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Kashmir: Iran’s handling of Israel offers valuable lessons for Pakistan

Iran has achieved nothing my mann and this is a fact and I am being objective. Everything Iran did was counter-productive so far.

Iraq: Still pretty much under US controll that even the Iraq politicians gave out solemeni A high level official got eliminated like a rag-tag militia. The Oil fields is controlled by the US Company exxon. They have nothing in Iraq except lipservice.

Syria: They couldn't eliminate the rebels after Solemnei himself has encourage Assad to fight and by 2014 with Iranian help they were collapsing but they called on Russia to save them against the Rebels Russia intervened fast few years the country is in 3 way partition with turkish, Russia and USA zones the question is where is the iranian zone. They also get daily bombed by Israel and have never responded.

Yemen: They all got the Houthis under sieged and starved and struggling for marely 10% of Yemen land. They are asking for ceasefire now the houthis. They are corned and cut from the ocean and land imports.

The Reason India attempted on Balakot was do to Iran's passive nature and non-responsive ways gave the indians hope of trying on Balakot which they understood immediately that Pakistan is not the place to come for games. It nearly ended the world. It was a valuable lesson there

US abandoned 5 Iraqi bases in the past month just because of some verbal Iranian threats. New Iraqi PM was chosen by Iranian Shia proxies. Iran is still king in Iraq.

Iran is in Syria to put bases near Israel and they have fulfilled that objective. Turkey and Russia respect that, whatever else goes in Syria is Russia and Turkey's problem to deal with.

Saudis and Emirates asked for a ceasefire under the cheap excuse of coronavirus few days ago after getting their assess handed to them by Iranian backed Houthis in Yemen. A single Houthi strike few years ago killed 52 Emirati and 10 Saudi soldiers in a single hit. Since then, it has only been a question of how long until the Saudis throw in the towel and acknowledge they are never going to win as long as Iran backs the Houthis.

We need to hit India hard through proxies. But we need to keep in mind that India is going to retaliate militarily as we saw Balakot and LOC latest clashes. We need to modernize our Armed Forces too. Sadly Gap is going to be increased both in quality and quantity at-least in Air Force and Navy

Pakistan needs to build up such a large missile arsenal that it is at least 3-4X missiles that India has. It should establish a deterrence that India will not be able to win any kind of missile battle with Pakistan if they try to retaliate. Iran employs this strategy with proxies in Lebanon, Syria, and Gaza surrounding Israel and it works very well. Israel has missiles but Iran has them outnumbered so heavily with its proxies missiles that Israel does not even have a chance of winning. Turkish drone strategy in Syria is also a good example. Turkey has so many drones that they don't give a shit if a few of them get shot down. Turkey just keeps churning out as many drones as they need and keep striking anything that moves since they have a massive numerical advantage and never run out.
 
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US abandoned 5 Iraqi bases in the past month just because of some verbal Iranian threats. New Iraqi PM was chosen by Iranian Shia proxies. Iran is still king in Iraq.

Iran is in Syria to put bases near Israel and they have fulfilled that objective. Turkey and Russia respect that, whatever else goes in Syria is Russia and Turkey's problem to deal with.

Saudis and Emirates asked for a ceasefire under the cheap excuse of coronavirus few days ago after getting their assess handed to them by Iranian backed Houthis in Yemen. A single Houthi strike few years ago killed 52 Emirati and 10 Saudi soldiers in a single hit. Since then, it has only been a question of how long until the Saudis throw in the towel and acknowledge they are never going to win as long as Iran backs the Houthis.

The Iraqi Hezbullah created large demonstration against the new president who is washtington backed. They changed these bases with more protective bases and brought in patriot air defensive systems they ain't going anywhere. As long as that oil-field in the Kurdish territory runs.

Why move closer to israel when you get bombed on daily basis without response what is the point in that.

Saudi led-coalition never wanted the ceasefire but it came via pressure from UN especially via a guy that the Houthis has personally reached out to and asked for the ceasefire. The Houthis asked the UN for ceasefire and the UN put pressure on the coalition to accept
 
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Erasing? You are the one making those claims, not me. IF what you say is true then the onus is on you (not me) to provide genuine and credible evidence that supports those claims. If not then they are likely to be false.

Just watch: General Pervaiz Musharaf (former president and Ex-army chief). Many videos are there:

Pakistan already played the non-state actors and proxy cards against India but output was NIL.

