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Kashmir is not Palestine, India is not Israel!
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Palestinians have been thrown out of their ancestral land that the Jews have occupied. If there is any displacement that has occurred in Kashmir, it has been the ethnic cleansing faced by Hindu pandits.

The analogy of comparing Kashmir with Palestine has been making a hum for some time now.

Scholars -genuine and otherwise- debating the possible solutions to either areas of tumult, have looked around to seek intellectual inspiration and inevitably the Muslim component of the population has brought about the comparison. Others, seeking to promote Kashmir as an extension of global jihad, have made similar observations.

The uninformed have played along.

Closer home, General Pervez Musharraf, CEO extraordinaire, was perhaps the first Pakistani leader to compare Palestine and Kashmir. The clarion call has been picked up by the current disposition, with President Zardari and Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar being the latest to join in, more out of a growing sense of desperation than conviction.

With their own house up in flames and separatist agendas mushrooming, the latter is a scarce emotion. However, given the fascination of the Pakistani establishment with Kashmir and that being the only currency available for diplomatic barter, an anxious Pakistan is keen to establish a link with an internationally recognised turmoil.

This is perhaps in the futile hope that once the two issues are spoken of in the same vein, they become symbiotic and self-sustaining in diplomatic circles. Of course, Mr Syed Ali Shah Geelani, a protégé of Pakistan, has also chipped in with assenting murmurs labeling Palestine and Kashmir as the two reasons for global instability and exhorting the Kashmiris to take a leaf out of the Palestinian book.

Further, the protests of 2010 were tagged as an Intifada (uprising) by the Kashmir Action Committee of Pakistan (KACP), a Lahore-based organisation that comprises retired bureaucrats and army officers whose raison d’être (reason for existence) is supporting Kashmir’s merger with Pakistan. The local media in the valley picked up the romantic notion and institutionalised the metaphor.

However, there are a number of coherent arguments to counter the canard.

Religion is not the basis for protests in Kashmir

Firstly, the Intifadas in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip are an Islamic struggle against a Jewish occupation. There is no religious factor in the Kashmiris’ protests, which are more against mis-governance, stifling presence of security forces and for an easier daily existence.

The ordinary Kashmiri as against the average Palestinian will have nothing to do with religious bigotry. Their brand of Islam, which they call Rishi Islam, is a strain of Sufi Islam that is unique to Kashmir and has tolerance and forbearance as its cornerstones.

Ethnic cleansing against Hindus, not Muslims!

Secondly, the Palestinians have been thrown out of their ancestral land that the Jews have occupied. If there is any displacement that has occurred in Kashmir, it has been the ethnic cleansing faced by the Hindu pundits, a radicalisation brought in by Pakistani infiltrators and supported by a few stage props from amongst the Kashmiri political leaders.

Article 370 of the Indian constitution ensures a special status that safeguards Kashmir for the Kashmiris. No other state of the Indian Union enjoys the provision and therefore most quote it as being singularly responsible for the lack of integration with the rest of the country.

Motivation for protests is not independence

Third is the motivation for protests. While the Palestinians struggle for their homeland, a minor section of the Kashmiris, influenced by happenings around the world and fed on an overdose of misplaced ****** sentiment and false machismo have endeavoured to cause disturbance.

The stone-throwing of 2010 was motivated in part by payments to agents who organised the youth into rampaging mobs even as the promoters of this mode of protest sat smug in safety, provided by the very forces their apprentices confronted, and travelled in bulletproof SUVs. The Chief Minister, Mr Omar Abdullah, called it “an industry”. The average Kashmiri is upset more by corruption and non-performance in the public offices than by any concept of a denied nationhood.

Intifada: Who is really responsible for disorder in Kashmir?

Fourth and last is the concept of Intifada. The visual images from Kashmir of 2010 may seem akin to those from Palestine, with youth donning face masks, graffiti sprayed on the walls, women and children forming part of the mob as the men pelted stones and hid behind them, confident that the security forces would not target the children and women.

