JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 7]

[AsifIjaz]

New, young-aspiring, talented uni-grad engineers managers entrepreneurs desperately required.

Thats not gonna happen till the current staff is there.. Hirings with them being there will be skewed and targeted to bring in their own people or kin.
Unless u bring in dozens and dozens of competent people that have a different mindset and who are trust worthy and place them at key positions.... And afterwards start gradual and targetes culling over months to years... Till that happens anything worthwhile that we get done is itself a miracle

 

[Sine Nomine]

New, young-aspiring, talented uni-grad engineers managers entrepreneurs desperately required.

Old Guards won't let that happen.

 

[messiach]

Old Guards won't let that happen.

Young people like many on this forum will have to do this job. I am now 57 & there are others who are no more young. I have returned to UK but should be back home in due course. There is no place like home. There is none.

 

[Awan68]

Young people like many on this forum will have to do this job. I am now 57 & there are others who are no more young. I have returned to UK but should be back home in due course. There is no place like home. There is none.

I can relate.

 

[CriticalThought]

Young people like many on this forum will have to do this job. I am now 57 & there are others who are no more young. I have returned to UK but should be back home in due course. There is no place like home. There is none.

Madam, I don't hold much hope for young people. I apologize profusely for the sort of language used here, but if you could overlook that and have a read:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/elec...es-pakistan-stand.596749/page-4#post-11123417

This nation is increasingly become subservient to Western interests. If measures are not taken by top leaders to instill nationhood, self-respect, and discipline, then the 'young people' will hand over the country to their foreign masters. Let's not forget, the old people of today were also young once.

 

[Sine Nomine]

Young people like many on this forum will have to do this job. I am now 57 & there are others who are no more young. I have returned to UK but should be back home in due course. There is no place like home. There is none.

Hope So,have a safe journey back home.

 

[araz]

Young people like many on this forum will have to do this job. I am now 57 & there are others who are no more young. I have returned to UK but should be back home in due course. There is no place like home. There is none.

Madam you are lucky. As someone slightly older than you and residing and working in UK for the last 30 yrs I often think it is time to move back and contribute to my country's progress and help my people rather than helping these ungrateful people and stop being treated as a second class citizen. You have the circumstances to be able to do that but for various reasons I dont. It is a pity but so it is and so it will be.

 

[Sine Nomine]

Madam you are lucky. As someone slightly older than you and residing and working in UK for the last 30 yrs I often think it is time to move back and contribute to my country's progress and help my people rather than helping these ungrateful people and stop being treated as a second class citizen. You have the circumstances to be able to do that but for various reasons I dont. It is a pity but so it is and so it will be.

Sir you are an honest person,you would be treated as 3rd class citizen.

 

[araz]

Sir you are an honest person,you would be treated as 3rd class citizen.

Possibly true marey bhai but the point I make is that I dont need to go out and earn money to survive anymore. I can do charity work or anything I want and contribute to my country rather than sitting here. Even here I am extremely busy looking after a muslim school in addition to full time work and seeing the carelessness of the ummah with which it treats its children. If I had the resources I would buy the school and relaunch it but dont have the money for it. These things frustrate me.
Anyways lets move on.
A

 

[HRK]

I can do charity work or anything I want and contribute to my country rather than sitting here. Even here I am extremely busy looking after a muslim school in addition to full time work and seeing the carelessness of the ummah with which it treats its children.

Araz Shaib you could still serve the country while staying in UK its not that I am opposing the idea of your return to Pakistan, I am just sharing my understanding that overseas Pakistani are already contributing in many ways but lacking in one sector that is the LOCAL POLITICS, though in UK Pakistani community has done great as compare to Pakistanis in other western countries, so UK could be a launch platform and could become an example of unofficial community base lobbying for Pakistan.

If I had the resources I would buy the school and relaunch it but dont have the money for it. These things frustrate me.

this could be a starting point not necessarily that you have to invest your own money or buy a school just try to engage community invest your extra time (which you are already doing), just gather people around you for a cause.

 

[AsifIjaz]

Young people like many on this forum will have to do this job. I am now 57 & there are others who are no more young. I have returned to UK but should be back home in due course. There is no place like home. There is none.

I can perfectly relate.. . I left recently after banging my head against countless hurdles, sekf proclaimed gods and unending roadblocks.
Not a day passes when i dont miss the warmth of my home or repent the state we are in.
If only i had the means or power to do something for my country and its people... who have been kind to me and given me everything that I have today.
Like many, I too do not want to die like an old bloke with nothing but regrets and unfulfilled dreams while seated in a comfortable place somewhere in the world.
Irony is like many i too am willing to go back in a heartbeat provided i am given a free hand with accountability and checks and balance but on one condition only. .. i.e. I wont do wrong (bribe, forgery, bluff) or let anyone do it too. But i guess that nowadays...thats too much to ask in Pakistan. PTI is probably our last hope.
Anyways i do not want to derail this further... Madam, have a safe trip back home and may God give you the strength to carry on and contibute to the rosy days ahead.
Ameen

 

[messiach]

@araz

Lakotas Dream:

When the blood in you, returns to the seas
And the Bones within return to the sands
Then, You will realise the World was for you
You were not for the World


Live a life that death cannot End.

 

[denel]

@araz

Lakotas Dream:

When the blood in you, returns to the seas
And the Bones within return to the sands
Then, You will realise the World was for you
You were not for the World


Live a life that death cannot End.

interesting... very similar to Iqbal.

 

[MastanKhan]

Young people like many on this forum will have to do this job. I am now 57 & there are others who are no more young. I have returned to UK but should be back home in due course. There is no place like home. There is none.

Hi,

Oh my goodness---. You been hit hard---.

 

[Silicon0000]

Everyone (living inside country and living outside country) wish to do good for country but no one knows how? Maybe together we can ..........