Karachi Violence .. Updates & Discussion ..

[Wadera]

Who are these terrorists who were involved in the attack on a Police Bus?

Public hanging for these bastards

 

[Nothing]

the recent episode of News Night With Talat on Dawn is very infomative on Karachi's situtation. IF someone has access to it, do post. One point that he mentioned, of many others, was that there is 6-8 caror rs of bhatta collected in Karachi everyday. Last month suddenly saw a spike in targeted killing, the reason being, bhatta in the guise of zakat for the month of ramzan. Now that there are multiple groups that collect bhatta or zakat, they started eliminating their competition so less groups have access to huge amounts of bhatta in ramzan.

60-80 million PKR daily... bigger the amount bigger the trail of it.. No one can keep so much of money in cash .. there has to be a system to support it channel it and transfer it to all those goons who works for gangs.
Government should target these system to break backbone of gangs. People should collectively say no to batta...
If some gang is operating in market all traders should say no collectively ... All verticals of society should be against them ..
There are no other options ..

 

[Areesh]

60-80 million PKR daily... bigger the amount bigger the trail of it.. No one can keep so much of money in cash .. there has to be a system to support it channel it and transfer it to all those goons who works for gangs.
Government should target these system to break backbone of gangs. People should collectively say no to batta...
If some gang is operating in market all traders should say no collectively ... All verticals of society should be against them ..
There are no other options ..

Well I was listening the news. The traders have said that they aren't going to give any Bhatta and many are saying that they will answer bullet with bullet.

I hope they kill some of those thugs.

 

[Porus]

those men are fugly......what a bunch of degenerates

You have correctly judged the physical appearance of these beauties but who the hell are these Bengalis and Madhuris? lol....

 

[faisaljaffery]

Karachi should be given under control of army and emergency should be declared there.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

a VERY well-written piece on Karachi's law and order, with some historical context, and some solutions forward.

Reforming Karachi's Police

By Bilal Baloch


Karachi suffers from a terrible disease. This illness has been fierce at times, and calmer at others, but has remained in place for over 25 years. It has darkened the life of every human in the City of Lights. Certainly, it has spread so deeply throughout, and within, Karachi that sights of the city burning have become part of the inhabitants' immunity. "Business as usual" many muse. Indeed, 16 years ago, the deadly illness of chronic violence killed over 2000 people. In the first half of 2011 alone, 1,138 people have been killed by it; 490 of them targeted on political, sectarian, and ethnic grounds. And amidst this carnage, the ideal healers, the police, are found wanting.

Patron-client relationships permeate every level of life in Karachi. At the top, political parties keep a keen watch over criminal groups and gangs. These gangs perform duties for the parties including canvassing, illegally occupying land on the behalf of party workers or politicians themselves, providing personal security, and intimidating opponents or rivals. In turn, gangs gain in two ways. Firstly, they are allowed to continue with their illicit activities, including drug, alcohol, and gun running, as political parties overlook the legal transgressions of their minions. Secondly, and inextricably linked to the city's political corruption, they gain protection from the very police that should be hounding them.

Yet it is not the police themselves who are entirely to blame for the breakdown of law and order, but rather a system whereby politicians are able to use the police according to their whims. It is in some ways easy to vilify the police, to claim, as many do, that they can be bought, that they protect politicians instead of the people, or that they are more abusive than the actual criminals. As such, several writers have given their theories about what can, and should, be done to improve the conditions of a dire force. Voices within the system, for instance, often speak of improving the equipment and living conditions of the police as a means to fight corruption and build professionalism. Yet material changes alone will not fix the institutional problems and political culture that have continually held the police back as an instrument of law and order. A revolution in police affairs needs to take place with regards to the relationship between the police and the province's politicians.

The toxic political and security culture in Sindh province draws its institutional memory directly from the colonial period, the origin in many ways of the patron-client mentality that remains entrenched for Sindh's rulers and ruled alike. This has been recently reinforced with the decision to revive the Police Act of 1861 in Sindh, which replaced the updated, and far less damaging, police law of 2002. The latter law had much needed provisions, including the creation of complaint cells, better station facilities and equipment, and, most importantly, increased accountability of the police to a criminal justice coordination committee headed by a district and session judge. However, though it looked the part on paper, the laws were never fully, or well, implemented, resulting in a mutilated law.

