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Kargil : Indian Army's operation "Vijay" was ineffective

You lack analytical capability.

India claimed Operation Vijay was a success.

My research shows, IAF was ineffective and IA even more so... in the end US pressure resulted in Pakistan's withdrawal and hence ending the border war. General Zinni endorses the same... ie No skill on the Indian Army


The end point to keen followers is what happened in Galwan is of no surprise. Indian Army is well behind China and Pakistan in terms of soldier quality and tactics.
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Is the America pressure too stoping you from taking the siachin from the incompetent Indian army or is the incompetence of your army which is stopping it.
End resul you vacated kargil and we still have siachin and kargil.
You lost two helis and a jet
we had an abhinandon back then as well who we returned soon after.
,funny back then indian media didnt claim we returned him out of fear .lol
Hey don't blame the Indian media they were quoting the below one.
 
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Lol.
India has already successfully retaliated back by capturing Point 5310 which is located one kilometer deep on Pakistani side of LoC and is far more strategically important than 5353.

More importantly the peak of 5353 lies on Pakistani side of LOC so Pakistan is actually not on Indian side of LoC.

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As I said...linguistic gymnastics, twists and turns ain't gonna get you anything...you lost, get over it.
 
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The Pakistanis did not expect India to bring in the Bofors to those heights. That turned the tide and Pakistanis could no longer even maintain their own supply routes. Speaking of PoWs - here are a few -
All returned btw -

PoW interviews start from 9.00


 
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Lol.
India has already successfully retaliated back by capturing Point 5310 which is located one kilometer deep on Pakistani side of LoC and is far more strategically important than 5353.

More importantly the peak of 5353 lies on Pakistani side of LOC so Pakistan is actually not on Indian side of LoC.

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Lol. If you use indian version of google map it will also show AJK as part of Indian.

Your Fascist government literally arrests people for using correct map. What a bunch of insecure sissies.
 
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from the horse's mouth...



"Sharif was reluctant to withdraw before the meeting with Clinton was announced (again, his problem was maintaining face); but after I insisted, he finally came around and he ordered the withdrawal. We set up a meeting with Clinton in July."






this should clear any doubt that indian army was effective..... as shown by it's poor performance in recent times, they were totally incompetent in driving out the superb North light Infantry...
Pakistan is still sitting on 5 to 6 peaks. Kargil exposed Indian Army weaknesses in a big way. Pakistan had only 2500 troops there. India brought 40000. India used 100 jets and on the other hand our boys were not backed by any Air Force and still they are sitting on the highest peak and few other peaks. So yes India can claim the victory all they want, the reality on ground is different.

@Jackdaws
 
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Pakistan is still sitting on 5 to 6 peaks. Kargil exposed Indian Army weaknesses in a big way. Pakistan had only 2500 troops there. India brought 40000. India used 100 jets and on the other hand our boys were not backed by any Air Force and still they are sitting on the highest peak and few other peaks. So yes India can claim the victory all they want, the reality on ground is different.

@Jackdaws
No one stopped you from bringing more soldiers or using your Air Force. Lol, if you were in such a winning position, why did you withdraw? Or why did your PM rush to Clinton?
 
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No one stopped you from bringing more soldiers or using your Air Force. Lol, if you were in such a winning position, why did you withdraw? Or why did your PM rush to Clinton?
cuz clinton could've ruined nawaz sharif by exposing nawaz sharif's hidden illicit properties & then threatening prosecution like mbs. still no achievement for the bhindian joker army. ;)
 
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No one stopped you from bringing more soldiers or using your Air Force. Lol, if you were in such a winning position, why did you withdraw? Or why did your PM rush to Clinton?
Our lack of planning or the crap operation done by leadership doesn't washes away your faults. It was 2500 vs 40000. It was 100 jets vs no jets. And still the war goes for more then 2 months and still you miserably fail to get all the peaks back. So yes you can all the propaganda that you won but in reality you destroyed your image of Pakistan not being able to defeat you. It was Para Military Forces vs proper Army. Still we are sitting on several peaks in that region including point 5353. So please continue to be arrogant that would only make sure you learn nothing and repeat same blunders. Which you did in 2002.
 
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Lol.
India has already successfully retaliated back by capturing Point 5310 which is located one kilometer deep on Pakistani side of LoC and is far more strategically important than 5353.

More importantly the peak of 5353 lies on Pakistani side of LOC so Pakistan is actually not on Indian side of LoC.

