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Launch of F-22P at Hudong Shipyard in Shanghai on April 7
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Pakistani frigate launches in China
Jon Grevatt Jane's Asia-Pacific Industry Reporter - Bangkok
Additional reporting by
Farhan Bokhari Correspondent - Islamabad
Key Points
Pakistan's first Sword-class frigate has been launched in China
The frigate construction programme is one of several major defence projects being worked on jointly by the two countries
The first of four F-22P frigates for the Pakistan Navy was launched in Shanghai on 7 April, according to the Xinhua state media agency.
The 2,500-tonne frigates - designated Sword-class by Pakistan - are being built under a USD600 million deal that Pakistan signed with China in 2005.
The first three ships are being built at the Hudong Zhonghua Shipyard in Shanghai, while the fourth, to be delivered in 2013, will be constructed at Pakistan's Karachi Shipyard and Engineering Works under a technology transfer deal.
The frigates are based on a modified Chinese Type 053H3 (Jiangwei II) design. A previous procurement programme for a variant of this vessel was initiated by Pakistan in the mid-1990s but abandoned due to funding concerns.
The frigate construction programme is one of several major defence projects being worked on jointly by the two countries.
Also under development are the JF-17 Thunder fighter aircraft - a joint venture between the Chengdu Aircraft Industry in China and the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) - and the Al Khalid I main battle tank, which was developed by Pakistan's Heavy Industries Taxila with assistance from China.
In addition, the two countries agreed in late 2006 to develop an airborne warning and control system (AWACS) aircraft, which would see collaboration between PAC and the Nanjing Research Institute of Electronics Technology.
Pakistan has also been in discussions with China since 2007 about the acquisition of J-10 fighters, with Pakistan keen to buy between 35 and 40 - or two squadrons - of the aircraft. "Pakistan believes the J-10 will become one of its frontline fighters alongside the new F-16s," a Western diplomat told Jane's . "If the J-10 negotiations succeed, this will be the first time that Pakistan will rely on China for its most advanced planes."
Jon Grevatt Jane's Asia-Pacific Industry Reporter - Bangkok
Additional reporting by
Farhan Bokhari Correspondent - Islamabad
Key Points
Pakistan's first Sword-class frigate has been launched in China
The frigate construction programme is one of several major defence projects being worked on jointly by the two countries
The first of four F-22P frigates for the Pakistan Navy was launched in Shanghai on 7 April, according to the Xinhua state media agency.
The 2,500-tonne frigates - designated Sword-class by Pakistan - are being built under a USD600 million deal that Pakistan signed with China in 2005.
The first three ships are being built at the Hudong Zhonghua Shipyard in Shanghai, while the fourth, to be delivered in 2013, will be constructed at Pakistan's Karachi Shipyard and Engineering Works under a technology transfer deal.
The frigates are based on a modified Chinese Type 053H3 (Jiangwei II) design. A previous procurement programme for a variant of this vessel was initiated by Pakistan in the mid-1990s but abandoned due to funding concerns.
The frigate construction programme is one of several major defence projects being worked on jointly by the two countries.
Also under development are the JF-17 Thunder fighter aircraft - a joint venture between the Chengdu Aircraft Industry in China and the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) - and the Al Khalid I main battle tank, which was developed by Pakistan's Heavy Industries Taxila with assistance from China.
In addition, the two countries agreed in late 2006 to develop an airborne warning and control system (AWACS) aircraft, which would see collaboration between PAC and the Nanjing Research Institute of Electronics Technology.
Pakistan has also been in discussions with China since 2007 about the acquisition of J-10 fighters, with Pakistan keen to buy between 35 and 40 - or two squadrons - of the aircraft. "Pakistan believes the J-10 will become one of its frontline fighters alongside the new F-16s," a Western diplomat told Jane's . "If the J-10 negotiations succeed, this will be the first time that Pakistan will rely on China for its most advanced planes."
Still there's a lot of bs as many internet warriors try to mess up with figures to portray a misleading image. The source remains unreliable and most parts of Pakistani affairs and history are too indo centric, obviously posted by Indians.
Take it with a pinch of salt, but basically its a good source for non Pakistan subjects.
