Jordan Salafi Leader Warns of Chaos

[al-Hasani]

And we are thankful to our Israeli brothers. You guys helped Saddam and someone had to help us, but their help wasn't as significant as your financial aids, loans, mercenaries, intelligence, etc... to Iraq. Even tiny Singapore helped Saddam with Chemical components for his Chemical weapons program.

We (people of Iran) didn't have any problem with Israel in the first place, they were building our country before the revolution and we were supplying them with oil, I say that was a win-win. While I might have disagreement with some of Israel's policy regarding Iran, they're our natural allies, and if they are willing to help crush ISIS scum just accept it.



They should.

I was counter-trolling @F117 as he likes to claim that the Arab world are best buddies with Israel and he wants to keep the false narrative of Iran being a "part of the resistance against the evil West" alive.

Well, most of the Arab countries supported a fellow Arab country in Iraq. Nothing surprising about that. Especially not when Al-Hindi made no secret of wanting to spread his "Islamic" revolution to the entire Islamic world and in particular the nearby Arab world as all the Muslim holy sites are located in that region of the world.

The countries that fought each other and their regimes did not have the best ot track records either in any case.

Well you can become best buddies with the apartheid state if that's what you want. I for once do not want KSA to have relations with Israel if they do not recognize a Palestinian state. They are not needed for anything as long as we have allies from across the world. Be it USA, China, France, UK, Latin America, fellow Muslim and Arab countries etc.

 

[Targon]

@Neptune @atatwolf @Targon @T-123456 is this true ? are circassians in Jordan salafi types?

Dunno about Jordan, but in Turkey Chechens are conservative while actual Circassians(Adyge) are relatively less conservative and secular.

 

[Militant Atheist]

I was counter-trolling @F117 as he likes to claim that the Arab world are best buddies with Israel and he wants to keep the false narrative of Iran being a "part of the resistance against the evil West" alive.

What's wrong with being friend of Israel? Israel is an advanced country, a country that you would want on your side.

Well, most of the Arab countries supported a fellow Arab country in Iraq. Nothing surprising about that. Especially not when Al-Hindi made no secret of wanting to spread his "Islamic" revolution to the entire Islamic world and in particular the nearby Arab world as all the Muslim holy sites are located in that region of the world.

I thought that Arabs would be more enthusiastic about a Non-Arab being more fervent about Islam than themselves?
In any case that war was a cruel war, majority of the world's countries tried to extinguish us. I have lost two brothers in that war, one as a direct result of that war and one indirectly.

Well you can become best buddies with the apartheid state if that's what you want. I for once do not want KSA to have relations with Israel if they do not recognize a Palestinian state. They are not needed for anything as long as we have allies from across the world. Be it USA, China, France, UK, Latin America, fellow Muslim and Arab countries etc.

If you really want to help Palestinians then you would have to establish formal diplomatic relation with Israel.

 

[al-Hasani]

What's wrong with being friend of Israel? Israel is an advanced country, a country that you would want on your side.



I thought that Arabs would be more enthusiastic about a Non-Arab being more fervent about Islam than themselves?
In any case that war was a cruel war, majority of the world's countries tried to extinguish us. I have lost two brothers in that war, one as a direct result of that war and one indirectly.



If you really want to help Palestinians then you would have to establish formal diplomatic relation with Israel.

There is nothing wrong with that if you support Israel. I just don't want relations with them until they are able to how a real desire for peace and until they will truly support a two-state solution.

Well, I am sorry to hear that. Wars are always dirty but it's more complicated than that.

Not this type of Islam I guess

Guardianship of the Islamic Jurists - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Maybe?! But I do believe that there are diplomatic relations already just not in the open.

It's just that Israel seems to become more radical by each year politically wise. I don't like that at all.

 

[Militant Atheist]

Not this type of Islam I guess

Haha... see its all about politics and influence. Just confess that you're an Atheist

Maybe?! But I do believe that there are diplomatic relations already just not in the open.

Of course. But I have always wanted good relations between Saudi and Iran. I don't think if hostility is necessary regardless of religious differences. Although I don't even believe in god, but to each his own

It's just that Israel seems to become more radical by each year politically wise. I don't like that at all.

Well, I don't know what to say. Netanyahu is a right-win guy, but there are others in Israel that are more pragmatic.

 

[al-Hasani]

Haha... see its all about politics and influence. Just confess that you're an Atheist



Of course. But I have always wanted good relations between Saudi and Iran. I don't think if hostility is necessary regardless of religious differences. Although I don't even believe in god, but to each his own



Well, I don't know what to say. Netanyahu is a right-win guy, but there are others in Israel that are more pragmatic.

I am not an atheist. At least not yet

I have nothing against Jews at all. I had a few Jewish friends in Paris. They are our cousins and most of them are good people. It's just that the Zionist's among them seem out of reach.

I think it is inevitable that the GCC countries and Iran will have relations again but I think that Iran needs a regime change for that or serious reforms as few Arab countries trust the current Iranian regime.

Well, Israel just seem to be heading in a wrong direction when it comes to the Palestine issue. Even Israel's closest friend has been critical.

Israel risks becoming apartheid state if peace talks fail, says John Kerry | World news | The Guardian

 

[Militant Atheist]

I am not an atheist. At least not yet

Come join the club. We need more people

I thing it is inevitable that the GCC countries and Iran will have relations again but I think that Iran needs a regime change for that or serious reforms as few Arab countries trust the current Iranian regime.

People of Iran are too afraid for a sudden change. All their efforts for a change in the past 100 years and so went into shit. So they learned their lesson, gradual change is the only option right now. A new regime won't be in your long-term interests anyway. Because it won't be Theocratic.