The Police Act of 1861 came into being after the 1857 War of Independence (or Sepoy Mutiny as it is known abroad). The then-colonial Governor of Sindh, Sir Charles Napier, sought to emulate the Irish Constabulary model used for military-style policing in that other, closer British colony. This Constabulary was created initially with the sole purpose of suppressing armed rebellions, sectarian riots or agrarian disturbances. According to a report by Dr. Muhammed Shoaib Suddle -- the former deputy inspector general in Karachi and head of the Pakistan Intelligence Bureau -- the intent of the law was to keep "the natives on a tight leash" and to ensure that the police was not organized as a "politically neutral outfit for fair and just enforcement of law." The Colonial masters would keep the police chained to their authority by forcing the police to refer onto them, specifically the Chief Secretary, all major questions concerning the control, distribution and discipline of the force. In precisely the same way, the main stays of provincial politics in Sindh -- the landed and industrial elites of the ruling Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) -- seek to ensure that the police continue to do their bidding under a restored, but equally undemocratic, system. The Act has in the past, for instance, provided legal cover for successive provincial governments to use the police for partisan purposes without sufficient checks and balances. And one only need drive past the home of the controversial Senior Minister for Works, Services and Forestry, Dr. Zulfiqar Mirza, to see a force of some 20 police officers guarding a premises where he infrequently resides, in addition to the personal guards kept to patrol the 10-foot high walls of the private mansion. Within this milieu, the police, handcuffed to the power of their patrons by law and practice, in addition to searching for greater revenue to balance out their poor salaries, come together to compound security concerns, and the police become the protector of the politicos rather than the public.

In light of these failings, some efforts by the public have been made seek alternative methods of protection. In the late 1980s, when elite families in the city came under threat from bandits, kidnappers and criminals, they blamed the paucity of the police. The brass was too busy looking after the politicians, and so the wealthy sought to take care of themselves. A group of businessmen, lawyers, and other professionals set up the Citizens-Police Liaison Committee (CPLC) in 1989 to handle the new wave of lawlessness. It was not a police force per se, but rather an investigative unit to facilitate negotiations and gather data on crime. With up to 80% of funding arriving from private donors who wanted protection for their families, a parallel community watch system was set up. CPLC's Savile Row-clad workers facilitated negotiations and visited wealthy families' homes, while the investigative officers robustly gathered intel on criminals and major incidents. The CPLC soon became the first phone call beyond the police itself, and was even included in the Police Order 2002, to work alongside the main police force. But the set-up has obvious limitations. After all, the organization could not, and to a large extent cannot, deal with the deep levels of crime in the city, and do not have the personnel to function outside of a certain slice of the city's society. The CPLC must be led by a strong police in order to operate effectively. Elsewhere, and most recently, a former high level official of the CPLC tells me that the organization has met what he calls an unfortunate, but "inevitable," end: it has become politicized in its own right.

It would be foolish to conclude that strengthening the facilities, salaries, and training of the police is completely futile. Indeed, the relative success of the motorway police -- which often shows little mercy in fining the most powerful politician or bureaucrat -- is a case in point. They have a higher recruitment of college graduates, are better-equipped and -trained across the board (they even receive instruction in proper etiquette in how to speak with those they apprehend), and have higher salaries, thus decreasing the likelihood of turning their heads away from transgressions in return for a quick buck. But the urban setting of a city such as Karachi, with its deeply-ingrained culture of violence, needs a police far beyond the capabilities of the motorway force, which does not encounter the daily challenge of facing gun toting criminals and threatening political workers at every corner.

But some lessons can still be derived from the experience of the CPLC and the motorway police. Aside from implementing the aforementioned changes experienced by the latter, the police's organizational structure needs to be more akin to that first laid out in the 2002 reforms, together with institutionally demarcating -- and lawfully accounting for -- when politicians can tap into state security forces for personal security, increasing the professionalism of the police, and making the police the number one priority of state, and international, funds. By making the police establishment a public policy priority and a more professional force, the mindsets of police officers will, in turn, change drastically. Right now, the police play second, third, and fourth fiddle to the Frontier Constabulary, paramilitary Rangers, and Army respectively, in Karachi, and behave accordingly. Institutional changes and legal barriers between Karachi's political elite and a newly-professionalized force can go some way towards building an effective police force that can deal with Karachi's chronic violence. But for the change to be truly complete, the city's elite themselves will have to change the paradigm through which they view security and the proper role of law enforcement, and bring about a true shift in "business as usual" in Karachi.







Bilal Baloch is a graduate student at the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy at Tufts University. He is currently conducting field research in Karachi. You can follow him on twitter @babaloch

 

[Pukhtoon]

Who are these terrorists who were involved in the attack on a Police Bus?

Didnt saw any Post from MQM spokesperson Mr izat e Maab Janab Karachtie after this post .

And where are SMR and Pak marine ?

PLease for GOD SAKE stop defending these Basterd politicians They are all the same.ANP MQM PMLN PPP all are them same.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

what a cowardly attack......those who are responsible for killing public servants should be hung upside down and never see daylight again

these people with arms who are killing eachother and firing at law enforcement personnel are enemies of the country. Those supporting them and allowing them to stockpile arms are also enemies of Pakistan --as i see it.