Before you think about Iran model, you need yo think about following:

1. If you say, j & k is disputed land then you talk about Pak kashmir including Gilgit-Balitischatn as well under UN resolution.

2. Pakistan made the mistakes from 1979 to 2001. started supporting arm struggle in Afghanistan and then in Kashmir (1989).

3. After 9/11, once Pakistan took the U-turn (Under US presser) friends became terrorists and Pakistan army lost many valuable life's and also common people i.e Bombs last etc... it took nearly 20 years and still your army is fighting against them....

4. Now Pakistan situation is improving by day by day! Will Pakistan again take risk?

5. India and Pakistan, both are nuclear power and if one missile will drop by anyone then other country will response by double missiles. It will not be one side affair...

6. Does Pakistan want to become a 2nd Iran for Kashmir?

7. Does Pakistan economy can sustain such a war against India in 21 century?
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Many question I have in My mind but what i have understood that nothing will happen and Kashmir drama will be continued on tweeter, media etc....
 
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The Iraqi Hezbullah created large demonstration against the new president who is washtington backed. They changed these bases with more protective bases and brought in patriot air defensive systems they are ain't going anywhere. As long as that oil-field in the Kurdish territory runs.

Why move closer to israel when you get bombed on daily basis without response what is the point in that.

Saudi led-coalition never wanted the ceasefire but it came via pressure from UN especially via guy that the Houthis has personally reached out to and asked for the ceasefire. The Houthis asked the UN for ceasefire and the UN put pressure on the coalition to accept

Adnan al Zurfi was the Washington puppet PM in Iraq and he withdrew after Iran turned up the heat on him. He was replaced by Mustafa al Kadhimi who was an ex-Iraqi intelligence chief, aka Iran's man in Iraq.

And US claim that it is not reducing but consolidating bases in Iraq is complete bullshit, no one is foolish enough to actually believe that excuse. US got caught with its pants down in Iraq, simple as that.

As far as getting bombed by Israel, you are talking as if Iran's proxies doesn't retaliate which they do, without hesitation.

On Yemen, why on earth would Houthis ask for ceasefire if they are winning? Saudis are the ones who got driven out of Yemen with Houthi missiles flying into Riyadh, their only option for an official exit was to ask for a ceasefire. Saudis are the ones who asked for a ceasefire, not the other way around.

Pakistan already played the non-state actors and proxy cards against India but output was NIL.

Before you think about Iran model, you need yo think about following:

1. If you say, j & k is disputed land then you talk about Pak kashmir including Gilgit-Balitischatn as well under UN resolution.

2. Pakistan made the mistakes from 1979 to 2001. started supporting arm struggle in Afghanistan and then in Kashmir (1989).

3. After 9/11, once Pakistan took the U-turn (Under US presser) friends became terrorists and Pakistan army lost many valuable life's and also common people i.e Bombs last etc... it took nearly 20 years and still your army is fighting against them....

4. Now Pakistan situation is improving by day by day! Will Pakistan again take risk?

5. India and Pakistan, both are nuclear power and if one missile will drop by anyone then other country will response by double missiles. It will not be one side affair...

6. Does Pakistan want to become a 2nd Iran for Kashmir?

7. Does Pakistan economy can sustain such a war against India in 21 century?
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Many question I have in My mind but what i have understood that nothing will happen and Kashmir drama will be continued on tweeter, media etc....

1. Agreed

2. Pakistan's war against the Soviets from 1979-2001 worked great. The problem started in 2001 when US invaded again and asked Pakistan to turn against the mujahideen it was supporting all along. Unlikely that Pakistan will have that problem in Kashmir because India will be an enemy of Pakistan for the foreseeable future, hence no need to switch sides.

3. It was longest war in US history, this cannot be blamed on Pakistan.

4. Yes because one does not sell their security for economy. Indian aggression in Kashmir will force Pakistan's hand to take decisive action at some point.

5. Nukes are irrelevant

6. Strengthwise yes. Pakistan should be able to strike India the way Iran strikes the Saudis and Israelis.

7. Asymmetrically yes. Iran is the strongest country in the Middle East and has a much smaller budget than any of its enemies. This strategy can work for Pakistan as well.
 
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Adnan al Zurfi was the Washington puppet PM in Iraq and he withdrew after Iran turned up the heat on him. He was replaced by Mustafa al Kadhimi who was an ex-Iraqi intelligence chief, aka Iran's man in Iraq.