Well, Israel just seem to be heading in a wrong direction when it comes to the Palestine issue. Even Israel's closest friend has been critical.

Israel has powerful friends in the USA, moreover majority, if not all of US Christians support the State of Israel. Turkey's approach to aid the Palestinians has so far worked better than any other country. You don't throw rocket at a country that could wipe-out the entire earth several times over and its technology is literally in everything around you.

 

[al-Hasani]

Come join the club. We need more people



People of Iran are too afraid for a sudden change. All their efforts for a change in the past 100 years and so went into shit. So they learned their lesson, gradual change is the only option right now. A new regime won't be in your long-term interests anyway. Because it won't be Theocratic.



Israel has powerful friends in the USA, moreover majority, if not all of US Christians support the State of Israel. Turkey's approach to aid the Palestinians has so far worked better than any other country. You don't throw rocket at a country that could wipe-out the entire earth several times over and its technology is literally in everything around you.

No, not yet.

Besides I am a lone Arabian leopard as well.

I have no idea about that so I cannot comment on that topic. But it's true for large parts of the Arab world at least that people are uncertain about the future and many prefer status quo despite it not being perfect instead of the unknown.

I am not so sure about that. A non-theocratic Iran would not have any influence in the Arab world other than an economic one as they would then not be able to play the "Shia card" nor any nationalism/cultural cards. Focus would instead be drawn to countries that you have a cultural and historical closeness with.

Such as mainly Afghanistan and Tajikistan. If you ask me. Aside from opening up fully with the West.

But what the hell do I know?

Regarding Israel then all I am asking for is for them to accept/take those understandable measures.

 

[Pakistanisage]

The recent suicide attack in Riyadh seems to be connected with what is happening in Iraq....

 

[Chronos]

I am not an atheist. At least not yet

I have nothing against Jews at all. I had a few Jewish friends in Paris. They are our cousins and most of them are good people. It's just that the Zionist's among them seem out of reach.

I think it is inevitable that the GCC countries and Iran will have relations again but I think that Iran needs a regime change for that or serious reforms as few Arab countries trust the current Iranian regime.

Well, Israel just seem to be heading in a wrong direction when it comes to the Palestine issue. Even Israel's closest friend has been critical.

Israel risks becoming apartheid state if peace talks fail, says John Kerry | World news | The Guardian

Netanayahu seems to be an idiot. I especially disliked the smug prick, when he drew a cartoonish bomb to remind us all that Iran was the apocalypse incarnate.

The recent suicide attack in Riyadh seems to be connected with what is happening in Iraq....

what the?

When did this happen :/

Israel has powerful friends in the USA, moreover majority, if not all of US Christians support the State of Israel. Turkey's approach to aid the Palestinians has so far worked better than any other country. You don't throw rocket at a country that could wipe-out the entire earth several times over and its technology is literally in everything around you.

On one hand, I admire Israeli ingenuity. Their tenacity and perseverance. On the other hand, I do not like the fact that Israel is sliding into more right wing politics.

But then again, I am an Indian and it seems a bit hypocritical with Kashmir and all that.

 

[Shah9]

I wish to see al-Gaysani here in present when there would be turmoil spreading in either Jordan, Gulf or both. After all of his refutation, it will happen and the Jordanians are right!

 

[al-Hasani]

I wish to see al-Gaysani here in present when there would be turmoil spreading in either Jordan, Gulf or both. After all of his refutation, it will happen and the Jordanians are right!

Shah-Gay-9:

Yes, sure it will. Iran is the world superpower as well.

 

[SALMAN F]

I wish to see al-Gaysani here in present when there would be turmoil spreading in either Jordan, Gulf or both. After all of his refutation, it will happen and the Jordanians are right!

Watch your languege and don't insult the prophet grandson imam hassan name

 

[atatwolf]

@Neptune @atatwolf @Targon @T-123456 is this true ? are circassians in Jordan salafi types?

Circassians are very diversified. Some are Christian, some are Muslim, some or neither. I can only tell about my own exp with them. All Circassians I met were moderate muslim to atheist. I think mostly Chechens are salafi types because of oppression they have endured they turned exteremist. The Circassians were exterminated long time ago so they are not many of them in Russia to turn extremist. The Circassians in Turkey assimilated with the locals and live in freedom so there is no breeding ground for extremism.

 

[Ahmed Jo]

Whatever you say. I know better and so do other fellow Arabs (native Jordanians) included.

Circassians and some of the Palestinians (mainly in Zarqa) are the most conservative people.

By far the majority of all native Jordanians are fiercely loyal to the crown and are ruling the country. They are not interested in any uprising.

Circassians are absolutely loyal to the crown.

Fallen Gendarmerie officer laid to rest.
Amman, Aug 3 (Petra) -- A Gendarmerie officer, who was shot dead early Sunday by unidentified outlaws in the southern city of Ma'an, was laid to rest in a cemetery in his hometown in Western Amman.

Deputizing for His Majesty King Abdullah II, Interior Minister, Hussein Majali, joined hundreds of mourners in escorting Second Lieutenant, Nart Haitham Nafash to his final resting place in a cemetery in the Western Amman town of Bayader Wadi al-Seer.

A full military funeral was held for the fallen serviceman who was killed Monday dawn while on duty when a group of yet-to-be identified outlaws opened fire on a Gendarmerie patrol in Ma'an.

Among mourners were the army chief and the directors of the public security, the gendarmerie and civil defense departments and high ranking officers and fellow servicemen.

//Petra// AA

Also, look at this.

On the other hand, Bedouins entangled with the Salafist movement in no way represent the major Bedouin tribes loyal to the monarchy, who still represent the vast majority of Jordanian military personnel.

@Neptune @atatwolf @Targon @T-123456 is this true ? are circassians in Jordan salafi types?

No.