Kashmiris Observe Right To Self-Determination Day | Indian Occupied Kashmir | White News Urdu

[Markhoor420]

Pakistan observes the Kashmir Solidarity Day on this day to express support for the Kashmiri brethren and remind the international community of its commitments made to the people of Indian Illegally Occupied Jammu and Kashmir (IIoJ&K). The day will be marked by various activities including rallies, seminars and conferences across the world to remind the UN that it must implement its relevant resolutions to settle the Kashmir dispute to save the Kashmiris from Indian brutalities.

President Dr Arif Alvi has said no Indian attempt will succeed in misleading the international community and glossing over India’s state-terrorism being perpetrated with shameless impunity in IIOJK.

Mushal Malik said: * Harassment of Kashmiri girls by editing their pictures and selling them to **** sites is very common.

𝐒𝐮𝐥𝐭𝐚𝐧 𝐌𝐚𝐡𝐦𝐨𝐨𝐝 𝐂𝐡𝐚𝐮𝐝𝐡𝐫𝐲 𝐡𝐚𝐬 𝐬𝐚𝐢𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭: * 4.2 million fake domiciles were given to Hindus to settle more and more RSS and Hindus in Kashmir. * Today, international public opinion is in favor of Kashmir. * Every oppression of Modi against Kashmiris or minorities in India has been exposed. * We have to maximize our efforts to help the Kashmiris. Sardar Abdul Qayyum Niazi has said that: * By removing article 370, the Modi government has* violated the resolutions* of the UN. * Now educated and elite Kashmiri people are offering sacrifice. * Syed Gillani has said that we are Pakistani and Pakistan belongs to us. Syed Fakhar Imam said * The international community has acknowledged the Kashmir dispute. Sobia Kamal said * Major Countries and human rights organizations should take notice of what is happening in Kashmir. People are living miserable life there. * All credit goes to Kashmiris for how long they have stood against Indian oppression. Mushal Malik said: * Harassment of Kashmiri girls by editing their pictures and selling them to **** sites is very common

Complete Details Here:

 

[Meliodas]

Pakistan observes the Kashmir Solidarity Day on this day to express support for the Kashmiri brethren and remind the international community of its commitments made to the people of Indian Illegally Occupied Jammu and Kashmir (IIoJ&K). The day will be marked by various activities including rallies, seminars and conferences across the world to remind the UN that it must implement its relevant resolutions to settle the Kashmir dispute to save the Kashmiris from Indian brutalities.

President Dr Arif Alvi has said no Indian attempt will succeed in misleading the international community and glossing over India’s state-terrorism being perpetrated with shameless impunity in IIOJK.

Mushal Malik said: * Harassment of Kashmiri girls by editing their pictures and selling them to **** sites is very common.

𝐒𝐮𝐥𝐭𝐚𝐧 𝐌𝐚𝐡𝐦𝐨𝐨𝐝 𝐂𝐡𝐚𝐮𝐝𝐡𝐫𝐲 𝐡𝐚𝐬 𝐬𝐚𝐢𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭: * 4.2 million fake domiciles were given to Hindus to settle more and more RSS and Hindus in Kashmir. * Today, international public opinion is in favor of Kashmir. * Every oppression of Modi against Kashmiris or minorities in India has been exposed. * We have to maximize our efforts to help the Kashmiris. Sardar Abdul Qayyum Niazi has said that: * By removing article 370, the Modi government has* violated the resolutions* of the UN. * Now educated and elite Kashmiri people are offering sacrifice. * Syed Gillani has said that we are Pakistani and Pakistan belongs to us. Syed Fakhar Imam said * The international community has acknowledged the Kashmir dispute. Sobia Kamal said * Major Countries and human rights organizations should take notice of what is happening in Kashmir. People are living miserable life there. * All credit goes to Kashmiris for how long they have stood against Indian oppression. Mushal Malik said: * Harassment of Kashmiri girls by editing their pictures and selling them to **** sites is very common

Complete Details Here:

If they had not licked Abdullah's boots they wouldn't be needing to observe the day rather enjoy self determination in real.