The real source is Kanwa actually. Much better source.
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Kanwa is a paid subscription isnt it!
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Pakistan Gets New Chinese Frigate
BY wendell minnick
Published: 10 Apr 11:57 EDT (07:57 GMT) Print | Email
TAIPEI - Pakistan's first F-22P Sword-class frigate was launched April 7 during a ceremony at the Hudong Zhonghua Shipyard in Shanghai, China.
The PNS Zulifqar was part of a $750 million deal for four frigates, signed in 2005. Three of the ships will be built in Shanghai, while the fourth will be constructed by Pakistan's Karachi Shipyard and Engineering Works under a technology transfer agreement.
"This is a version of the Jiangwei-class frigates the Chinese have been building since the early 1990s," said Bernard "Bud" Cole, author of "The Great Wall at Sea: China's Navy Enters the 21st Century." "The version being built for Pakistan is probably the Jiangwei II-class."
Cole believes it will be very capable but relatively small at 2,250 tons. Though multimission-capable, "armed with sub-sonic anti-ship missiles (C802), a short-range (and historically not very reliable) anti-aircraft missile system, a single 76mm gun, anti-submarine torpedoes," and able to embark the Z-9 helicopter, the new ships will be "nothing that is going to frighten the Indians," he said.
The frigates will join six Amazon-class frigates built in Britain in the early 1970s, which Pakistan acquired in the early 1990s. Pakistan has no destroyers and a small number of Karachi-built Jalalat-class guided-missile patrol crafts, armed with Chinese-made C-801 (Sardine) anti-ship missiles; and three ex-Chinese Huangfeng class (Chinese Project 21) missile boats, armed with C-201anti-ship missiles.
Though Pakistan hopes to advance its domestic shipbuilding capability, there are doubts the construction of only one frigate will help. Ayesha Siddiqa, author of "Military Inc.: Inside Pakistan's Military Economy," does not believe Pakistan will benefit from building only one frigate domestically.
"I have handled the F-22P frigate case and know the details. And this will not enhance Pakistan's shipbuilding capabilities," said Siddiqa, a defense analyst who once served as Pakistan's director of naval research. "This depends on Pakistan's ability to make more ships and market these, which I do not see happening."
Pakistan's President Pervez Musharraf left April 10 for a six-day official visit to China, where he will meet with Chinese President Hu Jintao and Premier Wen Jiabao to discuss defense and economic ties. The Pakistan delegation includes Defense Minister Chaudhry Ahmed Mukhtar and Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi.
Siddiqa said the "mainstay of Pakistan-China relations is defense relations. The economic relations are a new dimension. [And the] sale to Pakistan attracts new buyers for China."
Cole believes the recent frigate sale is "the latest iteration of Chinese arms sales to Pakistan - the most advanced surface combatant sold to Islamabad. It demonstrates China's continued support for Pakistan [and] indicates Beijing's willingness to sell the Jiangwei class, which is advanced over previous sales of warships to other nations that have been limited to the much older, much less-capable Jianghu-class frigate."
Pakistan and China are also working on a joint fighter build program, dubbed the JF-17 Thunder in Pakistan and the Chengdu FC-1 Fierce Dragon (Xiaolong) in China.
Despite Pakistan's continued and growing relationship with China, the United States continues to work closely with the Pakistan military. On the same day the F-22P was launched in Shanghai, the Pakistan Air Force took delivery of new Lockheed Martin TPS-77 3-D, transportable, long-range air surveillance radars. Pakistan ordered six radars in 2005 in an $89 million U.S. Foreign Military Sales contract.
Pakistan Gets New Chinese Frigate - Defense News
Two different type of analysis. Any comments please.
BY wendell minnick
Published: 10 Apr 11:57 EDT (07:57 GMT) Print | Email
TAIPEI - Pakistan's first F-22P Sword-class frigate was launched April 7 during a ceremony at the Hudong Zhonghua Shipyard in Shanghai, China.
The PNS Zulifqar was part of a $750 million deal for four frigates, signed in 2005. Three of the ships will be built in Shanghai, while the fourth will be constructed by Pakistan's Karachi Shipyard and Engineering Works under a technology transfer agreement.
