happens in Karachi. Do you know they can't even convict a person who has killed 70+ Shias and another released who has killed over 100+ Shias.

 

[atatwolf]

When did this happen?

 

[Black Widow]

I see you are applying irrational emotionalism when it comes to India-Pakistan. Howcome in that case shinde's statement is not based on mere newspaper/media highlights and in case of Hindu terrorism as one of your members said, his statement is based on media .

And the reply for the bold part in your post is in the red

I didn't tell that hos comment is based on media news, rather he himself told so. Just Imagine a person who is second powerful man of Indian democracy it talking Gossips.


He is home minister for god sake, not peon. He has all investigating agencies right from RAW to CID. if he has prove, he close the so called terror camp. He must not act like rehman mallik and digvijay singh...


Shinde issue must not be talk here, there is dedicated thread for it

http://www.defence.pk/forums/strate...du-terrorism-pakistan-india-relations-27.html

 

[Black Widow]

@topic: Man arrested for Pakistani crescent on Indian flag

He must be a kongressi, look like these days kongressi want Pakistani nationalism. Yesterday Saeed praised Shinde, today Digvijay Singh use respectable words for Saeed....

Diggi told him "Haffez Saeed Sahab", He is the same Diggi who told "Osama Jee"...