 

[arjunk]

* Harassment of Kashmiri girls by editing their pictures and selling them to **** sites is very common.

Unsurprising. After an 8 year old was recently raped Indians were searching her name on **** sites and made it the number one trending search. What else do you expect from a nation of degenerates.

 

[Silverblaze]

If they had not licked Abdullah's boots they wouldn't be needing to observe the day rather enjoy self determination in real.

mohtaram

This is where most Pakistanis are wrong. It was the Muslim league leadership that said that it was the princely state ruler's right to choose where he wants to go. And then the leadership totally ignored repeated pleas from muslim conference to change this decision. Even during the war the leadership refused to let go hyderabad deccan in place of kashmir. The result is this.

 

[MultaniGuy]

mohtaram

This is where most Pakistanis are wrong. It was the Muslim league leadership that said that it was the princely state ruler's right to choose where he wants to go. And then the leadership totally ignored repeated pleas from muslim conference to change this decision. Even during the war the leadership refused to let go hyderabad deccan in place of kashmir. The result is this.

Yeah, but Louis Mountbatten of Burma told the leaders of the Princely states to take the people of the princely state into consideration. A Plebiscite is supposed to be held.

The Kashmiri Maharaja was being dishonest. He did not take Demographics or Geography into consideation.

He also signed a standstill agreement before doing any communications with India back in 1947.

 

[Silverblaze]

Yeah, but Louis Mountbatten of Burma told the leaders of the Princely states to take the people of the princely state into consideration. A Plebiscite is supposed to be held.

The Kashmiri Maharaja was being dishonest. He did not take Demographics or Geography into consideation.

He also signed a standstill agreement before doing any communications with India back in 1947.

Mohtaram

A hindu is your khula enemy, there is little to discuss about them.

The problem was simple, league leadership said ruler must decide, hindu nehru actually said its the people who must decide.

How can you let the ruler decide about an area that is 70 km away from you military headquarter, has your major rivers flowing through it and above all its people are 80% muslim more than the percentage of Karachi and Lahore at that time. Not even a muslim ruler should have been trusted with this sensitive decision let alone this war criminal hindu.

Even the killings at bagh and poonch right after two weeks of independence did not change the leagues decision despite pleas from Muslim conference. Pakistan assessed around 8th sept 47 that this hindu war criminal will accede to india so Pakistan accepted Junagadh's accession and india offered a plebiscite around 27 sept 47, the league leadership refused. The phrase used by the leadership was "Kashmir will fall right in our hands"

Even during the war on nov 1st 47, there was a chance had Pakistan agreed to hyderabad and Junagadh to go to india, kashmir could have gone to Pakistan. The leadership once again refused.

The poorly equipped army and barefoot rebels realized this blunder and did what they could and we owe a lot to tribals, azad forces, GB scouts despite treason from Punjab police when they replaced proper rifles with poor frontier ones, Pakistan's frontiers were extended at a cost of thousands of lives.

It is said that some characters behind this were actually making money from hyderabad deccan to not to exchange Kashmir with it. Malik Ghulam Muhammad was one such character.

Other decisions like delaying military involvement and poor civil leadership over all led to what it is today.

Hindus know that after asking for partition of Punjab and Bangal( two muslim majority provinces) and making it clear to Pakistan that only muslim areas should go to Pakistan, they have no claim over Kashmir. They are just occupying it by force.

So, now Kashmir can only be taken back through force. If Pakistan leadership wants it they have to have numerical advantage over india at least in air and naval theatres or with an external power also helping Pakistan directly and militarily. There is no other solution.

 

[MultaniGuy]

Mohtaram

A hindu is your khula enemy, there is little to discuss about them.

The problem was simple, league leadership said ruler must decide, hindu nehru actually said its the people who must decide.

How can you let the ruler decide about an area that is 70 km away from you military headquarter, has your major rivers flowing through it and above all its people are 80% muslim more than the percentage of Karachi and Lahore at that time. Not even a muslim ruler should have been trusted with this sensitive decision let alone this war criminal hindu.

