Jordan Salafi Leader Warns of Chaos

[T-123456]

@Neptune @atatwolf @Targon @T-123456 is this true ? are circassians in Jordan salafi types?

I dont know,you should ask @BLACKEAGLE ,he will know for sure.

 

[al-Hasani]

@Neptune @atatwolf @Targon @T-123456 is this true ? are circassians in Jordan salafi types?

Circassians only make up 2% of the population. Most are just known as Circassians while in reality a significant portion of them are Chechens and other Caucasians. They tend to be more conservative than many locals.

Hardened veterans of Chechnya’s two unsuccessful wars for independence from post-Soviet Russia have become a significant component within the groups of international extremist Islamist fighters ranging across the Middle East and South Asia. According to news reports, the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham (ISIS) in Iraq and Syria may include between 1,000 and 2,000 Chechen fighters. With ISIS now consolidating its position in western Iraq and seeking control over the Syria-Iraq border, Abdullah and his government would be appropriately concerned about their country’s northern and eastern borders and the extent to which Chechens already in Jordan might make common cause with ISIS militants outside it.

Read more: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/ori...ist-jihadists-threatening.html##ixzz36Wa2JkfH

Many sources in Arabic but you will not understand them.

When I talk about Circassians I mean Chechens in this case.

Most of the well-known Jordanians that had anything to do with militancy were Palestinians too.

 

[Psycho Pakistani]

most jordanian salafis are armed tribesmen

There are no tribesmen in jordan except few illiterate bedouins who live in desert areas near saudi arabia border. Jordanians are one of the most educated people in the middle east, they are an anomaly in the region.

 

[Informant]

Hasani seems to be in a mood today.

 

[al-Hasani]

Hasani seems to be in a mood today.

Ignorants just happen to annoy me. Especially if they are trying to argue for the sake of it against locals of the region (Arabs). Even after providing sources. Also there seem to be an invasion of them lately on this section and on the Arab one. I just correct them. They should thank me as they get wiser instead of spreading unfounded/unsourced nonsense.

This forum is read by thousands of people each day. They deserve to know the realities and should not be mislead.

Pakistani users have a duty to do the same about their affairs. I see them doing that every single day which is good as they educate us non-natives.

Or maybe you want Afghans and Indians to educate us on Pakistani affairs?

Yes, I am bit pissed off as France were beaten by Ze Germans.

 

[elszADaQ]

80% of Bedouin tribes are salafi and some are muslim brotherhood, but the threat isn't strong because most jordanians aren't bedouins

The majority of the population in Jordan will soon soon be Syrians and Palastinians.

 

[al-Hasani]

The majority of the population in Jordan will soon soon be Syrians and Palastinians.

There is a risk of that happening indeed but they, contrary to the vast majority of Palestinians that were hosted and afterwards granted citizenship after 1947, will not receive such a privilege. Like the Iraqis that came after 2003 who have not and like the Syrians who are currently in Jordan.

Jordan cannot afford to host more refugees let alone give them citizenship.

 

[elszADaQ]

There is a risk of that happening indeed but they, contrary to the vast majority of Palestinians that were hosted and aftetrwards granted citizenship after 1947, will not receive such a privilege. Like the Iraqis that came after 2003 who have not and like the Syrians who are currently in Jordan.

Jordan cannot afford to host more refugees let alone give them citizenship.

The issue is that the war in Syria is expected to be a war of attrition that'll probably last decades so weather the Jordanians grant those refugees citizenship or not, they are there to stay.

 

[al-Hasani]

The issue is that the war in Syria is expected to be a war of attrition that'll probably last decades so weather the Jordanians grant those refugees citizenship or not, they are there to stay.

This we cannot know with certainty. Most of the Iraqis have now left Jordan or will leave it for instance.

 

[F117]

Perhaps Jordan can request the help from their good neighbor, Israel, to crush the fundamentalist Sunni threat.

