JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 7]

[Eminent Mainstream Media]

As for numbers of aircraft, they are sufficient for any engagement beyond a full scale war.

Now
PAKISTAN Will lose a full scale war

PAKISTAN will lose a full scale war

Hopefully stating it twice should make it clear.
But in any scenario where we are losing, the nuclear weapons will come out.

About your theory- How justifiable would be Pakistan launching nuclear attack on Indian cities- If the war is only limited to air campaign-

Sir Oscar, I do not agree with you that we cannot beat India ... We cannot as of now but in future we should be able to ...

Look at the size of Israel and its resources and look at the Arab world and resources at their disposal ... even USA could not match the type of wealth Arab world has ... They just had to channelize the resources in right direction but failed to do so ... on the contrary, Israel played its cards well and now is one of the most powerful country ...

I agree that Zia and Niazi are the culprit but we have to rise again ... have to rise again to the level of 1965 ...

We should be able to retaliate without nukes as using nukes means destruction of everything ... and we dont want that ... we want an honorable Pakistan and that can never be achieved with Nukes provided that BJP remains in power as they will die but will not tolerate Pakistan to prosper ...

Israel's strength comes from Its Jewish diaspora spread all over the world and the lobbying It can do- Plus they are usually quality contributors with rich achievements in Science, sports and other spheres-

Pakistan should focus on institution building- handing everything to army doesn't work- coz they end up having a monopoly- But for that She would have to maintain friendly relations with her neighbors and forget the so called Islamic duties for a while-

I can tell you that- Pakistan would be gaining more with the soft power on India than this warmongering-

 

[The Accountant]

About your theory- How justifiable would be Pakistan launching nuclear attack on Indian cities- If the war is only limited to air campaign-



Israel's strength comes from Its Jewish diaspora spread all over the world and the lobbying It can do- Plus they are usually quality contributors with rich achievements in Science, sports and other spheres-

Pakistan should focus on institution building- handing everything to army doesn't work- coz they end up having a monopoly- But for that She would have to maintain friendly relations with her neighbors and forget the so called Islamic duties for a while-

I can tell you that- Pakistan would be gaining more with the soft power on India than this warmongering-

With all due respect your comments are entirely incorrect ...

Its India who is trying to inflict war on us not vice versa ... So just dont tell us what to do ...

 

[Eminent Mainstream Media]

With all due respect your comments are entirely incorrect ...

Its India who is trying to inflict war on us not vice versa ... So just dont tell us what to do ...

Ok- please continue-

 

[SQ8]

One more question , Although we wont go for Topowl neither Striker 2 , can PL-5 or PL-9C and chinese air to ground missiles get integrated with any of the mentioned HMD ?

Both sides are hesitant for exchange of source codes- PAC has no issues.

Sir Oscar, I do not agree with you that we cannot beat India ... We cannot as of now but in future we should be able to ...

Look at the size of Israel and its resources and look at the Arab world and resources at their disposal ... even USA could not match the type of wealth Arab world has ... They just had to channelize the resources in right direction but failed to do so ... on the contrary, Israel played its cards well and now is one of the most powerful country ...

I agree that Zia and Niazi are the culprit but we have to rise again ... have to rise again to the level of 1965 ...

We should be able to retaliate without nukes as using nukes means destruction of everything ... and we dont want that ... we want an honorable Pakistan and that can never be achieved with Nukes provided that BJP remains in power as they will die but will not tolerate Pakistan to prosper ...

Then elect the right people, push for those around you to elect the right people- stop looking for a messiah.
Israel has had massive US help, but they also have clarity of purpose and a dedication to their people and jewish faith for most of their population. Pakistanis have barely 51% of the population with that honesty of purpose.

About your theory- How justifiable would be Pakistan launching nuclear attack on Indian cities- If the war is only limited to air campaign-



Israel's strength comes from Its Jewish diaspora spread all over the world and the lobbying It can do- Plus they are usually quality contributors with rich achievements in Science, sports and other spheres-

Pakistan should focus on institution building- handing everything to army doesn't work- coz they end up having a monopoly- But for that She would have to maintain friendly relations with her neighbors and forget the so called Islamic duties for a while-

I can tell you that- Pakistan would be gaining more with the soft power on India than this warmongering-

There is no likelihood of being an all out limited air campaign. Any air skirmish or strike by India has very little chance of succeeding fully and even less of not having a retaliatory strike within 1 hour of them turning back.