Even the killings at bagh and poonch right after two weeks of independence did not change the leagues decision despite pleas from Muslim conference. Pakistan assessed around 8th sept 47 that this hindu war criminal will accede to india so Pakistan accepted Junagadh's accession and india offered a plebiscite around 27 sept 47, the league leadership refused. The phrase used by the leadership was "Kashmir will fall right in our hands"

Even during the war on nov 1st 47, there was a chance had Pakistan agreed to hyderabad and Junagadh to go to india, kashmir could have gone to Pakistan. The leadership once again refused.

The poorly equipped army and barefoot rebels realized this blunder and did what they could and we owe a lot to tribals, azad forces, GB scouts despite treason from Punjab police when they replaced proper rifles with poor frontier ones, Pakistan's frontiers were extended at a cost of thousands of lives.

It is said that some characters behind this were actually making money from hyderabad deccan to not to exchange Kashmir with it. Malik Ghulam Muhammad was one such character.

Other decisions like delaying military involvement and poor civil leadership over all led to what it is today.

Hindus know that after asking for partition of Punjab and Bangal( two muslim majority provinces) and making it clear to Pakistan that only muslim areas should go to Pakistan, they have no claim over Kashmir. They are just occupying it by force.

So, now Kashmir can only be taken back through force. If Pakistan leadership wants it they have to have numerical advantage over india at least in air and naval theatres or with an external power also helping Pakistan directly and militarily. There is no other solution.

Regardless of what you said, there is supposed to be a plebiscite done in Kashmir to decide the destiny of the land. Even Nehru promised the world about this.

About taking Kashmir back by force, I too am of this opinion as well because if the Kashmir matter was to be solved it could be solved within a matter of seconds back in 1947.

Indian occupied Jammu and Kashmir will have to be taken by force.

Hopefully there will be a war that will include Pakistan and China against India once and for all to finish this matter.

China also claims South Tibet what India calls Arunachal Pradesh.

So we are not the only ones with territorial disputes with India.

 

[Silverblaze]

Regardless of what you said, there is supposed to be a plebiscite done in Kashmir to decide the destiny of the land.

Mohtaram

A plebiscite cannot be held unless an external power comes to help Kashmiris.

Who has the power to do this? Pakistan? May be in the future. Nobody knows.

Forget the hindus, Pakistan leadership refused any type of referendum in 47 and now solution is force to achieve whatever you want. Its a realistic scenario. Kashmir is a war trophy and a colony for hindus. No colonial power has given away colonies without war.

Its Pakistan's leadership call what to do. If they can make Pakistan able to negate hindu india's military preponderance or get China involved to tightly strangle india, Kashmir is ours.

 

[peagle]

mohtaram

This is where most Pakistanis are wrong. It was the Muslim league leadership that said that it was the princely state ruler's right to choose where he wants to go. And then the leadership totally ignored repeated pleas from muslim conference to change this decision. Even during the war the leadership refused to let go hyderabad deccan in place of kashmir. The result is this.

This Hyderabad for Kashmir lie has been repeated for so long people have started to believe it as the truth.

Things were not so simple, lets not judge history with the knowledge and false information that has been fed to us through history. Congress party was institutionally powerful with dozens of top tier leadership. We had Just Jinnah, then Liaquat Sahib and everyone else was a regional leader, it makes a difference because it limits the resources you have to negotiate.

Pakistan gained independence only after the British realised there is no other way, and only gave little over couple of months notice, take it or lump it. Jinnah knew he was sick, his options were limited. Plus, Nehru was a Kashmiri pundit, he was going to do all he could to keep hold of Kashmir. They still only control 50% of Jammu and Kashmir, 30% is under Pakistani control and almost 20% under Chinese control. For India, that is lose.

Nehru was in a relationship with Mountbatten's wife Edwina, that's a lot of leverage, and he and Mountbatten were working against Jinnah sahib. Mountbatten allowed Nehru to see the boundary award before it was announced, that's why Gurdaspur ended up with India, even though it had a Muslim majority, but it was also the only land route from India into Kashmir.

