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Kashmir The Freedom of Struggle

IAS, isnt an easy exam to pass, Let me put it this way. The most who pass them are Bihari's. I can crib why more malayalee's aren't there. It is just cribbing. IAS, means 'Collector' of a District. Its the highest civilian post of that district. It is not an easy exams, I had a friend of my do it three times, before he ultimatly passed it, and now is the colletor of some town in Manipur. There are a lot of muslim IAS officers and IPS officeres. It is a true fact, until recently muslims never viewed education as an important aspect of life. For example in kerala the largest educational body is a muslim one;

www.meskerala.com.

It is sad that muslim's in other state's havent taken initative like these. IAS and IPS is not anything funny or easy. So dont crib and go study.

Whenever we talk about development, the most obvious culprit of present status of state of Bihar is - our politician. We never think about an important pillar of democracy i.e., executive. We Biharis take pride in the fact that Bihar is producing very large number of IAS or IPS officers year after year
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http://www.patnadaily.com/readerswrite/2005/apr/prabhat_sinha2.html

Why is such backward state producing so many IAS officers not lets say Haryana or Delhi, cuz of the importance it gives in education. SriRangan is right when he says go study. IAS or IPS aint a child's play
 
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Funny who everything is a conspiracy and there is no fault with them, but always someone else or the other. There has never been a collector from my caste until recently, does that mean there was a government conspiracy...heck no, my people never studied..lol
 
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IAS, isnt an easy exam to pass, Let me put it this way. The most who pass them are Bihari's. I can crib why more malayalee's aren't there. It is just cribbing. IAS, means 'Collector' of a District. Its the highest civilian post of that district. It is not an easy exams, I had a friend of my do it three times, before he ultimatly passed it, and now is the colletor of some town in Manipur.

Nothing to do with cribbing more to do with discrimination.


There are a lot of muslim IAS officers and IPS officeres.

Don't seem to be that many in kashmir.



It is a true fact, until recently muslims never viewed education as an important aspect of life..

It is sad that muslim's in other state's havent taken initative like these. IAS and IPS is not anything funny or easy. So dont crib and go study.

"The low percentage of Kashmiri Muslims in top positions is surprising, because the valley churns out 16,000 graduates and 3,000 postgraduates every year."
 
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Nothing to do with cribbing more to do with discrimination.

Most Indians feel, that kashmiri's are getting all the cake..anyways.. it got nothing to do with that.


Don't seem to be that many in kashmir.

There arent much from Kerala either, so is there a conspiracy.



"The low percentage of Kashmiri Muslims in top positions is surprising, because the valley churns out 16,000 graduates and 3,000 postgraduates every year."

Graduates dont make IAS or IPS, brilliant people do. Educational standards of Kashmir are not as good as the other parts of the country cuz of the various tensions it faces. Quality still hasnt been achieved. How come there so many Muslim IAS and IPS officers, Kashmiri;s arent there, cuz of the condition that is prevailing now.
 
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"The low percentage of Kashmiri Muslims in top positions is surprising, because the valley churns out 16,000 graduates and 3,000 postgraduates every year."

The top positions are made up by the IAS / IPS cadres who are taken after completing a national test/interview. And not only that it doesnt mean that if a kashmiri is selected he will serve in kashmir itself. Normally the otehr way happens. They are never posted in their own locality. A person who is elected from say Maharashtra would be seerving in UP or WB.

And also with a degree you stand no chance to get a IAS/IPS. A MBA or any other masters eve doesnt guarantee that to you.
 
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OIC supports Kashmiris’ right to self-determination

ISLAMABAD: Expressing full support for the population of Kashmir’s right to self determination, the Contact Group of the Organisation of Islamic Conference (OIC) on Kashmir has welcomed the peace process between Pakistan and India to resolve the Kashmir issue.

The OIC Contact Group on Kashmir met on Wednesday in Islamabad at the 34th Islamic Conference of Foreign Ministers (ICFM), which was chaired by Foreign Minster Khurshid Mehmood Kasuri.

The OIC Contact Group said by resolving the Kashmir issue, Pakistan and India could improve their relations and sustainable peace would be possible in the region. Kasuri in his address to the Contact Group, highlighted the efforts of the Pakistani Government for a meaningful, constructive and result oriented dialogue to this end.

The Foreign Minister briefed the meeting about the Pakistan-India composite dialogue process and the various confidence-building measures taken to raise the comfort level of the Kashmiris. He said that Pakistan was engaged in the Composite Dialogue with India to find a solution to the Kashmir dispute that is acceptable to Pakistan, India, and the Kashmiri people.

