Lahore Karachi motorway most expensive in world

[Muhammad Omar]

The green line is of Motor way and Blue is of National highway

Motorway is touching those cities where there is no National highway Plus when the Pakistani and Chinese Trucks gonna come together it's gonna be hell of a load on National highway that why Motorway is important

 

[Dubious]

Nops, a woman who usually speaks and thinks from wrong side....Btw tigeresses are known for not using common sense, thats why bulk of the hunting is done by tigers

and well being a human isnt part of your nature I guess since you prefer referring to yourself as a tiger

@WebMaster @Horus @WAJsal @Slav Defence @Manticore @Jungibaaz @Jango it isnt his first time nor his first thread where he has shown off his male hormones of not withstanding a woman capable of questioning his masters!

 

[Sugarcane]

So currently (without this motorway), 50% of pakistan (karachi) consumes 100% of the country's imports, since you are implying that lahore is not connected to karachi ?

The already existing national highway is what currently connects lahore to karachi by road and of course, there's the not so efficient railway.

That's how all of the goods imported through karachi's ports goes to the rest of the country.

Now I don't know what this new motorway project actually is. Whether it's upgrading of the existing highway or a new one built from scratch. But unless they can show a feasibility study that shows that existing network is already over-burdened or a demand forecast that exceeds current capacity, there really is no need for this motorway, especially if its a completely new one. Usually what they do in such projects is simple, rig the demand projections in feasibility studies, problem solved.

Do you really think that current highway is enough? I mean seriously?

 

[Dubious]

The green line is of Motor way and Blue is of National highway

Motorway is touching those cities where there is no National highway Plus when the Pakistani and Chinese Trucks gonna come together it's gonna be hell of a load on National highway that why Motorway is important

how much will it cost to maintain these highways? do we generate enough to do so?

 

[saiyan0321]

They are already connected, read my other post above...

Or else how do you think the major textile export industry in punjab exports its goods and the rest of the country imports goods using karachi's ports ? It's the national highway.



I am objecting the road. Read above posts....

Of course they are already connected as lahore and sheikhupura were connected through gt road national road before motorway 2. However the national roads are often a disgrace on the name of roads ( previous govt faults which were ironically theirs) and these motorways provide a very quick passageway for transportation. I know you will say that national roads must be upgraded which they should but greater number of roads means greater accessibility and more connectivity. The cities sorrounding lahore became very connected after motorway to such an extent that lahore has a massive commuting population that enter and leave using both access points and both these points are choked with people leaving and entering...

The motorway must have various connection points towards various cities so that a better connective connection is created...

Of course you will say priorities and you will be right but I will say part of priorities and I will also be right but that doesn't mean they say road and leave .. They need to give education and health just as much priority and need to focus on these section as south Punjab and north sindh are in a bad state and again I will raise the point of incompetent provincial govts as well.

 

[Zaneesh852]

and well being a human isnt part of your nature I guess since you prefer referring to yourself as a tiger

@WebMaster @Horus @WAJsal @Slav Defence @Manticore @Jungibaaz @Jango it isnt his first time nor his first thread where he has shown off his male hormones of not withstanding a woman capable of questioning his masters!

Well lets just say I only argue with people who have enough background and understanding of discussion, not driven by blind and raw emos.

 

[Faiez]

The green line is of Motor way and Blue is of National highway

Motorway is touching those cities where there is no National highway Plus when the Pakistani and Chinese Trucks gonna come together it's gonna be hell of a load on National highway that why Motorway is important

Show me some demand forecasts then. Prove that the existing highway is insufficient.

Also, why not simply upgrade the existing network (which will cost significantly less) and keep expanding only when demand exceeds capacity.

 

[saiyan0321]

no one is objecting to the road except those cheering for it are ASSUMING IT...Everyone is objecting to the costs!

And as I said in my posts if costs are higher than they should be than te govt is answerable and need to bring proper cost cutting methods make sure we build and maintain these roads at an economical cost that will allow quality as well.

 

[Faiez]

Of course you will say priorities and you will be right but I will say part of priorities and I will also be right but that doesn't mean they say road and leave .. They need to give education and health just as much priority and need to focus on these section as south Punjab and north sindh are in a bad state and again I will raise the point of incompetent provincial govts as well.

No I'm not going to say priorities. I don't believe in a welfare state, I don't believe in big government. I'm a libertarian capitalist. To hell with socialism.

My point is, that if what you're saying is correct (that this new motorway will be better), then prove it on paper, show some numbers, give me traffic statistics, demand forecasts and prove that this investment will give a higher return than simply upgrading existing national highway.

 

[Slav Defence]

Behave yourselves.Don't target any poster by gender.

 

[Dubious]

And as I said in my posts if costs are higher than they should be than te govt is answerable and need to bring proper cost cutting methods make sure we build and maintain these roads at an economical cost that will allow quality as well.

theoretically, yes...but the motorways we already have, havent been maintained as per theory

 

[Faiez]

Do you really think that current highway is enough? I mean seriously?

Please prove me wrong then. And use economics, not emotions

 

[Muhammad Omar]

how much will it cost to maintain these highways? do we generate enough to do so?

Yes We do generate enough

M-2 got operational in 1997 and Overlay and renovation is started in 2014 after 17 years was it difficult to maintain over all these years? NO

every car truck and bus that uses Motorway gives toll tax and u know how much they are charging so it's easy to maintain these motorways

 

[Dubious]

Of course they are already connected as lahore and sheikhupura were connected through gt road national road before motorway 2. However the national roads are often a disgrace on the name of roads ( previous govt faults which were ironically theirs) and these motorways provide a very quick passageway for transportation. I know you will say that national roads must be upgraded which they should but greater number of roads means greater accessibility and more connectivity. The cities sorrounding lahore became very connected after motorway to such an extent that lahore has a massive commuting population that enter and leave using both access points and both these points are choked with people leaving and entering...

The motorway must have various connection points towards various cities so that a better connective connection is created...

Of course you will say priorities and you will be right but I will say part of priorities and I will also be right but that doesn't mean they say road and leave .. They need to give education and health just as much priority and need to focus on these section as south Punjab and north sindh are in a bad state and again I will raise the point of incompetent provincial govts as well.

would fixing the old roads have been cheaper than making a whole new one?

 

[Faiez]

theoretically, yes...but the motorways we already have, havent been maintained as per theory

It's not about maintenance, it's the fact that the M2 is still underutilized to this day. I'm pretty sure the same will be with this new motorway.