Please, let's view history with some understanding and recognise the lies we have been fed, those lies do not hold up to fair evaluation.

 

[Rollno21]

This Hyderabad for Kashmir lie has been repeated for so long people have started to believe it as the truth.

Things were not so simple, lets not judge history with the knowledge and false information that has been fed to us through history. Congress party was institutionally powerful with dozens of top tier leadership. We had Just Jinnah, then Liaquat Sahib and everyone else was a regional leader, it makes a difference because it limits the resources you have to negotiate.

Pakistan gained independence only after the British realised there is no other way, and only gave little over couple of months notice, take it or lump it. Jinnah knew he was sick, his options were limited. Plus, Nehru was a Kashmiri pundit, he was going to do all he could to keep hold of Kashmir. They still only control 50% of Jammu and Kashmir, 30% is under Pakistani control and almost 20% under Chinese control. For India, that is lose.

. Mountbatten allowed Nehru to see the boundary award before it was announced, that's why Gurdaspur ended up with India, even though it had a Muslim majority, but it was also the only land route from India into Kashmir.

Please, let's view history with some understanding and recognise the lies we have been fed, those lies do not hold up to fair evaluation.

Nehru was in a relationship with Mountbatten's wife Edwina, that's a lot of leverage, and he and Mountbatten were working against Jinnah sahib

This cracked me up ,seriously wife has illicit relationship with lover and the lover has leverage on husband.

 

[Silverblaze]

This Hyderabad for Kashmir lie has been repeated for so long people have started to believe it as the truth.

Things were not so simple, lets not judge history with the knowledge and false information that has been fed to us through history. Congress party was institutionally powerful with dozens of top tier leadership. We had Just Jinnah, then Liaquat Sahib and everyone else was a regional leader, it makes a difference because it limits the resources you have to negotiate.

Pakistan gained independence only after the British realised there is no other way, and only gave little over couple of months notice, take it or lump it. Jinnah knew he was sick, his options were limited. Plus, Nehru was a Kashmiri pundit, he was going to do all he could to keep hold of Kashmir. They still only control 50% of Jammu and Kashmir, 30% is under Pakistani control and almost 20% under Chinese control. For India, that is lose.

Nehru was in a relationship with Mountbatten's wife Edwina, that's a lot of leverage, and he and Mountbatten were working against Jinnah sahib. Mountbatten allowed Nehru to see the boundary award before it was announced, that's why Gurdaspur ended up with India, even though it had a Muslim majority, but it was also the only land route from India into Kashmir.

Please, let's view history with some understanding and recognise the lies we have been fed, those lies do not hold up to fair evaluation.

Mohtaram

thanks for your reply. Mountbatten had a personal grudge against Mr. Jinnah and hindus were total enemies, but,

Facts cannot be changed. It was the muslim league leadership that demanded that the princely states' rulers' will decide where to go. This was in direct violation of our own two nation theory.

The fate of Kashmir which was 70 km from rawalpindi HQ, having major rivers flowing into Pakistan and having 80% muslims which was more than the percentage of Karachi and Lahore was asked to be decided by a hindu ruler who was a known anti muslim and against whom the league campaigned many times.

You can read the letter from Muslim conference to Liaquat Ali where they plead with him to change Mr. Jinnah's policy regarding princely states referring to the killings taking place in poonch and bagh. The muslim league leadership didnt agree.

Even after accepting junagadh accession and being offered a plebiscite in all princely states at around Sep 27, 47, the league leadership refused. Even Khurshid Anwar Mr. Jinnah's personal assistant wrote a letter around october 47, describing gloomy situation in Kashmir and recommended military support.

Pakistan did offer Junagadh during the war around 1st nov 47, but the question stuck on hyderabad.

These are all facts. One more tale of tragedy may be which is not well known. Around 15th august 47, india integrated around 550 states, Pakistan had none. This should have made the leadership realize that its not going well.

