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I wonder what the Zionists would have done with Jordan if it had remained open to settlement to them as planned and the Jews already there allowed to remain. When you think about photos of Israel you don't really think of the amphitheater in Caesarea, do you? Anti-Israelis think of violence and others mostly think about Israel's resorts, technology, building, and other accomplishments, or maybe have the idea of heading to the Holy Land for a religion-based tour.

Karak is no more an accomplishment of Jordan than Caesarea is of Israel. Why not delete the ancient stuff that has no connection of identity to the current populace?
 
I wonder what the Zionists would have done with Jordan if it had remained open to settlement to them as planned and the Jews already there allowed to remain. When you think about photos of Israel you don't really think of the amphitheater in Caesarea, do you? Anti-Israelis think of violence and others mostly think about Israel's resorts, technology, building, and other accomplishments, or maybe have the idea of heading to the Holy Land for a religion-based tour.

Karak is no more an accomplishment of Jordan than Caesarea is of Israel. Why not delete the ancient stuff that has no connection of identity to the current populace?

Jews are rootless, they have no history, and for the old Jews, they were all finished in wars with Crusaders and others, Very few left in Palestine. Without USA, Israel is nothing but an entity living over the empathy of others. Like all super powers, USA will diminish one day and till then we will see the super Israel end.

Karak

An ancient Crusader stronghold, Karak sits 900m above sea level and lies inside the walls of the old city. The city today is home to around 170,000 people and continues to boast a number of restored 19th century Ottoman buildings, restaurants, places to stay, and the like. But it is undoubtedly Karak Castle that dominates.

The town is built on a triangular plateau, with the castle at its narrow southern tip. The castle is some 220m long, 125m wide at the north end, and 40m wide at the southern end where a narrow valley deepened by a ditch separates it from the adjoining and much higher hill – once Saladin's favourite artillery position. Throughout the castle, dark and roughly-shaped Crusader masonry is easy to discern from the finely-crafted blocks of lighter and softer limestone used in later Arab work.

While the castle we see today essentially dates back to the 12th century, Karak has been a fortress since biblical times. The Bible relates how the King of Israel and his allies from Judah and Edom ravaged Moab and besieged its king Mesha in the fortress of Kir Heres, as Karak was then known.

Centuries later, it took the Crusaders some twenty years to erect their vast castle. Once finished in 1161, it became the residence of the lord of Transjordan, by then the most important fief of the Crusader kingdom, rich in produce and tax revenues. After withstanding several sieges in the early 1170s, Karak came under the rule of Reynald of Chatillon, a lord who became known for his recklessness and barbarism. Breaking all treaties, he began looting merchant caravans and Mecca-bound pilgrims, attacked the very homeland of Islam – the Hijaz – and raided Arabian ports on the Red Sea, even threatening Mecca itself. Saladin, the ruler of Syria and Egypt, reacted swiftly. He took the town of Karak by force, burned it down and almost managed to storm the castle as well.

Reynald’s peacetime robbery of a large caravan in 1177 prompted fast retribution from Saladin - who attacked the Crusader kingdom – ending in the defeat of the Crusader army at the Battle of Hattin. Saladin spared most of the captives except Reynald, who he executed himself. The defenders of Karak held out for eight months in a prolonged siege before surrendering to the Muslims who, mercifully, allowed them to walk free. Once again in Muslim hands, Karak became the capital of a district covering much of Jordan, playing a central role in Middle Eastern politics for the next two centuries. For a time, Karak even became capital of the whole Mameluk kingdom when Sultan an-Nasir Ahmad grew weary of power struggles in Cairo. Indeed, it took eight separate sieges before his brother and successor as-Salih Ismail took the fortress and returned the royal insignia. It was during these sieges that Karak had the dubious honour of being the first target of modern artillery in the Middle East, as-Salih Ismail making use of cannons and gunpowder.

Under the Ayyubids and early Mameluk sultans, the castle was substantially renovated and the town’s fortifications strengthened with massive towers but seemingly no gates – access to the town was through subterranean passages with entrances still visible today.

In later times, the town more often than not became a refuge for rebels, while the castle was used as the gathering place of tribal councils. Firm Turkish administration was enforced after 1894 and the Mameluk palace inside the castle was used as a prison. The Great Arab Revolt dealt the last blow to Turkish rule, which ended in 1918.
 
@BLACKEAGLE

strange but true, there is a Khyber and Karak in Pakistan also.

Anyway.. There is deadsea resort I heard if one gets a mud treatment one gets healthy ?

Is it true ?
 
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I wonder what the Zionists would have done with Jordan if it had remained open to settlement to them as planned and the Jews already there allowed to remain. When you think about photos of Israel you don't really think of the amphitheater in Caesarea, do you? Anti-Israelis think of violence and others mostly think about Israel's resorts, technology, building, and other accomplishments, or maybe have the idea of heading to the Holy Land for a religion-based tour.

Karak is no more an accomplishment of Jordan than Caesarea is of Israel. Why not delete the ancient stuff that has no connection of identity to the current populace?

For this part, many think of Israel as an illegible state that stole the lands of others, displaced them and oppressed them. A state that's based on terrorism, treated like a dear baby by superpowers.

@BLACKEAGLE

strange but true, there is a Khyber and Karak in Pakistan also.

Anyway.. There is deadsea resort I heard if one gets a mud treatment one gets healthy ?

Is it true ?

This is the first time I hear about this, I am not a fan of history, history teachers used to be dull as hell. :alcoholic:
Dead sea mud is very helpful in treating skin diseases, people from all around the world visit it for this.
 
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Jews are rootless, they have no history -
Embracing make-believe is a greater comfort to Arabs. Consider BE's quoted history, which cites no link between modern-day Jordanians and the monuments left by previous civilizations.
 
@BLACKEAGLE && @Solomon2 Quit it. both of you.

Will either of you two gents be kind enough to highlight any common Jewish / Islamic historical sites ?

BlackEagle I remember there were some monuments ... dead sea is also a religious site .. isnt it ?

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I need to plan Marriage X 3 in Jordan !
 
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Embracing make-believe is a greater comfort to Arabs. Consider BE's quoted history, which cites no link between modern-day Jordanians and the monuments left by previous civilizations.

You people are the most insolent, coming from Russia and the West and questioning others history, and their right to live in their own homeland. Tribes in Jordan have been living here for 6000 years. Read history rootless jew:
History of Jordan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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@Solomon2 you agree with the dead sea episode ( Lot and all ) ? The Jewish interpretation is same ?
@BLACKEAGLE

You need to keep posting more pictures like that one to keep peopple away from going the Lot way !
 
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Tribes in Jordan have been living here for 6000 years.
Then why are you posting Crusader drek built by invading and long-departed Franks? I'm asking you to focus and improve your work. I'm saying you're not doing a good job. I'm not denying history.
 
Then why are you posting Crusader drek built by invading and long-departed Franks? I'm asking you to focus and improve your work. I'm saying you're not doing a good job. I'm not denying history.

Because it's part of our history, built by franks yes but it's still a witness of Islam victories. Well, would you like to see historical buildings built by native Jordanian ancestors:

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Because it's part of our history, built by franks yes but it's still a witness of Islam victories. Well, would you like to see historical buildings built by native Jordanian ancestors -
Yes, much better! Though I'd like to see more pics of modern towns, parks, and glitzy royal gatherings as well.
 
It would have been nice if you had named the places in the pictures as well.
 

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