And US claim that it is not reducing but consolidating bases in Iraq is complete bullshit, no one is foolish enough to actually believe that excuse. US got caught with its pants down in Iraq, simple as that.

As far as getting bombed by Israel, you are talking as if Iran's proxies doesn't retaliate which they do, without hesitation.

On Yemen, why on earth would Houthis ask for ceasefire if they are winning? Saudis are the ones who got driven out of Yemen with Houthi missiles flying into Riyadh, their only option for an official exit was to ask for a ceasefire. Saudis are the ones who asked for a ceasefire, not the other way around.


On April 9, Iraqi prime minister-designate Adnan al-Zurfi withdrew from his short campaign to form a cabinet after coming under pressure to step aside. Taking his place is intelligence chief Mustafa al-Kadhimi, a candidate with the pledged support of all major political blocs. Despite radical differences in their personal styles, Zurfi and Kadhimi are both political moderates and Iraqi nationalists with good connections to Baghdad’s international partners. Both are also held in deep suspicion by the Iranian security establishment for being too close to the United States.
https://www.washingtoninstitute.org...rom-zurfi-to-kadhimi-u.s.-policy-implications

When did they respond? Do you know how many Iranian officials and military leaders Israel killed it can't even be counted only in the past year. It's a one way conflict.

Yes. The houthis asked Martin Griffiths for permanent ceasefire and removal of the blockade which the coalition refused they only accepted 2 weeks ceasefire nothing major and refusedto remove blockade. This was the behind the scenes negotiations just because media are putting in different wordings dosen't mean anything.

The US is not going anywhere either. They brought patrioit air defensive systems and changed to more secure bases. Thats all
 
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Actually, you are forgetting from 1989 to till Gen. musharraf era.. Specially, before 9/11.... No one was bothering about terrorism but after the incident, the world is not ready yo tolerate if someone organize terrorism in other country but still its not stopped fully...

Pakistan has already tried but output was nothing.
You should be thankful to Mush.

@Foxtrot Alpha One must remember that last time our decade long planning went into drain,when ruling junta sold everything for sake of ruling.
@Psychic
 
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* Mushy U-turn on Kashmir policy caused Pakistani stance to lose credibility and international community to lose faith in Pakistani stance.

* Pakistani ever changing policy from dispute to issue an than MFN showed lack of resolve on Pakistani end.

* Pakistan failure to control spread of terrorism inside it’s own territory, almost getting consumed by the WoT, while Indian economic improvements in the same period, caused Subcontinent And therefore Kashmir equation To change.

* Pakistan handling of ME crisis caused GCC to back away form Kashmir cause. (You scratch my back, I scratch yours). Umma chumma can only go so far.

* International community isn’t an honest broker. Every country has it’s own biases and businesses.

Now what can be done :

Iran don’t have any border with Israel, much less any real military capability to project. What Pakistan need is Bangladesh model and to some extent Crimea.

- Gather Kashmir Leadership, Azad and occupied.

- Setup a political consensus on freedom struggle.

- Turn Kashmir into a hellhole for occupying forces. Suck as many IA formation as possible. LOC will get real hot. Don’t expect Indian to just handover Kashmir like a civilized nation.

- Use UN resolution to justify it’s actions. Pakistan gotta be robust with international community and few friends it got.



- Expect massive human right violations by Indian in occupied Kashmir . So this can’t be allowed to turn into a massacre. Be ready for a war even at the start of this operation. Pakistan gotta act fast. From political to Armed Struggling and if Indian crack down with million plus troops in the valley, just use MLRS and other tools to keep lighting up their HQs and ammo dumps. This may lead to possibly war.

- If intel suggested war is imminent, strike Preemptively and strike hard. Be ready for WCS and Polish what ever Nasr, Nuke you got.

Remember Bangladesh model. Suck em in. Train, arm local population to keep as many of them engaged as possible. Follow throw is either limited Direct military interventions or full scale war depending upon enemy response.

This is the only realistic solution out there for Kashmir. Pakistani gotta grow a pair and stop expecting unarmed Kashmiri to fight of nation of billion plus. Kashmiris tried in 90s. They were killed, tortured and there women were raped while Pakistani politicians were busy raping Pakistani economy.
 