However, that’s where the similarity ends. Putting women and kids on the streets was the handiwork of peer pressure created by Dukhtran-e-Millat led by Asiya Andrabi and not in answer to a higher calling. Coercing women and children to participate in protests where the menfolk intend to stoke violence is contemptible, to say the least.

A few took to the streets as an expression of disenchantment with the security and state apparatus that could not ensure that their children stay safe. Since the Pakistani infiltrators and their Kashmiri supporters, who are the real culprits for disorder, do not make for a tangible target to protest against, the government becomes the viable object and the police, its law maintaining arm, the obvious adversary, once the protest turns violent.

Also, the sole aim of the police, which is constituted from the subjects of the state, while confronting a disruptive mob is to prevent damage to government property and restore order. This intent is not different from that of the state police in any other state of the Indian Union.

In Palestine, the aim of the Hamas Police (made up of Palestinians, trying to quell an unruly crowd) would be similar. However, once a mob is confronting an Israeli force, the intent of the law-keepers change and their reaction is therefore apparently high-handed and women and children get hurt or worse.

This is never the case in Kashmir. Every prolonged instance of stone-throwing by a disorderly Muslim crowd is not intifada. The word and the sentiment belong to West Asia and specifically to Palestine.

Face masks and graffiti are not the only components of an intifada.

To summarise, Kashmir is not Palestine, India is not Israel. Intifada is a localised concept that answers to the typical politics of West Asia and any juxtaposition of Kashmiri aspirations, borne out of political disillusionment, with the Palestinian’s struggle for a free land is misplaced and intended to mislead.



MODS, Please move this to the Kashmir section, as i do not have any permissions in posting there.
 
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Every one know about this..

Dnt you know UN refuse to discuss Kashmir issue??
 
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Every one know about this..

Dnt you know UN refuse to discuss Kashmir issue??
Well, everyone knows that. Unfortunately, their establishment beginning with the current government has enmeshed them in their web of lies and deception beginning with the Shimla Agreement, in which LoC was converted to an IB, and secondly with the UN Charter Resolution in which Pakistani troops are supposed to pull out as a precondition of the plebiscite. But, as stated in the article, with their own house on fire, they are desperate to claim their "ShahRag" as being their unfinished agenda.
 
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The garbage tribune is worthless.they have the same problem as lafafa Mir,najam chirya,baba nusrat tun.imtiaz alam the bitter,chirchri burhiya a.k.a asma(the dreaming caretaker prime minister) etc.safma limited alliance
 
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The brutality of Indian occupying forces in illegally occupied Kashmir is same to Israel's brutality in occupied Palestine.

Yayyy !!
Express Tribune makes my day.

Seriously, these articles are better ignored, unless someone special wants to please themselves :P

Pakistan media is totally Anti Pakistani & Anti Pak Army. They only speak for those & read their scripts who pays them well.

The garbage tribune is worthless.they have the same problem as lafafa Mir,najam chirya,baba nusrat tun.imtiaz alam the bitter,chirchri burhiya a.k.a asma(the dreaming caretaker prime minister) etc.safma limited alliance

Well said mate.
 
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Should Hindu Pandits start killing muslims who held their land and in PAK and in London Mush and every other world place like Palestine did ?

Nice comparison , now hypocrites are exposed.

Yayyy !!
Express Tribune makes my day.

Seriously, these articles are better ignored, unless someone special wants to please themselves :P


Truth hurts and its really bitter, no one ho much say "Sun rises from west" but it dose-not make sun rises from west.
 
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Should Hindu Pandits start killing muslims who held their land and in PAK and in London Mush and every other world place like Palestine did ?

Nice comparison , now hypocrites are exposed.
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Truth hurts and its really bitter, no one ho much say "Sun rises from west" but it dose-not make sun rises from west.


Yeah OK. We're the baddies Mommy told you not to mess with.


