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The Incirlik Air Base
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The Incirlik Air Base, located in southern Turkey, reportedly hosts one of the largest stockpiles of nuclear weapons in Europe.
The Incirlik Air Base, located in southern Turkey, reportedly hosts one of the largest stockpiles of nuclear weapons in Europe. (Associated Press)
Steve Andreasen


On Feb. 14, 1979, less than one month after the shah of Iran’s exile, the U.S. Embassy in Tehran was overrun by Iranian militants. Within hours, it was returned to U.S. hands. Now on notice that our diplomats were stationed on a vulnerable outpost in a sea of anti-Americanism, the Carter administration considered, but rejected, closing the embassy. In October, President Carter permitted the shah – despised by Iranians and the regime that replaced his – to enter the United States. Days later, Iranians climbed the embassy gates again, took the Americans there hostage and demanded the shah’s return, beginning a 444-day crisis.

There are no do-overs in history, but there are lessons. The 1979 hostage crisis should have taught us the importance of proactively responding to obvious threats and removing vulnerable targets — a lesson that should be applied now if there are U.S. nuclear weapons based in Turkey.

After a faction within the Turkish military tried to overthrow the Turkish government last month, one of the many arrested for his alleged role in the attempted coup was a commanding officer at the Incirlik Air Base. That base — according to numerous media reports — is a major NATO installation hosting one of the largest stockpiles of nuclear weapons in Europe.

What if the Turkish base commander at Incirlik had ordered his troops surrounding the perimeter of the base to turn their guns on the U.S. soldiers that reportedly guard U.S. nuclear storage bunkers there?


What if anti-American Turkish protesters, believing the U.S. was behind the coup plot and that it was harboring the coup’s leader (ominously reminiscent of how Iranians felt about America and the shah 37 years ago) decided to march on Incirlik chanting anti-American and anti-Israeli slogans (as has actually happened) and taken over the base?

Leaving aside the coup, what if Islamic State were to attack Incirlik? In March, the Pentagon reportedly ordered military families out of southern Turkey, primarily from Incirlik, due to terrorism-related security concerns.

While we’ve avoided disaster so far, we have ample evidence that the security of U.S. nuclear weapons stored in Turkey can change literally overnight. Now fully aware of the dangers, the Obama administration should remove any remaining nuclear weapons from Turkey – and the next president should remove all U.S. nuclear weapons from Europe.

Granted, as one American analyst has pointed out, any U.S. nuclear weapons stored in Turkey “would be defended by ferociously well-trained and well-equipped American troops. Maintaining control of the weapons would be the top priority if seizure was ever threatened, with all of America’s military power put to the task.” Well, if that’s the case being made to President Obama, he should ask: Why would I or any American president take that risk?


We are in for a long stretch of political uncertainty in Turkey, exacerbated by growing anti-Americanism. Any U.S. nuclear weapons stored there are more likely to complicate than to improve the domestic political currents in play. The U.S. will (and should) remain a strong ally and friend of Turkey, and Turkey will (and should) remain in NATO. It is shared interests, not nuclear sharing, that will keep us together.

Nuclear deterrence does not require the U.S. to store nuclear bombs in Turkey, or elsewhere in Europe. The U.S. has long-range “strategic” nuclear weapons to ward off hostile powers and guarantee the security of all NATO allies. But since the end of the Cold War, most military leaders believe that our short-range “tactical” nuclear weapons based in Europe have virtually no utility, for the simple reason that no U.S. president is likely to use them.

Some may argue that we should not remove nuclear weapons from Turkey because we don’t want to signal lack of confidence in Turkey’s stability; or that we need tactical weapons throughout Europe because we need to bolster NATO members who are worried about Russia.

Now weigh those arguments against the fact that storing tactical nuclear weapons in Turkey and in other NATO nations comes with the increasing risk of vulnerability to an evolving and more deadly terrorist threat, or to domestic unrest. In the wake of an incident at a nuclear storage site — for which the U.S. would be held accountable and suffer long-term consequences with allies — it would be difficult to explain that vulnerable targets were left in place due to a perceived need to reassure our allies.

As was the case in 1979, the warning bells are ringing.

Steve Andreasen was the director for defense policy and arms control on the White House National Security Council staff from 1993 to 2001. He is a consultant to the Nuclear Threat Initiative in Washington, D.C., and teaches at the University of Minnesota’s Humphrey School of Public Affairs

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/
 
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This was published in the Op-Ed section of the WSJ:

Turkey Is No Longer a Reliable Ally

By Steven A. Cook And Michael J. Koplow

The meeting this week between Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and Russian President Vladimir Putin and their vow to expand bilateral relations is the latest sign of deteriorating U.S.Turkish relations since Turkey’s failed coup last month.

The U.S. and Turkey have faced difficult days before, such as after Turkey’s 1974 invasion of Cyprus and the 2003 American invasion of Iraq, yet American and Turkish leaders managed to find their way back. This time will be different.

