Making Pakistan giving nationality to Afghan is US plan

[Maarkhoor]

Guys, Khan is very stubborn and he will not let it go away easily. I think the real plan of him is to do give nationality to Afghans...

Remember how US wanted Pakistan to don't send refugees back to Afghanistan.

There were Bosnian refugees in Pakistan few decades back. What peaceful and nice people they were. Pakistanis themselves would had advocated for granting them citizenship while on the other hand Afghans.....They have done nothing to win the trust of Pakistanis. Pashtuns suffered the most due to these ungrateful people. Karachi got drug business due to them.

Last time we did mistake is allowing these refugees under guise of humanity to spread all over Pakistan...Result is in front of everyone to see. No province, literally, is happy with them.

Another thing which I concluded from all the debate we had done for few days is that these Afghans have great great pride and arrogance. Just because you grant them Pakistani citizenship doesn't mean they'll become Pakistanis...The most funny thing will be that the same guys who are playing game with us - advocating for granting citizenship to Afghans, these same guys will be first to remind Pakistanis that don't go hard on Afghanistan as its ethnic citizens live in Pakistan who can cause great disturbance in own country - a warlike/insurgency kinda situation.

If haramis got citizenship - We will just hand over a leverage to Afghan government and foreign agencies to destabilize us big time - Enemy is still doing though.

They call Punjabis "Dalkhor" and other nonsense stuff. They lay claim to almost half of our country. They try to divide Pakistanis - how? They pose themselves as Pakistani Pashtuns and start badmouthing Punjabis hence sowing ethnic seeds in Pakistan.

All those Afghan refugees who are born and bred in Pakistan - even they hate and spit venom against Pakistan. Hamid Karzai? who lived his life in Pakistan as a refugee yet bark against Pakistan? ring any bells?

Former Afghanistan President Hamid Karzai 'welcomes' Trump's Pakistan threat

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...-hamid-karzai-welcomes-trumps-pakistan-threat

So, what is the guarantee that they'll become loyal and good citizens of country once granted citizenship? Instead they'll become more rude and arrogant. They will start supporting Pashteen aka PTM dogs. Manzor Pashteen will have hundreds of thousand of followers - a nightmare scenario for our agencies. PTM turned out to be very clever.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1041591978335461376

They put blame on establishment as if establishment wanted to grant citizenship to Afghans, making establishment think that if PTM is opposing this process then it'll be good idea to grant citizenship to Afghans. A clever play of PTM. They desperately want that to happen as it will provide them and achakzai unlimited number of followers and then when they come on streets, western media will portray it as Pakistani Pashtuns protesting against Pakistan and army. The game which western media recently played as well.

Manzoor Pashteen: The young tribesman rattling Pakistan's army

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-43827660

They are called namak haram for a reason. They will never respect Pakistanis as they think of us being their slaves throughout centuries and they themselves being very proud race.

Khan is playing a very dangerous game, knowingly or unknowingly. We should not gamble and put our future generations in difficulty.

When you don't acknowledge your own worth and start appeasing every tom dick or harry, trust me, it invites more enemies....The many Afghans will start moving towards Pakistan as soon as they hear that Pakistan is granting them citizenship.

Humanity is just one factor but it is heavily outgunned by other unsolved variables. Who says we can't send them back? We have sent them back and process is still going on albeit in slow manner....Everything was going fine, we were repatriating refugees and then Khan appeared out of nowhere and played into hands of enemy.

Can anyone remember? When Chaudhry Nisar once said that US is pressurizing Pakistan to not send refugees back? link of it? anyone has?

Provinces and LEAs need to fight back this decision tooth and nail....Khan is asking for suggestions, give him......ASK HIM TO SEND REFUGEES BACK. NOTHING SHORT OF THAT. PERIOD.

@Kabira @Zibago @Maarkhoor @SecularNationalist @TMA

Pakistan military can't allow such move since it will drastically change demography of Pakistan....

Those who voted for him now.....

 

[hussain0216]

Pakistan military can't allow such move since it will drastically change demography of Pakistan....

