Jordan has finished compiling the list of terrorist organizations in Syria

[ultron]

https://twitter.com/x/status/677058887481212928

 

[Sharpshooter12]

Good work Jordan, now take some rest you must be tired.

On a serious note, Ahrar guys are quite moderate Islamists, and they often co-operate with FSA, why add them in the list.

 

[Sharpshooter12]

There is not FSA in Syria right now
All of the armed rebels are terrorist.

Baradar does that include Hizbullah, Fatemioun, Zaynabiyun and Shabiha as well or your definition just covers the sunni rebel groups.

 

[Daneshmand]

Baradar does that include Hizbullah, Fatemioun, Zaynabiyun and Shabiha as well or your definition just covers the sunni rebel groups.

The answer to your question is: No

Jordan is a Sunni country, and United Nations gave it the authority to prepare the list. The list includes groups with ideologies such as this: LeJ claims responsibility for Parachinar bazaar bomb - The Express Tribune

And this goes beyond Syria. From Peshawar to Paris to California to London, what we are seeing is that only Takfiri ideology births such hatred and such heinous terror.

 

[Falcon29]

The Jordanian regime is an illegitimate British regime which is holding the people of Jordan hostage. No one in Jordan shares these political sentiments that the regime does. Of course West assigned Jordan to make this list. Which in other words is West made the list but wants to pretend it's Jordan's fault once they start bombing the rebels.

Liwa Tawheed is a moderate group in Aleppo. They were put on because they are the MB representative in Syria. Clearly this list is compiled by Israel, British installed Arab regimes and the West. We the Arab people reject this list. Any declaration of war on the rebels is a declaration of war on all Arabs. The rebels should begin giving orders for their operatives in Jordan to prepare for the worst.

The endless war against Arab Sunnis has to come an end and won't be tolerated anymore. Does not matter which way foreigners frame it. They have no business what the local people choose. The war will become many times more dangerous if this conspiracy doesn't end. Unfortunately the West and corrupt Arab regimes want to destroy humanity and the earth. They need to back off and let people embrace freedom. If theres no freedom for the people of the region then the lives of foreigners will be disrupted. Nobody is forcing the West to commit aggression on Arab lands. They have no excuse for their actions. An immediate pullout of foreign forces must occur or else the whole region will destabalize.

 

[Ahmed Jo]

The Jordanian regime is an illegitimate British regime which is holding the people of Jordan hostage. No one in Jordan shares these political sentiments that the regime does. Of course West assigned Jordan to make this list. Which in other words is West made the list but wants to pretend it's Jordan's fault once they start bombing the rebels.

Liwa Tawheed is a moderate group in Aleppo. They were put on because they are the MB representative in Syria. Clearly this list is compiled by Israel, British installed Arab regimes and the West. We the Arab people reject this list. Any declaration of war on the rebels is a declaration of war on all Arabs. The rebels should begin giving orders for their operatives in Jordan to prepare for the worst.

The endless war against Arab Sunnis has to come an end and won't be tolerated anymore. Does not matter which way foreigners frame it. They have no business what the local people choose. The war will become many times more dangerous if this conspiracy doesn't end. Unfortunately the West and corrupt Arab regimes want to destroy humanity and the earth. They need to back off and let people embrace freedom. If theres no freedom for the people of the region then the lives of foreigners will be disrupted. Nobody is forcing the West to commit aggression on Arab lands. They have no excuse for their actions. An immediate pullout of foreign forces must occur or else the whole region will destabalize.

Please, free us, o mighty falcon.

 

[yolo2016]

Please, free us, o mighty falcon.

He can't, he is not exactly what we would call a brave son of palestine His contribution will be to forums only. part time,

 

[Daneshmand]

Please, free us, o mighty falcon.

They did try to free you: Black September in Jordan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

But then you guys brought in this man who saved you from being freed:

 

[Falcon29]

Please, free us, o mighty falcon.

If you think plight of Arab people isn't important than so be it. I can't change your mindset. I don't understand your positions though, Jordan gives two distinct impressions. One one hand it states Assad regime will not be part of solution, on other hand it alludes to the rebels being the primary concern. Jordan needs to make up its mind, I don't think Saudi Arabia is happy with that. But we know the situation in Syria, there is the government then there is paid mercenary that Jordan, West and other Arab nations sponsor. The paid mercenary have no objectives, they just take orders from the anti-Assad coalition. Assad on other hand is secular himself but Iran has forced its way on Syria. So both these options are not something most Arabs relate with. Then there is extremist irrational ISIS. Then there is Islamist opposition that doesn't belong in the camp. I prefer that option, it suits the region and the people. It's better than being a mercenary.