Kasuri said that both the countries are trying to resolve conflicts and talks are underway through a backdoor channel for resolution of the Kashmir issue.

The members of OIC Contact Group have expressed their full support for the ongoing peace process between Pakistan and India and opined that the seriousness shown by President Musharraf and Indian leadership would help resolve the conflict.

They stressed the need for the restoration of the Kashmir dispute in accordance with the aspirations of the Kashmiri people.

The meeting was attended by ministers and representatives from Qatar, Syria, Sudan, Senegal, Niger, Saudi Arabia, Morocco, Azerbaijan, Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Malaysia, Turkey and Palestine. online
 
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‘AJK govt lost Rs 2bn due to official trips ’

MUZAFFARABAD: The Azad Jammu and Kashmir (AJK) government has lost Rs 2 billon of the official funds during the last 10 months owing to frequent foreign visits of various government officials, said AJK People’s Muslim League (AJKPML) Khawaja Farooq Ahmed on Tuesday.

Talking to reporters, Farooq alleged that AJK Prime Minister Sardar Attique Ahmed Khan had so far spent approximately Rs 17 million on visits to the various countries. “He (Attique) spent Rs 1.4 million on his visit to Saudi Arabia and Rs 7.4 million on his visits to the United States and Canada, while his recent visit to Britain and Belgium has cost the exchequer Rs 4.3 million,” he alleged. He said that government officials and ruling party leaders used funds reserved for various development projects to arrange their visits to various foreign countries. online
 
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I want to hear what the OIC 'guy' will say when he comes to India.

Dabong,

I hope you are convinced about ifitkar Geelani lies on IAS and IPS. As well this time around there are 15 IAS Muslims, of which one is a girl. Which is the lowest number though in the past 10 years
 
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'I want to be guiding light for Muslim girls'

May 17, 2007 | RSS | Tell a friend | Printable Version


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New Delhi: Deploring the state of education in India and especially among the Muslim community, Shammi Abidi, who has stood 16th among the successful civil service candidates this year, said she wants to be a guiding light for Muslim girls.

The 28-year-old Abidi, daughter of a professor in Lucknow, has also topped the list of Muslim candidates who have qualified the most competitive civil services examination of the country.

Of the 474 successful candidates, only 15 candidates from the Muslim community have achieved success.

"I am really thrilled after receiving the news. I want to tell all girls of my community to study hard and achieve whatever they want to. I want to be a guiding light for Muslim girls," Abidi told IANS from Lucknow over telephone.

"Had I not received support from my family, I would have been a mother of two or three kids by now. I wish all Muslim girls should pursue their dreams. Even boys, who get involved in small businesses, must take education seriously," she explained.
Asked which job she would like to take up, she quickly replied "District Magistrate".

"Health and education sector in India is in a very bad shape and my priority would be to improve these conditions. I think by becoming a district magistrate, I can do this for people," she said.

Abidi, who had her Masters in Economics from La Martiniere Girls College, Lucknow, qualified the prestigious civil services in her third attempt.

Thanking her parents and the Sriram's IAS coaching centre in Delhi, she said: "The news of my success is sinking slowly. Both my parents and teacher at the coaching centre gave me confidence to believe in my self. And finally I managed to crack it."
The successful candidates generally get appointment in the four categories of services - the Indian Administrative Service (IAS), Indian Foreign Service (IFS), Indian Police Service (IPS) and Central Services Group A and B.

There were some 200,000 applicants who appeared for the examination and only 474 finally qualified - a selection rate of a mere 0.237 percent. Of the selected candidates 373 are males and 101 females. Among the successful candidates only 16 were Muslim candidates.

The list of the successful candidates includes 214 general category aspirants, 144 from OBC, 80 scheduled castes candidates and 36 from the scheduled tribes.
A total of 18 physically challenged candidates qualified the October-November 2006 Main examination and the April-May 2007 personality test, and they include 13 general category candidates, three OBCs and two scheduled caste members. (IANS)
http://indiaedunews.net/Career/'I_want_to_be_guiding_light_for_Muslim_girls'_1085/
 
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Dabong,

I hope you are convinced about ifitkar Geelani lies on IAS and IPS.