Those who voted for him now.....

Imran Khan is far superior to all the other corrupt worthless politicians in Pakistan

Its just that this is a stupid decision

 

[Maarkhoor]

far superior

 

[War Thunder]

Guys, Khan is very stubborn and he will not let it go away easily. I think the real plan of him is to do give nationality to Afghans...

Remember how US wanted Pakistan to don't send refugees back to Afghanistan.

There were Bosnian refugees in Pakistan few decades back. What peaceful and nice people they were. Pakistanis themselves would had advocated for granting them citizenship while on the other hand Afghans.....They have done nothing to win the trust of Pakistanis. Pashtuns suffered the most due to these ungrateful people. Karachi got drug business due to them.

Last time we did mistake is allowing these refugees under guise of humanity to spread all over Pakistan...Result is in front of everyone to see. No province, literally, is happy with them.

Another thing which I concluded from all the debate we had done for few days is that these Afghans have great great pride and arrogance. Just because you grant them Pakistani citizenship doesn't mean they'll become Pakistanis...The most funny thing will be that the same guys who are playing game with us - advocating for granting citizenship to Afghans, these same guys will be first to remind Pakistanis that don't go hard on Afghanistan as its ethnic citizens live in Pakistan who can cause great disturbance in own country - a warlike/insurgency kinda situation.

If haramis got citizenship - We will just hand over a leverage to Afghan government and foreign agencies to destabilize us big time - Enemy is still doing though.

They call Punjabis "Dalkhor" and other nonsense stuff. They lay claim to almost half of our country. They try to divide Pakistanis - how? They pose themselves as Pakistani Pashtuns and start badmouthing Punjabis hence sowing ethnic seeds in Pakistan.

All those Afghan refugees who are born and bred in Pakistan - even they hate and spit venom against Pakistan. Hamid Karzai? who lived his life in Pakistan as a refugee yet bark against Pakistan? ring any bells?

Former Afghanistan President Hamid Karzai 'welcomes' Trump's Pakistan threat

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...-hamid-karzai-welcomes-trumps-pakistan-threat

So, what is the guarantee that they'll become loyal and good citizens of country once granted citizenship? Instead they'll become more rude and arrogant. They will start supporting Pashteen aka PTM dogs. Manzor Pashteen will have hundreds of thousand of followers - a nightmare scenario for our agencies. PTM turned out to be very clever.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1041591978335461376

They put blame on establishment as if establishment wanted to grant citizenship to Afghans, making establishment think that if PTM is opposing this process then it'll be good idea to grant citizenship to Afghans. A clever play of PTM. They desperately want that to happen as it will provide them and achakzai unlimited number of followers and then when they come on streets, western media will portray it as Pakistani Pashtuns protesting against Pakistan and army. The game which western media recently played as well.

Manzoor Pashteen: The young tribesman rattling Pakistan's army

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-43827660

They are called namak haram for a reason. They will never respect Pakistanis as they think of us being their slaves throughout centuries and they themselves being very proud race.

Khan is playing a very dangerous game, knowingly or unknowingly. We should not gamble and put our future generations in difficulty.

When you don't acknowledge your own worth and start appeasing every tom dick or harry, trust me, it invites more enemies....The many Afghans will start moving towards Pakistan as soon as they hear that Pakistan is granting them citizenship.

Humanity is just one factor but it is heavily outgunned by other unsolved variables. Who says we can't send them back? We have sent them back and process is still going on albeit in slow manner....Everything was going fine, we were repatriating refugees and then Khan appeared out of nowhere and played into hands of enemy.

Can anyone remember? When Chaudhry Nisar once said that US is pressurizing Pakistan to not send refugees back? link of it? anyone has?

Provinces and LEAs need to fight back this decision tooth and nail....Khan is asking for suggestions, give him......ASK HIM TO SEND REFUGEES BACK. NOTHING SHORT OF THAT. PERIOD.