PS: And what the heck is a London Mush ??
 
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I find it interesting Indians choose an expansionist policy over HSR links towards its north western Muslim block. Let some time pass still! Let them realize the opportunities they messed...
 
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Typical ungratefulness of muslims. Well not a wonder that islamic extremist are dealt with ruthlessly by Israel and its allies.

Should Hindu Pandits start killing muslims who held their land and in PAK and in London Mush and every other world place like Palestine did ?

Nice comparison , now hypocrites are exposed.




Truth hurts and its really bitter, no one ho much say "Sun rises from west" but it dose-not make sun rises from west.

They should have resisted instead of running away.Even the kashmiri muslims mock them for this and consider them sub-humans for having run away. You have to be hard and merciless with muslims.That is why Israel/USA have an iron grip over the arab muslims for over 70 years.
 
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(Dear Moderator , although the thread is an older thread with banned members would like to correct the false allegations above and ... this is an alternative view on Kashmir :)

It rip apart the the trash posted above by the R-SS Nazi sympathisers who worship Hitler's baby..


The analogy is Incorrect, in this equation:

The correct analogy is Balkans and Kosovo, (States freed from Nazi in WW2)
Kashmir is Kosovo, and Pakistan is more like Albania , (or Britain in WW2)
the Indian Union is the very apt Stalinist Yugoslavia SFR ( Nazi germany WW2)


Indian Union is not a country is a super -Monetary union (*ecnonmic term) and tehrefor not a nation state and any action against it is not racist ... but Freedom like lfreedom from Soviet Union.

The Kashmiri Objective is Freedom #Krexit from the IU ( Indian Union) ! Like #Brexit but in Heart of Asia !

AJK Kashmir is already a free country; albeit within the Pakistanian monetary and Defence Ambit ( it is like Switzerland and Kosovo Landlocked) until the time it can get the promised referrendum from both sides as UN Promised, it also has a fully functioning independent Parliament and Prime Minister- therefore not Represented in the Pakistaninan Parliament.

Even if it were ot acheive full Independence, It has 2 provinces occupied /administed by China which will need to be returned, as a gesture of goodwill, Its relations with Pakistan would likely be stronger due to co-relgiouinsit and Geographic domination of Peaks Pakistan, but also maintain healthy relations with Indian Union diiolves into its smaller sconstituent republics which would avail of Kashmir as a Switzerland of Asia, Afgani, the chinese russian and other-Stans would also have this opportunity - Much like Albania and Kosovo, montenegro, North. Macedonia ! #Krexit #Brexit

The pre-occupation of likening everthing to palestines is not valid and incorrect, it shows political and historical immaturity which the R-SS are exploiting to link very seperate issues, in order to avoid international isolation - mthey are tryin very hard to clutch to israel and myanmar - Israel as a populatoin has abandoned them,although at government level arms sales contuine, Indian union is bribing Myanmar and ignited the Rohingya issue to deflect any potential opposition from Myanmar who is diversifying air focr with china-Pakistan and Indian Union recently gifted submarine to buy freidshio - it is very desperate. #Krexit #Brexit #FreeKashmir

The Indian Union, already very isolated by almost every evangelical Chrsitian group over its treatment of Kashmiris is trying to rope in Israel public support by likening it to palestinenesn, since Israelis are in the misdt of the palestines issue and has n immediate daily impact ( rockets landing in sderot, air raid sirensetc),
whereas with Kashmir they are detached and can see from the outside.#Krexit #Brexit #FreeKashmir

This is at a time when even world Jewish sympathy and even hard right elements of the Israeli Media and public Opinion - especially the generation who lived in contact with holocaust survivors can completely recognise the Indian Union's brutality and hlocause-esque behaviour as Nazi and Indian Union's renaissance as the 3rd reich re-incarnated.#Krexit #Brexit #FreeKashmir