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another F-16 like claim..

your Americans masters have spoken.. it was they who did the work.

Indian Army was ineffective as ever....11 weeks and nothing to show for.
 
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Our lack of planning or the crap operation done by leadership doesn't washes away your faults. It was 2500 vs 40000. It was 100 jets vs no jets. And still the war goes for more then 2 months and still you miserably fail to get all the peaks back. So yes you can all the propaganda that you won but in reality you destroyed your image of Pakistan not being able to defeat you. It was Para Military Forces vs proper Army. Still we are sitting on several peaks in that region including point 5353. So please continue to be arrogant that would only make sure you learn nothing and repeat same blunders. Which you did in 2002.

Your "lack of planning and crap operation done by leadership" isn't our fault. It's yours. Again, why didn't you throw in more troops and jets?
another F-16 like claim..

you Americans masters have spoken.. it was they who did the work.

Indian Army was ineffective as ever....11 weeks and nothing to show for.
Lol. Is that why first Sartaz Aziz came to India asking for a meeting? And when India didn't stop pounding, Nawaz went to Clinton? Haha
 
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Your "lack of planning and crap operation done by leadership" isn't our fault. It's yours. Again, why didn't you throw in more troops and jets?

Lol. Is that why first Sartaz Aziz came to India asking for a meeting? And when India didn't stop pounding, Nawaz went to Clinton? Haha
You Indians keep reminding me how better we are by separating you. Mr question is that we had only 2500 troops. You brought 40000 troops backed by 100 fighter jets. Real questions to ask here is why war still went on for more then two months. And why you miserably failed to get all the peaks back.
 
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You Indians keep reminding me how better we are by separating you. Mr question is that we had only 2500 troops. You brought 40000 troops backed by 100 fighter jets. Real questions to ask here is why war still went on for more then two months. And why you miserably failed to get all the peaks back.
Didn't we get the peaks that were earlier in your possession too? Like 5310?
We had the money and the resources - so we used them to achieve our military objectives. Doesn't matter whether we needed 40,000 or 400,000. Do the Germans ask the Soviets why they used so many troops to take back Stalingrad and claim victory?

Now, why did your leadership run to the US? Or why didn't you use your Air Force or send reinforcements?
 
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Your "lack of planning and crap operation done by leadership" isn't our fault. It's yours. Again, why didn't you throw in more troops and jets?

Lol. Is that why first Sartaz Aziz came to India asking for a meeting? And when India didn't stop pounding, Nawaz went to Clinton? Haha
We didn't need to throw more troops. We got the strategic height we wanted in spite of india having 3 times as many troops, bigger air farts err I mean force & a treacherous pro indian noora sharif government. so the real question is is that in spite of having so many things in your favor including amreeka on your side, how the hell did your incompetent military still end up loosing the highest strategic peak in the region? and don't gimme that point 5310 load of crap, that's like the rape victim saying she won cuz she had an orgasm while getting raped! :lol:
 
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Didn't we get the peaks that were earlier in your possession too? Like 5310?
We had the money and the resources - so we used them to achieve our military objectives. Doesn't matter whether we needed 40,000 or 400,000. Do the Germans ask the Soviets why they used so many troops to take back Stalingrad and claim victory?

Now, why did your leadership run to the US? Or why didn't you use your Air Force or send reinforcements?
You could have used 80000 troops that is not the question. Question is despite this huge power you still failed to get all the peaks back. Your huge number and still failing to get all the peaks back is exactly what exposed you genius. But to understand that basic point you need basic common sense which you clearly lack.
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We didn't need to throw more troops. We got the strategic height we wanted in spite of india having 3 times as many troops, bigger air farts err I mean force & a treacherous pro indian noora sharif government. so the real question is is that in spite of having so many things in your favor including amreeka on your side, how the hell did your incompetent military still end up loosing the highest strategic peak in the region? and don't gimme that point 5310 load of crap 5k , that's like the rape victim saying she won cuz she had an orgasm while getting raped! :lol:
Not just highest but 5 more.
 
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You could have used 80000 troops that is not the question. Question is despite this huge power you still failed to get all the peaks back. Your huge number and still failing to get all the peaks back is exactly what exposed you genius. But to understand that basic point you need basic common sense which you clearly lack.

Not just highest but 5 more.
Lol. Right genius. Not only were you being evicted point by point but your leadership ran to the US. And even after that you even lost peaks which were under your control before the conflict began. Congrats.
 
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