@Kabira @Zibago @Maarkhoor @SecularNationalist @TMA

They are "haramis" but you must be "halali" for sure?
Carrying this crooked, inauthentic and shallow mindset is what usually pissess me of about people who oppose this. Bring some neutrality with logic forward and there can be a discussion. But when you start with being biased and carry a mindset that comes from having bugad and hassad against other humans just becaus eyou look at them as lesser beings than yourself. Then well, you lack the brain to have a neutral and open mind towards the problem itself.


And oh btw
Before you people start jumping and calling me an Afghan whatever

My ancestors ruled from the Fort of Sialkot and I speak Potowhari as my mother tongue, having lived for several generations in The Rawalpindi District...

 

[hussain0216]

Yes, far superior

compared to the corrupt filth this dude is a saintt

he probably has good intentions but this is a stupid decision

Bring some neutrality with logic forward and there can be a discussion.

Logic?

They are disloyal to us and we shouldn't make disloyal people citizens

Is that not logical

 

[Awan68]

How many advocate the same solution for Syrian refugees in Europe? That's sending them back and bombing them?


Which Muslim coming from India crossed the Afghan border?


Afghanis will make you remember Mumbai again hopefully.

During partition some groups decided to take the Afghan route cause they thought Afghans will provide assistance on the way on account of bieng muslim brothers etc, they closed the border and many died stranded without food and water.

 

[truthseer]

During partition some groups decided to take the Afghan route cause they thought Afghans will provide assistance on the way on account of bieng muslim brothers etc, they closed the border and many died stranded without food and water.

What Afghan route? Point it out on this map please

 

[Menace2Society]

During partition some groups decided to take the Afghan route cause they thought Afghans will provide assistance on the way on account of bieng muslim brothers etc, they closed the border and many died stranded without food and water.

The hijrat movement was a catalyst to forming the Pakistani identity. These Afghans will pay a price for their crimes forget what usa have done to them.

 

[truthseer]

The hijrat movement was a catalyst to forming the Pakistani identity. These Afghans will pay a price for their crimes forget what usa have done to them.

Who is alive from time of Hijrat movement?

You hate Pathans, that is obvious. Punjabis who are nationalist are the biggest cancer on the Muslim Ummah

 

[TMA]

Aoa

Yup Yahudi laabby and Amreeka have been conspiring to get this done. They know very well that the Afgan's who've been living in Pakistan for 30+ years without having destroyed Pakistan will suddenly all turn into suicide bombers the moment they are granted citizenship.

This thread feels so strange to read.

There was a guy near where I live who was found out to be a bomb maker. He supplied most of the bombs in punjab during the days of increased terrorism. He was a punjabi and a teacher.

Point is that people are putting the whole burden of the 80k+ casualties on Afgan refugees when in reality most of the ones doing the bombing and such were Pakistanis. The actual financiers and planners were foreigners not refugees.

The way everyone seems to be hating on the Afghan refugees, one would think that all the ills faced by Pakistan are rooted in these displaced people - nay vermin to many.

It's like the Afgan refugees have been systematically destroying Pakistan's economy and society and not the locals.

What I find even more amazing and amusing is the Pakistanis who themselves have moved abroad for better opportunities seem to be so hateful towards these people. When the natives from their host countries talk like this about them they don't like it yet when it comes to Afgans whose nation has been in a state of perpetual war for decades, these same are so unsympathetic.

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This thread could be from a KKK or BNP forum with names changed. The only difference would be that than the ones making these accusations would become the accused.

The solution to Pakistani terrorists and criminals is NOT allowing Afghan refugees citizenship.
The solution to Pakistani criminals and terrorists is the Rope.

Even if there was no terrorism from Afghanistan. I would still not advocate to allow them to acquire citizenship as they hold no love for Pakistan, they dont "believe" in Pakistan. Would their loyalty lie with with Pakistan when their is a border skirmish? They are looking out for their material interests and I don't blame them. This is but natural. But that does not mean Pakistan jeopardise her interests. One must stop looking at it from an individual perspective or from a refugee perspective. Look at it from national Pakistani perspective.

