kalu_miah's new world order, a road map for the future

[NeutralCitizen]

do we want bangladesh to join india? are u crazy? why are we spending billions fencing the border?

Akhand Bharat provides India the Defense Borders and Living space needed for the future.

 

[Shinigami]

Akhand Bharat provides India the Defense Borders and Living space needed for the future.

we also need a symbol like a swastika and then we can go after the joos

 

[NeutralCitizen]

we also need a symbol like a swastika and then we can go after the joos

 

[OrionHunter]

NWO 2050 onwards:

The most likely grouping where we're concerned:

> Russia+CIS Republics+China+India+Pakistan+Afghanistan+All other South Asian countries+Brazil+South Africa

Surprised? By then all boundary issues as well as Kashmir would have been solved. Pakistan's terror problem would have been resolved and it would have one of the fastest growing economies like the rest of this grouping.

This grouping will be the dominant one and America and its allies would have faded in the background. The days of Western hegemony would be over.

By 2120 there would be a one-world government represented by various groupings in a world parliament. There would be a common currency and free trade amongst all nations.


This seems hare brained as of now. But the world is already changing and this scenario will most likely come to pass.

Cheers!

 

[NeutralCitizen]

Hindu Prophecy has foretold the division of Akhand Bharat and it's Reunion to fight the red serpent which characterizes the Red Dragon(China), The Elephant(India) will battle the Red Dragon(China) that will plunge the world into a 1000 years of darkness.

 

[NeutralCitizen]

NWO 2050 onwards:

The most likely grouping where we're concerned:

> Russia+CIS Republics+China+India+Pakistan+Afghanistan+All other South Asian countries+Brazil+South Africa

Surprised? By then all boundary issues as well as Kashmir would have been solved. Pakistan's terror problem would have been resolved and it would have one of the fastest growing economies like the rest of this grouping.

This grouping will be the dominant one and America and its allies would have faded in the background. The days of Western hegemony would be over.

By 2120 there would be a one-world government represented by various groupings in a world parliament. There would be a common currency and free trade amongst all nations.


This seems hare brained as of now. But the world is already changing and this scenario will most likely come to pass.

Cheers!

A one world government means the end of all things.

 

[Bhairava]

Neutral Citizen :

Even if Pakistanis or Bangladeshis (in the most unlikely of the case) want to rejoin India, we (Indians) are so NOT going to agree to that.

We are definitely better off without them as part of our country for many reasons.

 

[NeutralCitizen]

Neutral Citizen :

Even if Pakistanis or Bangladeshis (in the most unlikely of the case) want to rejoin India, we (Indians) are so NOT going to agree to that.

We are definitely better off without them as part of our country for many reasons.

But Hindu Prophecy has foretold the division of Akhand Bharat and it's Reunion to fight the red serpent which characterizes the Red Dragon(China), The Elephant(India) will battle the Red Dragon(China) that will plunge the world into a 1000 years of darkness.

 

[Bhairava]

But Hindu Prophecy has foretold the division of Akhand Bharat and it's Reunion to fight the red serpent which characterizes the Red Dragon(China), The Elephant(India) will battle the Red Dragon(China) that will plunge the world into a 1000 years of darkness.

That is during the case they not only revert to the parent political entity , but also to the native faith system.

But since that is not possible I see no point in discussing this "Akhand Bharat" crap again. As for taking on China, India in its present form is sufficient.

 

[NeutralCitizen]

That is during the case they not only revert to the parent political entity , but also to the native faith system.

But since that is not possible I see no point in discussing this "Akhand Bharat" crap again. As for taking on China, India in its present form is sufficient.

China-India Union ? since Kalu_miahs seems to hate both ? as besides chinese and indians are made for each other.

 

[Bhairava]

China-India Union ? since Kalu_miahs seems to hate both ? as besides chinese and indians are made for each other.

China and India even if they dont form a union will have a mutual strategic detente between them and good trade ties.

As far as I can see, another India china war is so NOT happening, irrespective of what fanbois from Pak,BD,China or even India think.

BTW where did you get the elephant and serpent picture from..? Seems fascinating.

 

[Skallagrim]

Akhand Bharat provides India the Defense Borders and Living space needed for the future.

India knows annexing Bangladesh would undermine it's social harmony. Both of us agree that in spite of ethnic unity we are mutually incompatible. It's in India's best interest to keep Bangladesh a separate but weak entity.

 

[marshall]

Large Systems hypothesis:
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Funny, isn't it, those events actually are known to have macro-historical importance, although there is debate on these issues.

Interesting take on many historical/social/cultural/political developments. I think you like most amateur historians fall victim to a pervasive weakness which is that I believe you are perhaps subconsciously placing undo emphasis of the world social / cultural / political situation of relatively recent world history and relating everything backwards to the distant past. Good attempt though, although common sense often needs to be used when analyzing history that is written by prominent powers of the day writing history in their favor.

 

[kalu_miah]

Eurasian Union for Central Asia, Kazakhstan has already joined.

Former Soviet Central Asia and Russia have much in common, as both were part of the Romanov empire and later became part of Soviet Union. These parts of Central Asia have been thoroughly Russianized, some city dwellers speak nothing but Russian. But since the fall of Soviet Union, there is centrifugal force pulling them away. What ex-KGB aparatchiks (except Kyrgyzstan) in power plan and do now in all these states, may have little bearing on their future. People's voice will be heard only when there are much more representative govt.'s in the region. Till that transition happens, every move now, including this Eurasian union is being built on very very shaky foundation. The main stumbling block of this proposed Eurasian Union:

- resurgent ethnic nationalism in all these states
- colonial memory from earlier Soviet periods, forced collectivization, settling of nomad populations and resulting famine
- increasing religiosity as a part of the atheist population slowly revert back to their former religions
- increasing number of Muslims with high birth rate may turn this union into a majority Muslim state, already Russian army has disproportionate percentage of Muslim recruits, mainly from Kavkaz (caucasus) and Tatar populations
- Ukraine may not join, as it may go with EU
- as before no warm water port, which makes it dependent on China and Southern states

So for now, we have to wait for political evolution and more democratization. This will then help the people in these states find their voice and help them determine the future direction of their states.

 

[kalu_miah]

But Hindu Prophecy has foretold the division of Akhand Bharat and it's Reunion to fight the red serpent which characterizes the Red Dragon(China), The Elephant(India) will battle the Red Dragon(China) that will plunge the world into a 1000 years of darkness.

From the posts from Indian and Bangladeshi members, I think its quite clear why an Akhand Bharat (undivided India) is not possible now or in the foreseeable future. It was a Hindu Nationalist dream to keep British India united, but 25% Muslims were scared that they would face hard times in a majority Hindu India.

Hindu's are allergic to Muslims calling the shots, due to historical bad memory, so they will never want a Akhand Bharat which has 500 million Muslims and may turn this Bharat majority Muslim, depending on Muslim birth rate. Only Nepal and Bhutan may become parts of an union with India.

Even Sri Lanka wants to join ASEAN, like Bangladesh, both of whom are members of ARF, Asean Regional Forum. East Timor, Papua New Guinea and North Korea are the other states that may join ASEAN. Without South Korea and Japan teaming up and without support from the West, this ASEAN+ union will remain a pipe dream.