Since Turkey joined NATO in 1952, the U.S. and Turkey have contributed to each other’s security and interests, and ties were cemented based on shared values as Turkey became more democratic. U.S. forces and tactical nuclear weapons at Turkey’s Incirlik air base represented the American commitment to Turkish security and Ankara’s support to a Washington-led global order.

These days, however, the U.S. and Turkey see eye to eye on very little. The two countries are at odds over Syria and the urgency of removing Syrian President Bashar Assad; over support for Syrian Kurds who, in contrast to the Turks, have proved to be reliable U.S. partners in the fight against Islamic State; over the territorial sovereignty of Iraq; and over continuing sanctions on Iran.

Though American officials privately acknowledge that Mr. Erdogan is “erratic,” they have given the Turkish leader extraordinary leverage over U.S. policy. The U.S. fear is that public pressure will result in even less cooperation from Ankara— especially on Syria.

No issue demonstrates the divergence better than the drama over Incirlik air base. This facility, a little more than 200 miles from Raqqa in Iraq and twice that from Mosul, is important to the coalition against Islamic State. But the Turks forced the U.S. into a yearlong negotiation to use the base to strike the would-be caliphate.

When Ankara finally joined the coalition, it still prioritized its war against the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) and Kurdish nationalism. Turkey has become more focused on Islamic State in the past six months, but only after deadly terrorist attacks in Ankara, Istanbul and other Turkish cities.

The failed coup has caused unprecedented anger in Turkey about Washington that reinforces the bilateral crisis. Hours after the start of the coup attempt, the White House released a statement declaring President Obama’s support for “the democratically elected Government of Turkey.” The next day Mr. Obama reiterated U.S. support for the “democratically elected, civilian Government of Turkey.”

This should have been more than sufficient for Turkish leaders to tamp down the conspiracy theories circulating in the Turkish press and social media accusing the U.S. of complicity in the coup. A disturbingly large number of Turks think Washington is culpable because the U.S., in keeping with the requirements of its extradition treaty with Turkey, has not handed over Fethullah Gulen, the Turkish cleric who lives in Pennsylvania and who Ankara claims masterminded the coup.

Rather than defend Turkey’s relations with the U.S., Mr. Erdogan accused U.S. Army Gen. Joseph Votel of supporting the coup plotters. Pro-government newspapers have accused American generals of smuggling coup plotters out of Turkey. The Turkish press has gone full tilt, asserting that former State Department official Henri Barkey was behind the coup. Now with the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars, Mr. Barkey happened to be attending an academic conference in Istanbul as the coup unfolded.

The U.S. response to this has been timorous, with nary a word of public protest. It would be one thing to overlook the way the Turks have behaved if Ankara were indispensable to U.S. efforts in the Middle East and Central Asia. It is not.

Incirlik’s runways are important. The bombing of Islamic State is an American priority, as is funneling weapons to the Syrian rebels. But both missions could be carried out from elsewhere. The baseless allegations leveled at the U.S. suggest that Mr. Erdogan might rescind American access to the base merely to demonstrate that he can. It would be prudent for the U.S. to develop a plan to redeploy forces outside Turkey, making arrangements to use airstrips in Cyprus, Jordan and the Kurdish Region in Iraq, for example.

All of this should be a clarifying moment for American policy makers, demonstrating that Turkey and the U.S. no longer share values or interests. Rather than overlook Turkish excesses while hoping Mr. Erdogan will come around, it is time to search for more reliable allies.

Mr. Cook is a senior fellow for Middle East and Africa Studies at the Council on Foreign Relations. Mr. Koplow is the policy director at the Israel Policy Forum.
 
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United States of America is a very Reliable Ally.

Choice between

*USA

All of Muslim Ummah, the Turks will choose USA everytime. This is not my opinion. This is what Turks will do. Ask them.
 
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Erdagon is there because turkish people chose him. not the america..

America should not interfere in the internal matters of other counties..

Who says US is interfering in the internal affairs of Turkey? No evidence exists that US had anything to do with the coup. This is the delusion of Erdogan and his supporters. In fact, the US has condemned the coup more than once. That it wasn't loud enough for Erdogan's ears is his problem.
 
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Who says US is interfering in the internal affairs of Turkey? No evidence exists that US had anything to do with the coup. This is the delusion of Erdogan and his supporters. In fact, the US has condemned the coup more than once. That it wasn't loud enough for Erdogan's ears is his problem.

1- Oh boy no evidence you say ha, tell you just a couple of them leaked to the press recently. Gulenists' communication way is a special-programmed software which can be downloaded via bluetooth between the Gulen network, and this software is hosted by the servers in the Usa. Now you tell me, the Usa who controls most of the internet data doesn't know about it ?

2- Gulen movement's head Fetullah Gulen lives in the Usa, according to the Turkish intelligence reports he is oftenly visited by the CIA, and some officials of the Usa. Do you think they just drank tea and chatted ?

3- It's known fact that Usa put inside men to the countries' governance via CIA operations to control American benefits. They did it in Iran. They did it before in Turkey at September 12 coup. Chief of CIA Turkey, Paul Henze during an interview with famous journalist Mehmet Ali Briand in 2003 said that the diplomat who brought the news told him " Your boys have done it " just after coup. Your boys have failed at this time.