Israel: Ready to support, safeguard Jordan from ISIS | Al Bawaba

 

[al-Hasani]

Perhaps Jordan can request the help from their good neighbor, Israel, to crush the fundamentalist Sunni threat.

Israel: Ready to support, safeguard Jordan from ISIS | Al Bawaba

Yes, let us hope that they can follow in the footsteps of the great fake wannabe Arab Mullah's in Iran.

Israeli support for Iran during the Iran–Iraq war - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Militant Atheist]

Yes, let us hope that they can follow in the footsteps of the great fake wannabe Arab Mullah's in Iran.

Israeli support for Iran during the Iran–Iraq war - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And we are thankful to our Israeli brothers. You guys helped Saddam and someone had to help us, but their help wasn't as significant as your financial aids, loans, mercenaries, intelligence, etc... to Iraq. Even tiny Singapore helped Saddam with Chemical components for his Chemical weapons program.

We (people of Iran) didn't have any problem with Israel in the first place, they were building our country before the revolution and we were supplying them with oil, I say that was a win-win. While I might have disagreement with some of Israel's policy regarding Iran, they're our natural allies, and if they are willing to help crush ISIS scum just accept it.

Perhaps Jordan can request the help from their good neighbor, Israel, to crush the fundamentalist Sunni threat.

They should.

 

[e3nad3alek]

Why are you writting unfounded nonsense? There are close to no Bedouins in Jordan anymore. Yet 50% of the population are made up by local Jordanians of which most were/are not Bedouins. Besides the people who are still Bedouins or once were are descandents of the ancient Semitic Nabateans by a large.

By far the majority of all native Jordanians are Sunni Muslims of the Shafi'i fight. Same with the Palestinians.

The native Jordanians are the ruling class in Jordan. They are not interested in any uprising and are very loyal people. They dominate the military too.

@BLACKEAGLE

Look at all those empty unfounded nonsense claims here in this thread.

BBC News: most jordanians are originally palestinains

However, commentators said registration was relatively low, reflecting the opposition calls for a boycott and apathy among Jordanians of Palestinian origin, who make up 60% of the population but have little political power.

BBC News - Jordan sets date for early parliamentary elections

Soccer violence in the Middle East has often reflected ethnic and religious divides. More than 70 percent of Jordan's population is Palestinian while the Bedouin minority dominates the security forces.

Soccer riot ignites tension between Jordan's Bedouins, Palestinians

Figures from a recent census have been kept secret, but most people agree that Jordanians of Palestinian origin now represent a majority and may even number as much as 70 per cent of the country's estimated 6.4 million people. This demographic divide has an economic dimension.

Upheavals highlight tension between Jordan's Palestinians and 'East Bankers' | The National

 

[Alienoz_TR]

Inaccessiable to Jordanian sources here. Can you give me the details about Jordanian Nogais who are classified under Circassian?

Where do they live? Numbers? Political stance?

 

[al-Hasani]

@e3nad3alek

Western sources. Nothing official. Just estimates. It's about 50/50. Maybe now the Palestinians are the majority but it's not by much.

Not all Palestinians are citizens either so they should not be included.

You should not forget that many Palestinians themselves are of a ethnic Jordanian origin to begin with. Just as many people from Gaza can trace their origins to nearby Egypt.

In Jordan, there is no official census data for how many inhabitants are Palestinian but they are estimated to constitute half of the population,[10][11] which in 2008 amounted to about 3 million.[11] Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics put their number at 3.24 million in 2009.[12] There are more than two million registered Palestinian refugees in Jordan as of January 2012.[13]

Demographics of Jordan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Inaccessiable to Jordanian sources here. Can you give me the details about Jordanian Nogais who are classified under Circassian?

Where do they live? Numbers? Political stance?

99% of all people from Caucaus in Jordan and the Levant in general are either Circassians (majority) or Chechens.

If there are any Nogais in Jordan they constitute a few hundred individuals at most.

Circassians in Jordan: