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Let's get our nuclear weapons out of Turkey

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Why do you think NATO would still need Turkey when Turkey is flirting with SCO, Russia & China?

Today, Turkey is at the same cross roads as Pakistan

The usefulness of both Turkey and Pakistan for NATO are decreasing by the day.
Turkey is not simply at cross roads it is a defining moment. If turkey goes fully monty on being radical, then it will be on way to join their brethren islamic countries. It will simply reinforce the existing age old conviction that Islamic countries can never be secular. Its just a matter of time, that they relapse to their islamic character.

Turkeys membership with NATO or EU is done for. Its just a matter of time, turkey becomes fully hostile against EU.
The entire thing simply looks like a pre world war 1 scenario. If turkey joins china & russia, then the circle will be complete. There will be a chain from russia and china till mediterranean sea arraigned against Europe.

US must be nuts to have nukes in Turkey given the situation.
 
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Are you implying that NATO can't because Turkey would prevent them from doing so?

Does Turkey has courage and capability to prevent NATO from taking out the nukes out of Turkey?
First of all Turkey is a democracy unlike the 1979 revolution that was caused by the huge inequalities in Iran between the Rich about 15% and the rest of the population, so that is out of the question in Turkey..
Second, Turkey is the 2nd largest and powerful nation in NATO after the US.. so yes it can prevent NATO from doing or deciding anything that goes against its interests..
3rdly..More than 40 Nukes are in the hands and under control of the Turkish army, the remaining 30 to 50 are controlled by the US army, and newest US nukes are also planned to be stationed in Turkey, Germany and the Netherlands..To do that with Turkey shows how much confidence the Pentagon and The US government have in Turkey..
In brief the article above is mostly based on false premises..
 
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Second, Turkey is the 2nd largest and powerful nation in NATO after the US.. so yes it can prevent NATO from doing or deciding anything that goes against its interests

Are you sure?
 
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Yes, name another one!
NATO can not have Turkey protecting it in Europe and decide something that goes against Turkey/s interests.. because they are NATO interest at a strategic level..

France, UK, Germany, Italy...

Anyway do you think it would be just one-on-one?
 
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France, UK, Germany, Italy...

Anyway do you think it would be just one-on-one?
The only one who can say something about those nukes is the US, the ones you have mentioned didn't have and still do not have strong enough militaries to defend their own lands without belonging to NATO..Turkey was "The shock troops" of Western Europe against the USSR during the cold war, it was a huge risk for Turkey, that is why I think they are entitled to keep the nukes for themselves..
 
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All of Muslim Ummah, the Turks will choose USA everytime. This is not my opinion. This is what Turks will do. Ask them.
What is your problem with Turks,can you explain cause i have seen some posts of yours where you make the choice for the Turks?
What Muslim Ummah are you talking about,where is this,on mars?
We have one real Muslim ally and that Pakistan(Azerbaijan is little brother),can we trust the rest?
There is no choice to be made from neither side,despite all the trouble we have with each other,the US is our ally for 60+ years,not going to change any soon.
Where were the Muslims when we needed them the most(leave Pakistan out of it)?

Who says US is interfering in the internal affairs of Turkey? No evidence exists that US had anything to do with the coup. This is the delusion of Erdogan and his supporters. In fact, the US has condemned the coup more than once. That it wasn't loud enough for Erdogan's ears is his problem.
Im not an Erdogan supporter,you could say that im anti Erdogan.
You dont know the history of the previous Turkish coups,so why are you talking like you know everything about my country?
Your delusion is obvious,you have something against Turkiye but let me tell you something,we dont care.
As for the nukes,what difference does it make if they are in Turkiye or not,we are allies and in case of a nuclear threat,the US will use them against our enemies.
 
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Where were the Muslims when we needed them the most(leave Pakistan out of it)?

That my friend is the problem that caused the downfall of Muslims, unfortunately.

Im not an Erdogan supporter,you could say that im anti Erdogan.
You dont know the history of the previous Turkish coups,so why are you talking like you know everything about my country?
Your delusion is obvious,you have something against Turkiye but let me tell you something,we dont care.
As for the nukes,what difference does it make if they are in Turkiye or not,we are allies and in case of a nuclear threat,the US will use them against our enemies.

Understanding Indians' obsession with Turkey is easy, Turkey is Pakistan's friend and ally.

Simple as that.
 
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First of all Turkey is a democracy unlike the 1979 revolution that was caused by the huge inequalities in Iran between the Rich about 15% and the rest of the population, so that is out of the question in Turkey..
Second, Turkey is the 2nd largest and powerful nation in NATO after the US.. so yes it can prevent NATO from doing or deciding anything that goes against its interests..
3rdly..More than 40 Nukes are in the hands and under control of the Turkish army, the remaining 30 to 50 are controlled by the US army, and newest US nukes are also planned to be stationed in Turkey, Germany and the Netherlands..To do that with Turkey shows how much confidence the Pentagon and The US government have in Turkey..
In brief the article above is mostly based on false premises..
See,you have the knowledge to speak about the subject.:tup::tup::tup:

That my friend is the problem that caused the downfall of Muslims, unfortunately.
And that is why you(Pakistan) have to look out for your interests only.
Understanding Indians' obsession with Turkey is easy, Turkey is Pakistan's friend and ally.
Most Indians in real have no problem with that but on this forum,some are crazy.
 
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No one should mess with Erdogan, the dude has balls of steel.

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And that is why you(Pakistan) have to look out for your interests only.

The problem my brother, is that, our interests lie with the interests of other muslims, Egypt, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Libya and attempted Turkey should serve as a lesson to us.

United we stand, divided we fall.

Most Indians in real have no problem with that but on this forum,some are crazy.

You have not met most Indians then :)
 
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