 

[Elmo]

Such a shame - nearly 600 posts about the outrageous situation in Karachi on this thread alone, and not a thing has changed.

I wonder what will bring about a curtailment of this violence.

It's Ramadan - enough is enough.

Can men stop being selfish mortals in this month - or may be it's too much to ask now.

 

[laiqs@mi]

Such a shame - nearly 600 posts about the outrageous situation in Karachi on this thread alone, and not a thing has changed.

I wonder what will bring about a curtailment of this violence.

It's Ramadan - enough is enough.

Can men stop being selfish mortals in this month - or may be it's too much to ask now.

Sir
Ramzan is for Muslims
these killers who for very little bennifit kill innocent people they are not muslims and even they are not humans.
they are very low creatures.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

no new phenomenon...forget 600 posts....

since 1990s this is going on, only its taken a few new twists and turns. Karachiites (Pakistanis in general) have had this unshakable proclivity to allow scum-bags to rule them

i think the residents of Karachi are due for some fresh air; the traffic and pollution is affecting their brains

 

[Evil Flare]

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[Evil Flare]

President summons Zulfiqar Mirza in Islamabad


ISLAMABAD: President Asif Ali Zardari has summoned Sindh’s senior minister for Works and Services Dr. Zulfiqar Mirza at the President House in Islamabad on Tuesday morning, SAMAA reported.

According to presidential spokesman Farhat Ullah Babar, President has issued directives to Zulfiqar Mirza to immediately reach Islamabad and hold meeting with the latter.

Sources said that President would ask Mirza for explanation regarding his outburst against Federal Interior Minister Abdul Rehman Malik, which the latter uttered during the meeting of Sindh Cabinet on Monday.

Also, the Premier Yusuf Raza Gilani was present in the meeting.

As per Mirza’s statement, he heavily criticized federal minister over his frequent visits to Karachi, considering it interference into the security matters of Karachi. The minister had said it was the responsibility of Sindh government instead of federation to ensure peace in metropolis.

During the meeting, Mirza spoke over joint interrogation team’s report on violence and killings in Karachi, sending the assembly in disarray.

Later, several television channels reported issues relating to emergence of chaos during cabinet meeting, prompting Zardari to summon the minister at Presidency.

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Karachi turmoil takes 13 more lives


KARACHI: On one hand, top-level meetings are taking place in Karachi, while on the other hand, unarmed citizens are being murdered.

After kidnapping and killing, people are now being targeted inside their offices. Once again today, unidentified miscreants took 13 lives. Terrorists achieve their target with ease.

In the latest attack, two men were shot down near Garden Gymkhana. One man was gunned down in Patel Para. A youth was killed in Shireen Jinnah Colony.

Three dead bodies were found in Landhi, PIB Colony and Gulshan-e-Iqbal.

Earlier, unknown gunmen barged into an office of Water Board and shot four workers to dead.

The victims were identified as Assistant Executive Engineer Anwarullah, Xen. Chaudhry Altaf, clerk Arif and Qadir. Their dead bodies were shifted to Civil Hospital.

Citizens have appealed to pubic representative to show some mercy on them and take quick action instead of calling meetings after meetings.

They also demanded that arrested men should be brought before media.

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Transporters, traders support MQM mourning call


KARACHI: Transport operators and business community expressed their support for mourning call given by Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) over Karachi unrest.

Earlier, MQM leader Dr. Farooq Sattar announced that his party would observe a nationwide mourning on Tuesday against the killing of innocent mohajirs in Karachi.

The MQM leader also appealed to people to hoist black flags against the killings and abduction of mohajir youths.

In a statement, Karachi Transport Ittehand (KTI) said that it would keep their buses off the roads in response to the MQM’s mourning call.

Similarly, All Pakistan Traders Alliance (APTA) has also extended its support to the mourning call.

 

[pak-marine]

Didnt saw any Post from MQM spokesperson Mr izat e Maab Janab Karachtie after this post .

And where are SMR and Pak marine ?

PLease for GOD SAKE stop defending these Basterd politicians They are all the same.ANP MQM PMLN PPP all are them same.

Hazrat pukhtoon plz re-watch and let me know where was it said these people belonged to MQM ?

 

[pak-marine]

since 1990s this is going on, only its taken a few new twists and turns. Karachiites (Pakistanis in general) have had this unshakable proclivity to allow scum-bags to rule them

i think the residents of Karachi are due for some fresh air; the traffic and pollution is affecting their brains

All i have to say if this is how a senior professional members thinks ...i am not surprised as why is every thing going wrong in our country ... sad we have professionals like you .