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7. Does Pakistan economy can sustain such a war against India in 21 century?
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Pakistan is self sufficient in food production and other major imports are through China. Iran is next for oil imports. So yes pakistan can sustain the blow easily. The only thing is that Pakistani leaders cannot runaway in the west where their black money is stashed.

As for nuclear blackmail, it won't work. Pakistani thinking is crystal clear that in case pakistan goes down it will make sure it take India down. In case of nuclear war between Pakistan and India, Pakistan maybe no more,it will not exist but India situation will be of a man without arms and legs and teeths. That would be new India, a nuclear wasteland with people being born with defects for next 2 centuries or even more. There will still be 57 other Muslim countries but India...no more swamies.
 
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* Mushy U-turn on Kashmir policy caused Pakistani stance to lose credibility and international community to lose faith in Pakistani stance.

* Pakistani ever changing policy from dispute to issue an than MFN showed lack of resolve on Pakistani end.

* Pakistan failure to control spread of terrorism inside it’s own territory, almost getting consumed by the WoT, while Indian economic improvements in the same period, caused Subcontinent And therefore Kashmir equation To change.

* Pakistan handling of ME crisis caused GCC to back away form Kashmir cause. (You scratch my back, I scratch yours). Umma chumma can only go so far.

* International community isn’t an honest broker. Every country has it’s own biases and businesses.

Now what can be done :

Iran don’t have any border with Israel, much less any real military capability to project. What Pakistan need is Bangladesh model and to some extent Crimea.

- Gather Kashmir Leadership, Azad and occupied.

- Setup a political consensus on freedom struggle.

- Turn Kashmir into a hellhole for occupying forces. Suck as many IA formation as possible. LOC will get real hot. Don’t expect Indian to just handover Kashmir like a civilized nation.

- Use UN resolution to justify it’s actions. Pakistan gotta be robust with international community and few friends it got.



- Expect massive human right violations by Indian in occupied Kashmir . So this can’t be allowed to turn into a massacre. Be ready for a war even at the start of this operation. Pakistan gotta act fast. From political to Armed Struggling and if Indian crack down with million plus troops in the valley, just use MLRS and other tools to keep lighting up their HQs and ammo dumps. This may lead to possibly war.

- If intel suggested war is imminent, strike Preemptively and strike hard. Be ready for WCS and Polish what ever Nasr, Nuke you got.

Remember Bangladesh model. Suck em in. Train, arm local population to keep as many of them engaged as possible. Follow throw is either limited Direct military interventions or full scale war depending upon enemy response.

This is the only realistic solution out there for Kashmir. Pakistani gotta grow a pair and stop expecting unarmed Kashmiri to fight of nation of billion plus. Kashmiris tried in 90s. They were killed, tortured and there women were raped while Pakistani politicians were busy raping Pakistani economy.
Attack through Proxies all over India
 
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Article is 100% correct, I have been saying the exact same thing for years. Pakistan must follow the Iranian model. I am making dua for the day Pakistani leaders realize we must project hard power like Iran.

After Pakistan, I have more respect for Iran than any other country.

Iran is not afraid to use force to send a clear message to its enemies.

Pakistan must follow the Iranian model and we must learn from it.
iranian model is proxies in islamic countries which is forbidden in islam.
We will follow our own model and would respond to every indian aggression unlike iranians nil response to israel.
 
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The Iraqi Hezbullah created large demonstration against the new president who is washtington backed. They changed these bases with more protective bases and brought in patriot air defensive systems they ain't going anywhere. As long as that oil-field in the Kurdish territory runs.

Why move closer to israel when you get bombed on daily basis without response what is the point in that.

Saudi led-coalition never wanted the ceasefire but it came via pressure from UN especially via a guy that the Houthis has personally reached out to and asked for the ceasefire. The Houthis asked the UN for ceasefire and the UN put pressure on the coalition to accept

I hate to say that i agree with the poster based on its merit.
But here are key differences between Iran and Pakistan for which Pakistan and India did not go for a complete elimination for each other

1- Iran has oil so they can be happily sanctoned but still they can manage their economy
2- Pakistan willpower to take Kashmir is confusing at its best. India will never leave Kashmir till we are lost in any war...But Did Pakistan consider us as a mortal enemey as Iran consider with Israel?Why even think of as a normal nation if Pakistan knows that we will never give Kashmir without a war?
3- And finally a hard fact that may sound rude to you..Pakistan use Kashmir separatists to hurt India but does that mean they love Kashmir people more than they hate Indian? Think about this question prior to answering it.
How can you love ur Kashmiri people when they are at lock down while asking INdia to play cricket with you since last 70 year?
How can you even watch Indian movies while India still increasing its hold on Kashmir?