They are "haramis" but you must be "halali" for sure?
Carrying this crooked, inauthentic and shallow mindset is what usually pissess me of about people who oppose this. Bring some neutrality with logic forward and there can be a discussion. But when you start with being biased and carry a mindset that comes from having bugad and hassad against other humans just becaus eyou look at them as lesser beings than yourself. Then well, you lack the brain to have a neutral and open mind towards the problem itself.


And oh btw
Before you people start jumping and calling me an Afghan whatever

My ancestors ruled from the Fort of Sialkot and I speak Potowhari as my mother tongue, having lived for several generations in The Rawalpindi District...

It is not their ethnicity that is the issue as sine try to make out. But loyalty.
I don't blame the refugees, I blame Pakistanis who would support such a move.

 

[Menace2Society]

Who is alive from time of Hijrat movement?

You hate Pathans, that is obvious. Punjabis who are nationalist are the biggest cancer on the Muslim Ummah

I hate afghanis. Pakistan has more pathans than Afghanistan. Afghani pathan is a monkey and Pakistani pathan is a champion nuclear power civilization. See the difference? Pashteens like you love ethnic politics just like afghanis failures.

 

[truthseer]

As expected, racism behind Afghan hate

. Afghani pathan is a monkey

 

[SecularNationalist]

Guys, Khan is very stubborn and he will not let it go away easily. I think the real plan of him is to do give nationality to Afghans...

Remember how US wanted Pakistan to don't send refugees back to Afghanistan.

There were Bosnian refugees in Pakistan few decades back. What peaceful and nice people they were. Pakistanis themselves would had advocated for granting them citizenship while on the other hand Afghans.....They have done nothing to win the trust of Pakistanis. Pashtuns suffered the most due to these ungrateful people. Karachi got drug business due to them.

Last time we did mistake is allowing these refugees under guise of humanity to spread all over Pakistan...Result is in front of everyone to see. No province, literally, is happy with them.

Another thing which I concluded from all the debate we had done for few days is that these Afghans have great great pride and arrogance. Just because you grant them Pakistani citizenship doesn't mean they'll become Pakistanis...The most funny thing will be that the same guys who are playing game with us - advocating for granting citizenship to Afghans, these same guys will be first to remind Pakistanis that don't go hard on Afghanistan as its ethnic citizens live in Pakistan who can cause great disturbance in own country - a warlike/insurgency kinda situation.

If haramis got citizenship - We will just hand over a leverage to Afghan government and foreign agencies to destabilize us big time - Enemy is still doing though.

They call Punjabis "Dalkhor" and other nonsense stuff. They lay claim to almost half of our country. They try to divide Pakistanis - how? They pose themselves as Pakistani Pashtuns and start badmouthing Punjabis hence sowing ethnic seeds in Pakistan.

All those Afghan refugees who are born and bred in Pakistan - even they hate and spit venom against Pakistan. Hamid Karzai? who lived his life in Pakistan as a refugee yet bark against Pakistan? ring any bells?

Former Afghanistan President Hamid Karzai 'welcomes' Trump's Pakistan threat

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...-hamid-karzai-welcomes-trumps-pakistan-threat

So, what is the guarantee that they'll become loyal and good citizens of country once granted citizenship? Instead they'll become more rude and arrogant. They will start supporting Pashteen aka PTM dogs. Manzor Pashteen will have hundreds of thousand of followers - a nightmare scenario for our agencies. PTM turned out to be very clever.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1041591978335461376

They put blame on establishment as if establishment wanted to grant citizenship to Afghans, making establishment think that if PTM is opposing this process then it'll be good idea to grant citizenship to Afghans. A clever play of PTM. They desperately want that to happen as it will provide them and achakzai unlimited number of followers and then when they come on streets, western media will portray it as Pakistani Pashtuns protesting against Pakistan and army. The game which western media recently played as well.

Manzoor Pashteen: The young tribesman rattling Pakistan's army

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-43827660

They are called namak haram for a reason. They will never respect Pakistanis as they think of us being their slaves throughout centuries and they themselves being very proud race.