The Indian Union are creating an Aushwitz, Dachau and the likes of holocaust-eque proportions, they have openly called to rape dead Kashmiri and Moslem women from out of their graves ( some freaky re-incarnation necrophilia belief), [Chief Minister Yoga-man as reference point] and they are appropriating land, estates and property of Kashmiri since many Kashmiri are Goldsmiths and intellectuals; the Indian Union is persuing the Nazi SS or R-SS (Renaissance-SS) Script and like the Nazi blamed Jews for Controlling the Gold and ecnonomy they are blaming the Kashmiri for controlling the Gold and Economy.#Krexit #Brexit #FreeKashmir

This is Since the forced Demonitisation failed - they are resorting to nazi propaganada to usurp the rights, property and finally the lives and population of the Kashmiri People, keep going - its like mein Kampf being played out on daily basis .#Krexit #Brexit #FreeKashmir

Pakistanian PM Imran Khan has been a key campaigner for speaking up against Nazi Holocaust and anti-semitism as a lifelong campaigner and also a victim himself of anti-semtism#Krexit #Brexit #FreeKashmir

Even withiin the Indian Union Politacal party groups see the EU European Union whitewash of the Indian Union as Nazi now, and it is all out in the open, #Brexit Brexiteers in the UK hit the nail right on rightly called out the EU on its neo-Nazi institutional policy. ! #Krexit #Brexit #FreeKashmir

The Proposal here as a Solution is very simple mass Public solution : to pick up the movement as
Krexit -Kashmir Exit from the Indian Union#Krexit #Brexit #FreeKashmir

#KREXIT - KASHMIR EXIT FROM THE INDIAN UNION
#Krexit #Brexit #FreeKashmir

1. Kashmir to end the Monetary Union with the Indian Union (Article 370 has done this, as has CAA ,35-a)
2. Kashmir to Refuse using the Single Hindi Language (Forced Sansrkitisation, wiope out history &usurping cultural identity)
3. Kashmir to refuse to use the Single Currency of the Indian Union - Kashmiri Demonitise the Indian Union Rupee.
Instead use the US DOLLAR/GBP -POUND CHF -Swizz Franc.

This is not a BDS call ( which is a reactionary racist call - set up champagne socialists)

This is a #Brexit Clarion Call - only #Krexit for a Free Kashmir ( a pro-active movement for Kashmir Exiting the Indian Union )!

#KREXIT CLARION CALL - #FREEKASHMIR EXIT THE INDIAN UNION

Once it is clear/unclear to instituional investors that the INDIAN UNION RUPEE money is real fake or demonisitised previous currency - it looses its legitimacy, as it is simply not trustworthy and a pile of useless newspaper slips, please feel free to use wipe arse with or use as firewoood, the demonisitised notes.

This is a Peaceful but show of sterenght from position of Dominance - Mass and International not siply Pan-Asian Movement focussing on the Indian Union Ecnonmy, due to its role of being a Nazi anti-semtitic disgustful evil holocaust-esque colossus of filth,

Use the Logo and Peacefully vote with your Money, Invest your money in AJK Kashmir.

If they burn the pakistani rupee it will obnly serve to make exports cheaper and increase volume of trade, or revert to trade in US Dollar, win-win !

Indian Union has to unravel its unholy multiple artificial umbuilical cords, it was made on Stalinist-Soviet lines with sucessive Nazi Party governemnt, Many free Nations will emerge out of the Indian Union

This is an Individual and ECONOMIC MOVEMENT to empower people themselves, not a political nor Violent one, since it is the final democratic means possible and actinign within the parameters of the law - depsite violations and atricious attacks on Kashmiri protestors and systematic anti-semitic repression from the Indian Union.

Self defence is your opwn choice whether indivudal or Collective repsonsibility is your own choice - UN charter Human rights.

You've heard the term vote with your money - Here is Only to advocate Economic vote for Freedom with your US Dollar ! #Krexit #Brexit #FreeKashmir
 
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