That shows the confusing attitude of public of Pakistan which is vastly different than Iran? Iran has taken some principled stand on Palestine and sticking to it where as you use Kashmir separatism to hurt India.But in reality when you got a chance in Feb last year, you back tracked in the name of peace.


That summarizes the story of Pakistan and Iran.Frankly, you do not have national appetite like Iran...So let us give respect where it is due to Iran.
 
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Pakistan is self sufficient in food production and other major imports are through China. Iran is next for oil imports. So yes pakistan can sustain the blow easily. The only thing is that Pakistani leaders cannot runaway in the west where their black money is stashed.

As for nuclear blackmail, it won't work. Pakistani thinking is crystal clear that in case pakistan goes down it will make sure it take India down. In case of nuclear war between Pakistan and India, Pakistan maybe no more,it will not exist but India situation will be of a man without arms and legs and teeths. That would be new India, a nuclear wasteland with people being born with defects for next 2 centuries or even more. There will still be 57 other Muslim countries but India...no more swamies.

As I have already said in other threads...
If nuclear war will happen then no one will be winner... India vs Pakistan or India vs China...

So, about proxy or non-state actors war in Kashmir will never help as well. (It is already tried by Pakistan and again can try in the future)

I don't have a single percent doubt that Pakistan will get Kashmir. There was a time before 1970s, both countries missed that opportunities.

But now, its a just political tool which used by leaders of both countries. Only possible to get resolve if both countries will not claim of each other parts.

And, somehow manage to give more freedom to both sides of people with very low numbers of security and administration control. Army should be withdraw from tge both sides of borders and local police should manage in both part of J&K.

Its a only practice solution...

If not then, both countries will not get anything but will loose on a daily basis.. Forget about economy and human growth as well...
 
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Don't follow iranian model. India is not israel , it would be a huge compliment to india if we compare it to strong and modern state of israel.

Its the opposite actually in south asia. Of what you suggest. India is a destabalizing and jegative force in south asia. Pakistan is more than capable of keeping balance with india. If one day pakistaniz decided enough is enough they could with hardship ofcourse balakanize india espeically its north and western parts.

We should keep our military up to speed thats all. India is unstable country and not very natural union wait for the iron to be red hot and a single blow will break it into halves.

Just keep gathering strength with advantages such as hypersonic weapons , hydrogen bombs , non detectable high dage dealing weapons.

Make cost of war super heavy for pesky indian scum.
 
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Iran is keeping Israel on its toes by working on hard power that is deterrence through showing-off nukes. The unpredictability of aggressive credible response to any aggression is the key aspect of this model. Pakistan can design a similar model. What should Pakistan do to contain Indian influence on Kahsmir?

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For months after August 5, 2019, when the state of Jammu and Kashmir was stripped of the special status and carved into two Union Territories — residents of the valley feared it was a step towards a demographic change in the region. Things got clearer when an Indian diplomat in the US came up with the idea of following the Israeli model in Kashmir. Now India is doing the same.

When the whole world is worried about the Corona Virus, India just pulled out another page from the Israeli textbook. It passed this new legislation, under which anyone who has resided in the Kashmir region for 15 years can purchase land and become a permanent resident.

UN recognized disputed territory of Kashmir is the world’s most militarized region with more than 700,000 Indian soldiers, paramilitary and police in the region. Despite an active diplomatic campaign by Pakistan on Kashmir, the International community yet again failed to play its part in resolving this 70 year’s old conflict.

Kashmir: Pakistan’s policy is unproductive
India relies on its allies in containing Pakistan via different international bodies e.g FATF; this keeps Pakistan under pressure eventually preventing it from direct engagement in Indian administered Kashmir. This is the reason Indian policy makers believe that Pakistan can’t do anything and are slowly moving towards the annexation of Kashmir based on the Israeli model.

On the other hand, the Pakistani government and state apparatus are highly influenced by the Indian Psychological operations — this is the main factor in defining Pakistan’s policy on Kashmir, which is just limited to the political and diplomatic grounds. This was the exact approach Palestinians adopted due to lack of both capacity and capability to adopt other aggressive approaches but this is not the case with Pakistan. This approach failed because Israel had enough power to sustain the international diplomatic pressure. Now just like Israel the regime in India has enough power to take care of this constantly building international pressure.