4- According to intelligence reports CIA used Gulenists in Turkey to change governments when "needed". In our case Usa just wanted to topple Erdoğan who got stronger than Usa wishes, and they have failed.

Everything is crystal clear. You can keep denying but this coup attempt was CIA's job. No official wil show up and say " The USA is behind it " but you will understand when Turkey - Usa relations got worse and worse in every aspect.

All of Muslim Ummah, the Turks will choose USA everytime. This is not my opinion. This is what Turks will do. Ask them.

Do you know about popularity of yankees in Turkey ? It's subzero.
 
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Who says US is interfering in the internal affairs of Turkey? No evidence exists that US had anything to do with the coup. This is the delusion of Erdogan and his supporters. In fact, the US has condemned the coup more than once. That it wasn't loud enough for Erdogan's ears is his problem.
ahahaha. US politicians didn't say anything supportive while the 'coup' (done by infiltrated Gulenists, not the army) was going on. Only after the 'coup' attempt seemed to be failing the US and EU politicians started to make supportive statements for the Turkish government. So much for 'democracy' value of the US and EU. Even Russia and China made supportive statements faster and even Chinese minister visited in person for support while a US general only came some days ago. The 'undemocratic' Russia even said that it supports the democratically elected government whereas Kerry, in Russia at the same time, said nothing supportive but 'wished for stability and peace'. What kind of bullshit statement is that? Moral of the story: if the current Turkish government was in the interest of the US, the US would be supportive of the govt from the very first minute. If it isn't, it waits for the outcome of the coup (like it happened) and then decides on what to say. Same like in Egypt; Morsi got toppled and Sisi got accepted and supported by the US and EU, simply because he suits US and Israel's interests. This is how much the US and EU value 'democracy'. They swing and twist as they see fit for their own interests ;)

As for the US and EU media, right from the start BS stories emerged saying how a coup would be for the better, Stratfor released the tracking of Erdogan's plane with a few minutes interval on twitter (thus helping the putschists), Erdogan fled Turkey for Germany and is asking for asylum according to one American newspaper (ahahaha) etc.

You know, before all of this happened it was mostly the Akp supporters that were fervent opponents of the US and some of the West European powers. But thanks to this 'coup' attempt all of Turkey's society, be it CHP, MHP, AKP or whatever party, knows the hypocritical face of the US and EU politicians and media once again. Thank the US and EU for uniting us and making our whole society think about who our true friends and allies are. Therefore, talking as if only Erdogan and his supporters are pissed off is pathetically laughable.

For your own sake, if you want to follow more unbiased and more honest news about Turkey, i advise you DailySabah (pro-govt) and HurriyetDailyNews (anti-govt). Otherwise, don't come talking here with bullshit you heard from the pathetic mainstream propaganda machine of the US and EU. It gets tiresome.
 
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1- Oh boy no evidence you say ha, tell you just a couple of them leaked to the press recently. Gulenists' communication way is a special-programmed software which can be downloaded via bluetooth between the Gulen network, and this software is hosted by the servers in the Usa. Now you tell me, the Usa who controls most of the internet data doesn't know about it ?

2- Gulen movement's head Fetullah Gulen lives in the Usa, according to the Turkish intelligence reports he is oftenly visited by the CIA, and some officials of the Usa. Do you think they just drank tea and chatted ?

3- It's known fact that Usa put inside men to the countries' governance via CIA operations to control American benefits. They did it in Iran. They did it before in Turkey at September 12 coup. Chief of CIA Turkey, Paul Henze during an interview with famous journalist Mehmet Ali Briand in 2003 said that the diplomat who brought the news told him " Your boys have done it " just after coup. Your boys have failed at this time.

4- According to intelligence reports CIA used Gulenists in Turkey to change governments when "needed". In our case Usa just wanted to topple Erdoğan who got stronger than Usa wishes, and they have failed.

Everything is crystal clear. You can keep denying but this coup attempt was CIA's job. No official wil show up and say " The USA is behind it " but you will understand when Turkey - Usa relations got worse and worse in every aspect.



Do you know about popularity of yankees in Turkey ? It's subzero.
Also, Russia closed Gulen schools years ago once they found out that CIA personnel were active at their schools. The US and Gulenists are working hand in hand to infiltrate in Turkey and other countries. As for Turkey, Gulenists were trying to infiltrate in every department of the govt and institutes. Had the 'coup' succeeded, the US would have got to have a Turkey that is completely loyal to the US. Who knows maybe in Syria PYD would start connecting the corridor because of the chaos and/or Gulenist control of the army.
 
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Are you implying that NATO can't because Turkey would prevent them from doing so?

Does Turkey has courage and capability to prevent NATO from taking out the nukes out of Turkey?
 
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Are you implying that NATO can't because Turkey would prevent them from doing so?

Does Turkey has courage and capability to prevent NATO from taking out the nukes out of Turkey?

Nope dude, they can't take them because simply they need Turkey.

Correction here..

United States of America is No Longer a Reliable Ally.

Correction ;

United States of America was never a Reliable Ally.
 
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