Lieutenant Syed Yaser Abbas Nominated for Nishan-e-Haider ( )

[Jango]

SO is the NH going to be politicized?

Is this how much we have fallen?

Fully agree with Irfan Baloch that the terrorists won. Period.

There were other officers who pushed the Z-9's into safe places, pushed them with their hands, not towing vehicles, while under fire. But this was not an extra-ordinary thing to warrant NH.

Nobody is doubting the sacrifice of these young men, but you can't run away from the facts.

What about the numerous Shaheeds in Swat operation?

Dr. Chishti issue, THe MV Albedo issue, the electricity issue, everything has been politicized, but now even the martyrdom of officers is being played with?

 

[I M Sikander]

It is not about politicizing the sacrifices of men in uniform. We salute all those who sacrifice their lives for the country but giving NH is also no joke.

It is the highest military award so if some body is nominated for the award, his achievements should match his predecessors.

I salute Javans like Lieutenant Syed Yaser Abbass who gave away their every thing but NH no simply no.

Mehran Attack was like a slap on PN face. Instead on coming out with proper inquiry and bringing the culprits to books, they are trying to cover up this issue by giving away medals.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Brother! i don't blame you for your perception, because facts was intentionally hided by Navy. Saleem shezad had also victimized on exposing the inside story of mehran base.
Reality is that their was about 10 terrorist who had freely used rocket launcher to destroyed 2 out of 5 Orions worth in Billions.
Their were more than 18 fully weaponed security persons on spot but didn,t come forward to combat. All martyrs including Lt. Yaser was non combating persons who were encounter terrorist and curb to destroy the remaining 3 orions and to make hostage chinese engineers ( their next target to escape like in GHQ attack).
Lt. Yaser was 100% deserve for award because he lead at front and did beyond his duty. This was not PPP intention to degrade Army, but sorry to say that Navy has step down Lt. Yaser to save the Ghaddars involved in Mehran base attack.

fully agree with your analysis re Navy, the base command face palmed big time. lax or nonexistent base security, and ineffective response lead to deaths and destruction of naval personal and assets. at least in GHQ attack all terrorists were either killed or captured.

here many of them escaped and only those died who actually blew themselves up.

 

[Jango]

fully agree with your analysis re Navy, the base command face palmed big time. lax or nonexistent base security, and ineffective response lead to deaths and destruction of naval personal and assets. at least in GHQ attack all terrorists were either killed or captured.

here many of them escaped and only those died who actually blew themselves up.

Procedures or rather the implementation was very lax before these two incidents.

In the GHQ raid, something that might have worked for the army could be that the terrorists were caught while they were trying to enter the outer perimeter, and it was day time. While in naval incident, the terrorists were not detected until they got inside the base and got their positions set up.

In a certain place, oerlikon guns were placed right beside the main gate. PoInt being that nobody expected something like this.

 

[Rank]

and what about the whole NAVY base security awarded ???? NISHANI - E - BEGERATI ?

 

[baqai]

I personally believe that there are more deserving people out there, rest assured i am not taking ANYTHING away from the Shaheed, in a scale from 1-10 for nominations of N-E-H if he was at 7 than there are others who in my opinion are higher. Just my two cents.

 

[seekers]

SO is the NH going to be politicized?

Is this how much we have fallen?

Fully agree with Irfan Baloch that the terrorists won. Period.

There were other officers who pushed the Z-9's into safe places, pushed them with their hands, not towing vehicles, while under fire. But this was not an extra-ordinary thing to warrant NH.

Nobody is doubting the sacrifice of these young men, but you can't run away from the facts.

What about the numerous Shaheeds in Swat operation?

Dr. Chishti issue, THe MV Albedo issue, the electricity issue, everything has been politicized, but now even the martyrdom of officers is being played with?

Do you know the fireman had got back first when encounter by firing from terrorist. This was Lt. Yaser who lead and direct the subordinates to tow other planes and choppers to got away from fire and himself get a machine gun from security guard(he has only pistol) and bravely attack solely on terrorist, who than disperse and not able to target other planes. In 15-20mins. encounter Chinese technician has also got time to escape from the base . At first blast Yaser was 1-2 Km away from spot but had reached in jeep with driver(who also martyr) with in 3 minutes and lead to tackle the attack

 

[Jango]

Do you know the fireman had got back first when encounter by firing from terrorist. This was Lt. Yaser who lead and direct the subordinates to tow other planes and choppers to got away from fire and himself get a machine gun from security guard(he has only pistol) and bravely attack solely on terrorist, who than disperse and not able to target other planes. In 15-20mins. encounter Chinese technician has also got time to escape from the base . At first blast Yaser was 1-2 Km away from spot but had reached in jeep with driver(who also martyr) with in 3 minutes and lead to tackle the attack

Actually, I didn't know that it was his team that towed the helicopters.

There is an image of the helicopter right beside a temporary kind of shelter. Can't find it now though.

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here many of them escaped and only those died who actually blew themselves up.

Weren't 2 terrorists killed?

There are images of the two killed ones.

One has a Levi's top as well.

 

[a. hussain]

ALL those who are becoming experts and think that every one should get Nishan-e-Haider (نشان حیدر ) should first explain why only very very few got Nishan-e-Haider (نشان حیدر ) for their sacrifices in 1965, 1971 and 1999 operations. If we are to go with you logics there will be thousands of personal which deserve Nishan-e-Haider (نشان حیدر ).

Simply putting Why Rashid Minas got Nishan-e-Haider (نشان حیدر ) while Sqn. Ldr. Sarfaraz Ahmed Rafiqui Shaheed only got Hilal-e-Jurat?


His Sabre's guns have stopped firing over enemy area and he would still not leave his wingman alone. Can someone be more courageous then him?


Lest not take the anger on the person which fought and gave the ultimate sacrifice for the nation. Our anger should be directed against those who failed to perform and act not against those who did their best

Agrees with you. He gave his life for the country and it is country's responsibility to realize his sacrifice but awarding medal must be at par with the required standards. Want to add one more point which I believe all Pakistani's normally ignores & that is why do we forget Sq. Leader Buthch who attained shadat while attacking a weapon train in India and his plane got hit during that episode and while he managed to bail out was killed in the air by Indians when he was still coming down in his parachute. Today Indians claim of their Sq leader killed by Pak Army but they forget that they were the one who started it in 1965 when they cowardly killed Sq. Leader Butchh. Still can't believe that Pak Army would have done what Indians propagate on their forums (Only Allah knows the truth). Sorry for going too much tangent.

Thanks