In international relations and Geo-politics, diplomacy is a powerful tool but can’t be productive all the time, in the case of Kashmir, the Israeli model might bare results way much faster than it did in Palestine. Since Indian economy is growing at a rapid pace. Moreover, diplomatically, militarily, economically and legally; India is in a better position as compared to Israel. Israel along with political and diplomatic support is offering India all kinds of assistance in successfully executing its model in Kashmir. Israel is offering its services in terms of intelligence, defense production, capacity building and what they describe as “Counter-Terrorism”.

Read more: Pakistan welcomes joint statement by six human rights organisations on Kashmir

India is now deploying its tools to wage Network-centric warfare in the longer run. But in the last few months India in collaboration with Israel’s Military Industries is working on its Artillery Command & Control System (ACCS) along the LOC. The use of UAV drones and cluster bombs for the first time by the Indian army in Kashmir is a clear indication that they planned it on a script of Israel-Lebanon (2006); asymmetric warfare to keep Pakistan on its toes. This annexation is going to have long term implications.

Pakistan’s diplomatic campaign is futile, Pakistan even failed to organize the OIC conference on Kashmir, not only this, even majority of its allies haven’t come up with a strong stance on Kashmir expect Turkey, Malaysia and China. Pakistan already has limited options available — and even in that — Pakistani policymakers by ruling out the option of covert support for armed resistance — makes it very difficult to pull out any workable plans from the book. Even though, Kashmiris enjoy the legal right of armed resistance (just Like Palestinians), adopting this policy has only minimized the role and influence of Pakistan in Kashmir.

Moreover, in recent years the vacuum created by Pakistan’s non-interference was filled by other entities including Al-Qaeda and ISIS. Israel’s annexation of Jerusalem, Russian power in Ukraine and Iran’s influence in Iraq and Syria are great examples of how things work in Hybrid warfare with covert operations as the main driving force in the war. If India is following the Israeli model, Pakistan can follow the Iranian model of greater Syria.

Lessons from the Iranian model
Iran is keeping Israel on its toes by working on hard powerful deterrence through showing-off nukes, and, along with that the unpredictability of aggressive credible response to any aggression is the key in this model. The Iranian model includes organizing and building communities and a range of forces that are subject to its authority.

Keeping Israel focused on hard power, Iran is encircling Israel with the help of different proxies and meanwhile is working on capacity building of its proxies. Iran is providing these proxies a range of missiles, rockets, radars and advanced weapons which are important tools in Asymmetric warfare. This could have been impossible without strong diplomacy. Iran, with the help of Russia, is enhancing its defense capabilities along with its political influence in the region under the Russian umbrella.

Pakistan can design a similar model. Just like Iran and Russia had common interests, Pakistan and China have common interests in Kashmir. Pakistan needs to encircle India in Kashmir by building strong forces in the region. Pakistan can give GB and Kashmir autonomy over security affairs. They can take steps in that direction including making conscription mandatory for the people of GB and Kashmir, setup own military force or full corps within the Pakistan army. These forces can launch a series of special operations inside Kashmir to disturb the Indian plans of demographic change.

Read more: A Kashmiri’s experience of living in Delhi

Diplomacy is another important element in the Iranian model, Pakistan needs to engage its allies at least on the scale of OIC to announce travel restrictions for these new illegal settlers. There are many aspects of this model and need extensive study. But through the aforementioned approach, Pakistan could stop annexation of Kashmir.

https://www.globalvillagespace.com/...-israel-offers-valuable-lessons-for-pakistan/

Iran has oil to finance their activities. What does Pakistan have ?

If you look at the map there was lot of countries separating Iran from Israel. Hence the proxy model works
There is nothing separating you from India

Iran has only deployed force where there is a Shia majority and where there is huge fitna and war.
Sadly we Pakistani must learn that no OIC support will come. No muslims countries will stand by us at our time of need. If we embark on a fight then we must be able to see it through politically and militarily. Sadly politically we are very weak and corrupt. Militarily how many months can we fight? How much fuel and ammo reserves do we have and do we have the will to fight for our kashmiri brother amongst whom a significant minority want an independent kashmir.

has pakistani army ever had more than 3 weeks of military supplies in its history ?
 
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