"This is a version of the Jiangwei-class frigates the Chinese have been building since the early 1990s," said Bernard "Bud" Cole, author of "The Great Wall at Sea: China's Navy Enters the 21st Century." "The version being built for Pakistan is probably the Jiangwei II-class."
Cole believes it will be very capable but relatively small at 2,250 tons. Though multimission-capable, "armed with sub-sonic anti-ship missiles (C802), a short-range (and historically not very reliable) anti-aircraft missile system, a single 76mm gun, anti-submarine torpedoes," and able to embark the Z-9 helicopter, the new ships will be "nothing that is going to frighten the Indians," he said.
The frigates will join six Amazon-class frigates built in Britain in the early 1970s, which Pakistan acquired in the early 1990s. Pakistan has no destroyers and a small number of Karachi-built Jalalat-class guided-missile patrol crafts, armed with Chinese-made C-801 (Sardine) anti-ship missiles; and three ex-Chinese Huangfeng class (Chinese Project 21) missile boats, armed with C-201anti-ship missiles.
Though Pakistan hopes to advance its domestic shipbuilding capability, there are doubts the construction of only one frigate will help. Ayesha Siddiqa, author of "Military Inc.: Inside Pakistan's Military Economy," does not believe Pakistan will benefit from building only one frigate domestically.
"I have handled the F-22P frigate case and know the details. And this will not enhance Pakistan's shipbuilding capabilities," said Siddiqa, a defense analyst who once served as Pakistan's director of naval research. "This depends on Pakistan's ability to make more ships and market these, which I do not see happening."
Pakistan's President Pervez Musharraf left April 10 for a six-day official visit to China, where he will meet with Chinese President Hu Jintao and Premier Wen Jiabao to discuss defense and economic ties. The Pakistan delegation includes Defense Minister Chaudhry Ahmed Mukhtar and Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi.
Siddiqa said the "mainstay of Pakistan-China relations is defense relations. The economic relations are a new dimension. [And the] sale to Pakistan attracts new buyers for China."
Cole believes the recent frigate sale is "the latest iteration of Chinese arms sales to Pakistan - the most advanced surface combatant sold to Islamabad. It demonstrates China's continued support for Pakistan [and] indicates Beijing's willingness to sell the Jiangwei class, which is advanced over previous sales of warships to other nations that have been limited to the much older, much less-capable Jianghu-class frigate."
Pakistan and China are also working on a joint fighter build program, dubbed the JF-17 Thunder in Pakistan and the Chengdu FC-1 Fierce Dragon (Xiaolong) in China.
Despite Pakistan's continued and growing relationship with China, the United States continues to work closely with the Pakistan military. On the same day the F-22P was launched in Shanghai, the Pakistan Air Force took delivery of new Lockheed Martin TPS-77 3-D, transportable, long-range air surveillance radars. Pakistan ordered six radars in 2005 in an $89 million U.S. Foreign Military Sales contract.
Pakistan Gets New Chinese Frigate - Defense News
Two different type of analysis. Any comments please.
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Good news.
The Navy must be strengthened, more frigate's, submarine's, destroyer's are the necessities in todays geopolitical conditions. Pakistan must, make its naval power stronger its important. Given the sad fact that the Navy has been neglected for so long , Pakistan Navy needs to act fast to emerge as a strong navel power. 
The Navy must be strengthened, more frigate's, submarine's, destroyer's are the necessities in todays geopolitical conditions. Pakistan must, make its naval power stronger its important. Given the sad fact that the Navy has been neglected for so long , Pakistan Navy needs to act fast to emerge as a strong navel power. 
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Actually, there are quite a few Pakistani editors on Wikipedia. I have been part of Wiki project: Pakistan since 2004 (senior member) mostly linked to defence related topics.
Pakistani editors have constantly tried to debate over the bias content related to Pakistan and clear it up, most of em ended up with the Arbitration committee of Wikipedia. I'm personally responsible of getting atleast 3 indian editors banned from Wiki but I stopped editing on Wiki in 2007 because of constant debating over and over again with Indian editors.
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^^^^Any one can go on Wikipedia and write an article. Wikipedia is not a good place to get information. First its really bias and second only 80% of the stuff on their is right.
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