We owe a lot to the azad forces, tribals, and GB scouts who sacrificed thousands to get what we have today. I believe that politicians and civil bureaucrats of Pakistan should never be allowed to make strategic decisions as they will do what was done in the case for Kashmir.

 

[MultaniGuy]

Mohtaram

thanks for your reply. Mountbatten had a personal grudge against Mr. Jinnah and hindus were total enemies, but,

Facts cannot be changed. It was the muslim league leadership that demanded that the princely states' rulers' will decide where to go. This was in direct violation of our own two nation theory.

The fate of Kashmir which was 70 km from rawalpindi HQ, having major rivers flowing into Pakistan and having 80% muslims which was more than the percentage of Karachi and Lahore was asked to be decided by a hindu ruler who was a known anti muslim and against whom the league campaigned many times.

You can read the letter from Muslim conference to Liaquat Ali where they plead with him to change Mr. Jinnah's policy regarding princely states referring to the killings taking place in poonch and bagh. The muslim league leadership didnt agree.

Even after accepting junagadh accession and being offered a plebiscite in all princely states at around Sep 27, 47, the league leadership refused. Even Khurshid Anwar Mr. Jinnah's personal assistant wrote a letter around october 47, describing gloomy situation in Kashmir and recommended military support.

Pakistan did offer Junagadh during the war around 1st nov 47, but the question stuck on hyderabad.

These are all facts. One more tale of tragedy may be which is not well known. Around 15th august 47, india integrated around 550 states, Pakistan had none. This should have made the leadership realize that its not going well.

We owe a lot to the azad forces, tribals, and GB scouts who sacrificed thousands to get what we have today. I believe that politicians and civil bureaucrats of Pakistan should never be allowed to make strategic decisions as they will do what was done in the case for Kashmir.

Are you even a Pakistani? Don't know where you are getting your information from.

A lot of it is nonsense.

What I know is that Louis Muntbatten of Burma said the Princely states can decide either Pakistan or India, then a plebiscite needs to be held to determine the destiny of the land you moron.

Stop confusing the people with crap.

Even Nehru promised the world about this.

Then India walked away from plebiscite option ever since and wants to hold the land through force.

Today Indian occupied Jammu and Kashmir is 70% Muslim majority.

 

[SuvarnaTeja]

Nehru was in a relationship with Mountbatten's wife Edwina, that's a lot of leverage, and he and Mountbatten were working against Jinnah sahib. Mountbatten allowed Nehru to see the boundary award before it was announced, that's why Gurdaspur ended up with India, even though it had a Muslim majority, but it was also the only land route from India into Kashmir.

Wrong. Mountbatten was using his wife to have an affair with Nehru to build leverage over Nehru.

Jinnah was never interested in Kashmir. His priority was Kalat & Baluchistan.

 

[Silverblaze]

Are you even a Pakistani? Don't know where you are getting your information from.

A lot of it is nonsense.

What I know is that Louis Muntbatten of Burma said the Princely states can decide either Pakistan or India, then a plebiscite needs to be held to determine the destiny of the land you moron.

Stop confusing the people with crap.

Even Nehru promised the world about this.

Then India walked away from plebiscite option ever since and wants to hold the land through force.

Today Indian occupied Jammu and Kashmir is 70% Muslim majority.

Mohtaram

There is no need to get personal. Dont have facts to back your arguments then you can read history. Take Allah SWT's name and start. Many books have been written by both British and Pakistani authors. Calling people names will not change facts. Senior members can verify whatever I have said.

Hindu leadership letters revealed that they never planned to hold a referendum from day one thats it.

A demographic genocide is taking place and only Kashmir Vale is now muslim majority. If we refuse to learn from the past we will never rectify mistakes.

Now only force will determine the outcome. If you do not like my discussion you can chose not to engage with me.

thanks

 

[Black Tornado]

that's why Gurdaspur ended up with India, even though it had a Muslim majority

Tharparkar a hindu majority area ended up with Pakistan as well, so?