Now as for Jordanian people, to me they are irrelevant. Jordan has no use as a country, the only important asset to the West is the regime. So the Jordanian regime has to play the role of middleman. This is not viable in the long term and maybe even short term. If Jordan will be used as a base for moderate rebels to be attacked, then there will be retaliation. The Syrian people hate the Jordanian people. Go on social media see how bad the it has gotten. Jordanians and Syrians are exchanging insults left and right. Today a Jordanian pilot was expelled from the Air Force because he refused to cooperate with Israel. These are clear signs that the regime is losing its gripe on the people. The obvious is that the region prefers moderate Islamists. The regimes don't, that's why they persecute all political opposition and execute 1,000 people in city squares. We saw how that has worked in the past.

So you can pretend to have relevance or be important. I don't know why you think so highly of yourself. But the funny part is how Saudi's get along with your country when you clearly go against all their interests. The Saudi's are up for rude awakening, little do they know what the US-Iranian-Egyptian-Jordanian plan is in the near future. Iran is now an asset for the US. US wants Iran to ramp up oil production to hurt Russia. It also sees Iran as a client security state. Jordan is in line with this policy. Saudi Arabia is the next target after Syria and if the Saudi's don't take my advice and many other political analysts advice, then they will be the next victim. But the game will end after that. Muslims are a patient people, there is no need to rush or react emotionally. The regimes and West are shooting them selves in the foot.

People like you take pride in destroying the well being of the Arab and Muslim peoples. I don't know how you go on about your daily lives knowing this. Your regimes are clearly implant regimes which have no other purpose. I bet you will gloat when Saudi Arabia is going through chaos. To you people anyone who doesn't accept Israel and injustice doesn't deserve to live like a normal human being. There is a very clear persecution going on here which more and more are waking up to on a daily basis.

You dumb and racist people will be put in your place. You will regret looking down upon the Palestinian people. All those who conspire against Muslims are going to pay a big price through the coming decade. Things will shift and Islamists will get to work. The situation will not go back to what it is.

In a few years, when we all will finally realize the mistakes you guys(regimes and supporters, west) and $hit hits the fan. I will be here laughing on the thread created about it. And you better not react mildly. I warn you guys as much as I can, that what you are doing will destabilize the whole region in the long term and that will Islamists will take over. Not moderates but more hardline ones. That's because you focus all your efforts against moderates currently and you won't leave the people any other option. Everybody knows this is how the future will be. But none of you are correcting your mistakes.

You better not come crying to me when this happens.

They did try to free you: Black September in Jordan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

But then you guys brought in this man who saved you from being freed:

You know you not so bright people keep bringing that up but don't realize Jordan is allied with the same party it fought with decades ago. The incident is exaggerated for Israeli propaganda purposes as well. Doesn't change fact though that Jordan is big ally with PA.

I wouldn't be the one laughing if I were you because ISIS is in your backyard in Afghanistan mobilizing to attack you.

 

[Daneshmand]

I wouldn't be the one laughing if I were you because ISIS is in your backyard in Afghanistan mobilizing to attack you.

 

[Falcon29]

You are laughing now but they are trying to establish grass roots, in future they will be deadly threat:

Pentagon warns ISIS offshoot growing in Afghanistan, 'operationally active' | Fox News

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So it's better for you to worry about your own security and country rather than demean the Palestinian plight.

 

[Ahmed Jo]

He can't, he is not exactly what we would call a brave son of palestine His contribution will be to forums only. part time,

He can convince Hamas to invade Amman and raise their flag on the Raghadan.

The Syrian people hate the Jordanian people. Go on social media see how bad the it has gotten. Jordanians and Syrians are exchanging insults left and right.

Yeah, it's unfortunate. But it's still a generalization. If all I have to go on is social media I can't say all Syrians hate us, while in real life, many Syrians are friendly to me.


As for your other points, they seem to be condradiciting themselves. If Jordan is so irrelevant, why are people freaking out over some list? Or when some refugees are sent away? To some, it's irrelevant until reality sets in and 'inconveniences' them.


If I have one wish regarding the Arab world, it's that it become a place that no one wants to escape. So how could I take any pride in its current destruction? In fact, I'm only filled with a sense of shame for Arabs as they keep making their situation worse and worse, with little to no long-term thinking involved. Progress starts locally, which is why I focus on my own country.

They did try to free you: Black September in Jordan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

But then you guys brought in this man who saved you from being freed:

He helped, but whatever good he did in Jordan he really messed up Pakistan unfortunately.

 

[Falcon29]

He can convince Hamas to invade Amman and raise their flag on the Raghadan.

