You have no knowledge or ignorant! RAF is second biggest operator. Also can you inform my one more qus what is pak contribution in JF ?
Do you mean jack of all trades and master in none ? In which single role are you sure will it will perform better then IAF present fighters ?
No no. Tell us why IAF is not using its own made fighter jet? Isn't it humiliating?!
what lethal weapon? Plasma gun?? :p doesn't it already have too much weapons choice but too little efficient means of effective weapon deloyment? shoouldnt we focus on THAT (i mean sensors,radars &targeting pods)
If you don't have any answer or you are ignorant then why are you replying like a stupid ? There is more then 180 air forces not using its own made fighter jet including yours, only US, Russia, France, germany have there own not even china who has to import heart (engine) and other components from russia and bytheway Air force job is to fly and destroy enemy nothing else. JF 17 is zero for IAF, forget attack it cant save itself from Rafael, su 30, S 400. but what matters is the know how pak is able to get or have to design a good plane. May be I am wrong but assembling and marketing a plane is not called yous then in the same sense SU 30 and Rafael would also be Indian as 50 % by value of contact components (including 50% engine components) are made in India and sourced to make these birds.
I liked to post some links but as I am new on this platform not allowed, If you want i can mail you then make your judgment. Dont belive completely what you lisen or dicuss from other **** guys, if this is the case I would not have come here to dicuss.
I am not an expert in these matters so I just put my inquiry. I use short foams which I feel other members can understand according to which context i am using here is nothing ignorant. I found bit you people instead of discussing to share info are in fighting mentality and give stupid or nonsense replies which I have nothing to do, instead dragging me in these stupid conversation which I seriously dont want. I like to tell you Russia didnt ordered them in 1990's because it was going through serious economic problems and ordering it even in 2010 itself speak its worth and using it as its front line bird in sirya opp. recently intercepted American F 16 to give its id in sirya.
-- Your very funny -- so lets take a step back and see what you just claimed
"Air forces except US, France, Germany, Russia don't make there own fighters .... Not even China which runs two stealth fighter programs side by side doesn't have the capability to make its own jets because it has to import the engine from Russia "
"The only contribution of Pakistan in JFT is funds/assembling & marketing"
I've given you two links to research what Pakistan contributed (includes weapon systems for integration, software, Pakistan had input in design as well coming off from its experience with the F-16, also includes subsystems that are in production at PAC) ...Do look up the percentage of JFT which Pakistan "manufactures" at PAC ... if your too lazy to read the links provided then thats not my problem or anybody elses...
Secondly do look up the list of fighter jet programs China is running -- Right now its developing 4, 4.5 gens and 5 gen fighters (J-11D/J-15/J-31/J-20/FC-1)-- As far as the engine goes, there are Chinese engine programs --- eg. WS series and as time passes the technology will mature and they will be able to master it ...
But what I find really interesting is what if the same standard of "indigenous content" were to be applied on IAF-- what is the LCA then, has foreign weapons, foreign engine, foreign subsystems etc etc ... So by your very own definition -- your precious LCA would not be considered indigenous ...
"JF-17 is zero for IAF, it can't save itself from S-400, Rafale or SU-30"
Whats funny is that out of the 3 weapon systems you mention -- two are no where to be found in the IAF/IA because they are still in the friggin negotiation stage ... as far as su-30 goes --- keep the dream alive -- you don't wanna know what happened to SU-27's at the hands of the JFT ... or the F-16 A 15's -- whether you want to accept it or not -- JFT is a reality and it just happens to be a threat as well ...
Doesn't touch one point put forth -- puts a sob story and goes off about how he's not an "expert" -- then lemme give you a suggestion -- don't put forth sweeping statements if you can't even defend them ... oh and by the way ... your own precious unbeatable MKI's were locked at the hands of PAF falcons and PG's in 2008 --
is that weapon system raad
1. Name calling is against the forum rules. You have been reported.
2. Dafuq does that even mean? We're using our home made jet unlike India. Tells a lot about Tejas quality.
3. Congratulations you already beaten the 'zero' JF17 & won the war with your superior nonexistent Rafale & S400. We surrender.