Sorry mate but i checked your site and it confirms what Geelani said that there have been no muslims picked in the last 7 years from kashmir.
I can not remember seeing anywhere on the article that geelani said that they where no muslims in IAS and IPS taking exams but rather that no muslims from kashmir where passing.
I do take in the argument that if you consider in the last decade there has been a war going on kashmir that it will affect the children studing in a negative way.Also if you take in the number of indians and compare to kashmiris then there is bound to be be less kashmiris in civil service.
My main point is that i think kashmiris muslim/hindu should be running kashmir and not indians/pakistanis.
 
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Well, IPS and IAS is not like that Dabong.
If you are from Jammu Cadre you will be running mostly Kerala or some other place.. It makes sure that you dont show anyone favour; if you are a local you are bound to do that.

You are not getting the picture, I will give another example, Kerala has the highest Education % in India 99%, Yet here there are no good Higher education centers, ie colleges and universities; cuz the standards are quite low, since Campus politics makes bandhs and hartals in the campus all the time. Therefore students study in different states. I studied in Tamil Nadu for sometime. Bull, Studied in St.Alberts college here..the WORST!!!! the biggest stone pelters. Now Kashmir is exactly same; and even worse they have a political problem as well. I am sorry; If kashmiri's didnt get through is cuz they didnt study. The pass percentage of IAS is .2302%; yOU gotta be the BEST to pass it.
 
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'Instructor in the art of killing'

A young soldier recently stationed in Indian-administered Kashmir describes the feelings of soldiers braving the cold at high altitudes as they wait to intercept militants.


We have to go out, again. It is not easy going out night after night but I cannot really help feeling the debilitating effects of the cold.

First impressions of Kashmir
Extra-judicial killings


Our group comprises two different sets of people.

One has the newcomers in it, the load carriers, who are being introduced to this kind of terrain and this way of operation.

They are young boys from 18 to 22 years old.

Then there are the old timers, men who have served their time here and are familiar with the surroundings and must be good since they have survived this long.


I am a newcomer, not to this kind of operation but to this kind of terrain.

I slowly become accustomed to the cold, devise methods to ward off sleep, and have also begun to decipher shadows in the night, separating the real from the imaginary.

It is quite tedious going out in the cold waiting, hoping for him to come out of nowhere... So that we can kill him.

Every experienced soldier has a young one with him as his buddy. I also have a young boy with me. He is just a few months older than 19, comes from a family of farmers somewhere in central India, and joined the army to provide them with a livelihood.

I teach him the tricks of the trade: what to carry, what not to carry, how to wear his shoes so that they do not cut him, how many layers of clothing to wear so that we can remain warm and still not hindered when we want to move fast, what position to wait in so that we do not tire very fast, how to aim and fire so that the enemy may not escape... And many other seemingly trivial details.

But when you are in a life and death situation, attention to detail can save lives - it could be the difference between this young man retuning home to see his family again or him returning home dead.

I had always thought that I would enjoy teaching - but that was when I was thinking about teaching English literature.

Here I am, teaching a young boy barely out of his teens how to kill - without fear, without pity, without remorse - just the way I was taught.

'Art of killing'

After sometime the higher cause becomes obscure. After sometime you just start accepting the fact that every night we go out like primitive hunters hoping for a kill - it becomes a very natural thing to do, part of the routine.

When we do kill somebody, we rejoice and dance and hug each other and pose with the dead body as if it was some trophy to be shown off. But we stop being human.


Soldiers have to be ever-watchful for militant attacks

As I sit there in the night, waiting... I think to myself 'how did it all come to this?'

From a young boy who wanted to teach English literature, how did I end up becoming an instructor in the art of killing?

Since when did death stop affecting me, when did I become so numb? I do not know... No answer comes.

What I do know is that somewhere along the line I made decisions in life which have resulted me being here... In the dark, in the jungle, in the cold... Waiting...


The soldier wished to remain anonymous.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/6660951.stm
 
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What is Kashmir. As far as I know it consists of

Jammu - They love India.
Leh, Kargil Ladhak - They love India.
Srinagar (Valley) - They want to be independant / part of Pakistan.
Northern Areas - As per the latest EU report they dont have a choice.
Azad Kashmir - Again the opinion is devided but most say Pakistan.
Aksai Chin - The Chinese Dragon says its theirs. No one has the guts to tell them to get lost or bothers about the rights of Kashmiris there ?

I think all my learned friends must read the latest EU report which actually speaks of ground realities without getting carried away by the propoganda. Its quite an eye opener.

Peace is the byline for the future and I hope peace will prevail in the future.

Regards
 
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Would you care to share your opinion about Kashmir? Something tells me that its not as neutral as your name suggests. ;)
 
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