Major DNA ancestry database now correctly lists Pakistanis as Central Asian

[SingHee]

This is about coterminous Pakistan. Yes 'coterminous'.

Yes, specific historic tribes would have been holding geographic regions within natural boundaries, so there certainly will be some effect.

 

[sohail.ishaque]

you have your beliefs , no problem . some people believe they are arab . that is their belief .

What a sad story for you indians.

You are trying to prove us as Indians and we are trying against it. A real humiliating situation indeed.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

What a sad story for you indians.

You are trying to prove us as Indians and we are trying against it. A real humiliating situation indeed.

This says it all.

 

[cloud4000]

What a sad story for you indians.

You are trying to prove us as Indians and we are trying against it. A real humiliating situation indeed.

Indians and Pakistanis are nationalities (and only 70-years-old. at that) and it has nothing to do with DNA. Indians and Pakistanis can share the same DNA but it doesn't mean we are alike. Religion, language, and culture also play a big part.

I sent my DNA to 23andMe.com and got back the result of being South Asian with a smattering of Central Asian blood. I have the blood of invaders, it seems.

Still, it's an interesting exercise or those who want to do it. You may be surprised by who you really are.

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

Nice. Does that mean Pak will be leaving SAARC?

SAARC? who is she?

 

[Hamza913]

Please check below.



Similar to the scientists who created the ancestry database, I prefer to use the word Persianite, which is a more accurate description of linguistics, culture, history and genetic affinity within the Steppe people of Central Asia.

Modern Iranians, similar to Indians, are largely adoptees, but who played a relatively more significant role in the historic formation of the culture.

Thank you for the link, I will read through the contents.

Still waiting for proof of your claims.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Still inaccurate

Iran - Afghanistan - Pakistan - Central Asia - Parts of Arabia all have intermingling

 

[Kabira]

Still inaccurate

Iran - Afghanistan - Pakistan - Central Asia - Parts of Arabia all have intermingling

Iranians are quite different apart from south east Iran, this map is on point. They are using people from different countries as reference population.

 

[SingHee]

Still waiting for proof of your claims.

Trying reading the thread.

If you still don't get it, you're on your own.

That said, I'm not expecting much.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

We're really not, we don't have ancestral origins from Mongolia except for fringe ethnic groups like the Hazara. Mongoloid/Turkic admixture is nearly nil among Pakistanis.

Scythians, Kushans, Bactrians and etc... who were indeed North East Iranic had a genetic impact upon Pakistanis but it pales in comparison to our two main genetic components.

That region of Mongolia, Tarim Basin (Xinjiang), and its neighboring areas were the origins of several groups of people.

Not only Mongols, but the Huns, Turks/Turkics, and Iranic (not Iranian) people originated from this area.

Pakistan’s Karakorum range traces its name to Mongolia’s similarly named place. Translated to ‘black mountains,’ it also features heavily in Turkish history.

References to the ‘blue sky’ in Mongolian and Turkish culture also finds its similarity on ours. This is a holdover from Tengrism. Tengeri is known as the pagan sky god.

Allama Iqbal says in Tulu e Islam in Bange e Dara:

Pare Hai Charakh-E-Neeli Faam Se Manzil Musalman Ki
Sitare Jis Ki Gard-E-Rah Hon, Woh Karwan Tu Hai

The goal of the Muslim lies beyond the blue sky;
You are the caravan, which the stars follow as dust on the road.

Our traditional cultural trade (carpets, furs, caps, jewelry, dyes, cloth, fabrics) are a remnant of our nomadic Iranic roots (which is why they resemble other nomadic origin people like Turks and Mongols.)

Many of the nomadic groups originating from the area of the Altai mountains (Siberia, Mongolia, Kazakhstan, Tarim Basin) shares a similar culture.

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

NW Indians are related to all major ethnic groups of Pakistan, including Baloch and Pashtuns. Though these NW Indians make up a meager 3-4% of the Indian population. You even have the Ror from Haryana (originated from Sindh) that are more West Asian shifted than most Pashtuns.

I am going off of genetic research and results. Greeks, Persians and Turkic People have contributed little to bloodline of mainstream Pakistani ethnic groups. Such influence is only in the case of anomaly groups such as Hazaras, Burusho and Derhwars.

The third most significant component is that of Steppe migrants that came after the Indo-Aryans such as the Kushans, Bactrians, Scythians and others but their contribution pales in comparison to our two main components.


It's actually the opposite, the population exchange that occurred in 1947 slightly brought us genetically closer to Indians as a whole average.

Are u mad? So all those greeks that lived in what is now Pakistan just magically dissapeared? Also there were records of pakhtoons absorbing turkic tribes into our culture. Those must have vanished into thin air too.

 

[Nein]

Well its in the dna majority of Pakistanis can actually trace a central asian ancestor.

Many Pakistanis are pro Turk and Turkic many also have the surname Khan.

So many Turkic Empires ruled Pakistan. Babur also had Ottoman Turk volunteers.

Our history is so interwined so it is stupid to say the relations between Turks and Pakistan is like 60 years old when you have 1000+ history of relations.

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

I am going off of genetic research and results. Greeks, Persians and Turkic People have contributed little to bloodline of mainstream Pakistani ethnic groups. Such influence is only in the case of anomaly groups such as Hazaras, Burusho and Derhwars.

The third most significant component is that of Steppe migrants that came after the Indo-Aryans such as the Kushans, Bactrians, Scythians and others but their contribution pales in comparison to our two main components.


It's actually the opposite, the population exchange that occurred in 1947 slightly brought us genetically closer to Indians as a whole average.

Look at all those Indians and wanna be bolkywood kids that liked your comment

So we have gone from al-bakistani to mountain dwellers

I dont like this sweeping mentality of uniform ethnicity in Pakistan.
Pakistan will always remain a multi-ethnic nation and this diversity is what makes us strong.
Its pathetic to see fellow Pakistani's trying to lump themselves with arabs or persians or central asian.

Preach! Its mostly the Bollywood brainwashed kids and the Indians that are trying their hardest to make Pakistan and Pakistanis look like them. Pakistan is Pakistan, its greek, arab, turkic, chinese, aryan, and south asian.

Is this because of inter-marriage and mixing ?

If Pashtuns of Pakistan are so similar to Pakistani Punjabis, that means they must be genetically different from Pashtuns of Afghanistan now ? Similarly, the Pakistani Punjabis must be different from Indian Punjabis now because of mixing with Pashtuns etc. ?

Yes cause there was one pakhtoon and one punjabi that got married and now all Pakhtoons in Pakistan are different then Afghanistan.

Look at these obsessed aboriginals

 

[GHALIB]

konsa indus mamooo ye to sindh hai

mamu ye batao tum bhi central asia se ? ya greek wala sikandar ?
sindh walo ka tp pata nahi chal raha .

 

[GHALIB]

Look at all those Indians and wanna be bolkywood kids that liked your comment


Preach! Its mostly the Bollywood brainwashed kids and the Indians that are trying their hardest to make Pakistan and Pakistanis look like them. Pakistan is Pakistan, its greek, arab, turkic, chinese, aryan, and south asian.


Yes cause there was one pakhtoon and one punjabi that got married and now all Pakhtoons in Pakistan are different then Afghanistan.

Look at these obsessed aboriginals

that's good , greek, arab, turk ,chinese , aryan , mangol , mixed in pakistan .