Hamas doesn't have an agenda against Jordan. Hamas is day and night preparing to deal with the Israeli threat. Meanwhile Arab armies are training to contain a popular uprising in their nation. Iran on other hand is training to attack Saudi Arabia. So I think you should look at the reality here.

Yeah, it's unfortunate. But it's still a generalization. If all I have to go on is social media I can't say all Syrians hate us, while in real life, many Syrians are friendly to me.

American Arabs aren't important here, most of them don't get involved in politics.

As for your other points, they seem to be condradiciting themselves. If Jordan is so irrelevant, why are people freaking out over some list? Or when some refugees are sent away? To some, it's irrelevant until reality sets in and 'inconveniences' them.

You don't realize that some nations are using you as sacrificial lamb. Ask yourself why they told you to make this list? They don't want to suffer consequences of the backlash. If I was Jordan, I would distance myself from making any classifications. The very first result is pro-opposition Syrians will be upset with Jordan. That's another way that the West can increase distrust among Arabs. As far as is known, the groups on this list will be targeted following a supposed a cease fire. I highly doubt any truce will be reached. So in other words coalition target base will be expanded. Now this has two important implications. Firstly, Syrian rebels will disintegrate and Syrian cause is on its way to failure as they will have nobody to assist them. That is the immediate implication. The second, which is worse in my opinion is that the international community is beginning to broaden what we know as radical/extremist. This means they are slowly trying to criminalize even moderate Islamists. So imagine a couple years from now, praying will be considered a crime. Then 10 years from now, if you oppose feminisim a coalition of militaries will bomb you. This is clearly a war on faith. And it will make people panic, I'd rather have faith saved than enter a world of no hope.

If I have one wish regarding the Arab world, it's that it become a place that no one wants to escape. So how could I take any pride in its current destruction? In fact, I'm only filled with a sense of shame for Arabs as they keep making their situation worse and worse, with little to no long-term thinking involved. Progress starts locally, which is why I focus on my own country.

We would all like to focus on our own country but we can't. That is how life works. It's a game of survival. We do cruel things to ensure our spot in the game. Now for the Arab world, it will never be normal as long as Iran, Israel, local regimes and the West conspire against them. The Arab world is held hostage, the Arab people are treated as animals. The local regimes and foreigners seek or are making us submissive. There is no opinion or freedom to be had other than what they dictate. If you believe otherwise, your regime will 'interrogate' you, maybe rape your sisters and kill your family. If it isn't the regime, it's Iran and its militias. If it isn't Iran, it's Israel. If it isn't Israel, it is US army which will bomb any Arab that professes to be free or have a right to self determination. Read into history more, any Arab who sought polishing our military capabilities or develop any sense of self sufficiency was assassainated by the CIA or European intelligence or Mossad. They have a gun pointed to our head at all times, letting us know if we move out of place we will perish.

This is the harsh reality we have to live through. And it's only natural that we seek to knock the gun down, toss it into the ocean and not have to live through a controlled fate. Now ask yourself who can free us from this fate. I will let you decide for yourself.

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PS: The reason we have militias all over the place is very simple. When our regimes threaten anyone who has different perspective on matters with torture and violence, that scares them. And when you form credible political opposition and 'mysteriously' are found dead lying in your room, this sends a message to the people. The message is that we reject you having any rights, if you believe otherwise you will be killed. So most people say, hell with it. If I'm already gonna murdered one way or another, might as well join militia and at least try making contribution. And Islam helps people overcome their fears, this is why most militias are hardline about Islam.

 

[Falcon29]

The list is not true, Jordan announced today it is still consulting with allies/international community regarding this matter.

Jordan is ruled by the Hamishites. That's the same clan of Muhammad and Ali. Surprised Jordan isn't a Shia country. What does the king of Jordan think of Abu Bakr who snatched the title of caliph from right under Ali?

@waz

 

[Ahmed Jo]

Ahrar wants to establish an Islamic state, not an Islamic republic. That makes them extremists.




Jordan is ruled by the Hamishites. That's the same clan of Muhammad and Ali. Surprised Jordan isn't a Shia country. What does the king of Jordan think of Abu Bakr who snatched the title of caliph from right under Ali?

You know, Abu bakr is venerated among Sunnis. The king probably doesn't care about such things though.

The list is not true, Jordan announced today it is still consulting with allies/international community regarding this matter.



@waz

They took their time announcing it. This report was published by Syrian opposition sources to begin with. They made up a lie so they have an excuse to insult us. Within minutes all these rebel Twitter accounts were insulting Jordan left and right. Makes you wonder what their intentions are..