Khan is playing a very dangerous game, knowingly or unknowingly. We should not gamble and put our future generations in difficulty.

When you don't acknowledge your own worth and start appeasing every tom dick or harry, trust me, it invites more enemies....The many Afghans will start moving towards Pakistan as soon as they hear that Pakistan is granting them citizenship.

Humanity is just one factor but it is heavily outgunned by other unsolved variables. Who says we can't send them back? We have sent them back and process is still going on albeit in slow manner....Everything was going fine, we were repatriating refugees and then Khan appeared out of nowhere and played into hands of enemy.

Can anyone remember? When Chaudhry Nisar once said that US is pressurizing Pakistan to not send refugees back? link of it? anyone has?

Provinces and LEAs need to fight back this decision tooth and nail....Khan is asking for suggestions, give him......ASK HIM TO SEND REFUGEES BACK. NOTHING SHORT OF THAT. PERIOD.

@Kabira @Zibago @Maarkhoor @SecularNationalist @TMA

Citizenship to any afghan namak haram will be granted over my dead body.I will pick up my fathers Spas 12 combat shotgun and go to all afghan populated areas in Rawalpindi and Islamabad and shoot them one by one. Citizenship's cannot be granted to dead bodies ,this is the only way as a single individual Pakistani i can stop this non sense.In addition to above imran khan will lost a PTI voter forever.
As far as that humanity bull shit is concerned ,humanity only applies to humans not to sub humans.Those who are known for selling their women for money and thats culturally acceptable(at least thats not culturally acceptable in pakistan),those who are at each others throat since their inception,those who are the pioneers of bacha bazi,those are the world wide exporters of producers of opium and hence are responsible for destroying millions of lives,those who simply dont consider women equal and never involved them in any career and education simply do not fulfill the criteria of being a human being.
Now all low life pakistani afghan sympathizers may be thinking i am a racist but please do tell me what does the majority of afghanistan represent??Our majority of farmers grow wheat,fruit and vegetables to run this country and the afghan farmers grow opium and hashish to support themselves and the economy.The majority of pakistan involve pakistani women in all spheres of life and educate them but in Afghanistan its not considered normal for a woman to go to school or get out from the house to do a job.Here we take our mothers and sisters as a valuable family members and protect them at all costs and afghans simply sell them to the highest bidder(for marriage but actually thats prostitution) which is an insult of humanity.
In 8 out of 10 cases you will get a afghan who is simply not compatible with the pakistani values and pakistani way of life.And when a such a majority get a citizenship you know what will be the consequences.

 

[Psychic]

They are "haramis" but you must be "halali" for sure?
Carrying this crooked, inauthentic and shallow mindset is what usually pissess me of about people who oppose this. Bring some neutrality with logic forward and there can be a discussion. But when you start with being biased and carry a mindset that comes from having bugad and hassad against other humans just becaus eyou look at them as lesser beings than yourself. Then well, you lack the brain to have a neutral and open mind towards the problem itself.


And oh btw
Before you people start jumping and calling me an Afghan whatever

My ancestors ruled from the Fort of Sialkot and I speak Potowhari as my mother tongue, having lived for several generations in The Rawalpindi District...

Itni mohabbat hay aap ko Pakistan se nafrat karne walo ke sath ke ap apne bache ke mu se niwala nikal kar in ko khilana chahtay hain...

Let me inform you that they hate Pakistan because it appears that you have been living under a rock. And FYI, they are some of the worst racists who live in this country. Punjabis are held in contempt by them.

They claim KPK in its entirety and are millions of extra mouths to feed when we can barely feed our own. Once they get green IDs, they will infiltrate govt positions and wreak havoc from within...an ideal situation for NDS/RAW.

Instead of reducing the burden of a large population and providing welfare to our own, you want us to harbor fifth columnists just to show our "open mindedness".
This "open mindedness" of yours will cause irreparable damage to this nation.

When the sh**t hits the fan, you will run but we will stay---and we'll deal with this menace.

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

same Afghanis are supporting PTM and azad pukhtoonistan.