 

[Mrc]

bout your theory- How justifiable would be Pakistan launching nuclear attack on Indian cities- If the war is only limited to air campaign-

U dont have to justify any thing to any one... if one side is alive after exchange... that side will be considered as justified...

And one good thing about accurate missiles and tactical nukes is ... u dont have to go after cities.....atleast initially

 

[mdcp]

Cant we upgrade our f7p's to bvr capable so it can give little boost.

Meanwhile, we need to increase production of JF17.

We must join next gen fighter program with China or turkey now so we can have result on time

Also we need to work on anti air defense and bvr missiles etc and also need satellites

 

[Eminent Mainstream Media]

U dont have to justify any thing to any one... if one side is alive after exchange... that side will be considered as justified...

And one good thing about accurate missiles and tactical nukes is ... u dont have to go after cities.....atleast initially

There is a thing call Justice and righteousness factor when committing an act of violence- Without that you cannot mobilize a whole country-

There is no likelihood of being an all out limited air campaign. Any air skirmish or strike by India has very little chance of succeeding fully and even less of not having a retaliatory strike within 1 hour of them turning back.

I was specifically questioning about an all out air campaign- Its okay I won't bother again-

 

[Mrc]

There is a thing call Justice and righteousness factor when committing an act of violence- Without that you cannot mobilize a whole country-

Read the history

 

[The Accountant]

Both sides are hesitant for exchange of source codes- PAC has no issues.

Then elect the right people, push for those around you to elect the right people- stop looking for a messiah.
Israel has had massive US help, but they also have clarity of purpose and a dedication to their people and jewish faith for most of their population. Pakistanis have barely 51% of the population with that honesty of purpose.


There is no likelihood of being an all out limited air campaign. Any air skirmish or strike by India has very little chance of succeeding fully and even less of not having a retaliatory strike within 1 hour of them turning back.

Sir i agree ... we have to work hard ... we have to be honest ... we have to turn the tables ... nothing is going to get better unless we start correcting ourselves ...

 

[Readerdefence]

About your theory- How justifiable would be Pakistan launching nuclear attack on Indian cities- If the war is only limited to air campaign-



Israel's strength comes from Its Jewish diaspora spread all over the world and the lobbying It can do- Plus they are usually quality contributors with rich achievements in Science, sports and other spheres-

Pakistan should focus on institution building- handing everything to army doesn't work- coz they end up having a monopoly- But for that She would have to maintain friendly relations with her neighbors and forget the so called Islamic duties for a while-

I can tell you that- Pakistan would be gaining more with the soft power on India than this warmongering-

And what will that friendly relations like the one Bangladesh or Bhutan or Nepal style
Or to beg India to open the doors of heaven for Pakistan what Islamic duties you mind
Shedding some light on it basically you guys want Pakistan to surrender in front of your
Hagemonic kind of response why can't you say this to china on the matter of Tibet if you
Think that's right and China is wrong so please set aside this friendly relations
Yes offcourse we want friendly relations but without attaching any strings and without
The hagemonic kind of fobia or at least try to stop spreading hate speeches against
Pakistan specially during elections and after elections I don't know where all those speeches
Go Whithout getting any thing out of it

Whatever air assets Pakistan have if they are workable on those specific war days we
Can defend Pakistan air space with some more and up to date sam missiles we can
Even deny Indian airforce to do anything substantial though we can't be an aggressor
But we can defend at least and if we succeed in that it should be written in the history
Against such a big and powerful aggressor

 

[WarFariX]

Both sides are hesitant for exchange of source codes- PAC has no issues.

Then elect the right people, push for those around you to elect the right people- stop looking for a messiah.
Israel has had massive US help, but they also have clarity of purpose and a dedication to their people and jewish faith for most of their population. Pakistanis have barely 51% of the population with that honesty of purpose.


There is no likelihood of being an all out limited air campaign. Any air skirmish or strike by India has very little chance of succeeding fully and even less of not having a retaliatory strike within 1 hour of them turning back.

U dont have to justify any thing to any one... if one side is alive after exchange... that side will be considered as justified...

And one good thing about accurate missiles and tactical nukes is ... u dont have to go after cities.....atleast initially

There is a thing call Justice and righteousness factor when committing an act of violence- Without that you cannot mobilize a whole country-



I was specifically questioning about an all out air campaign- Its okay I won't bother again-

And what will that friendly relations like the one Bangladesh or Bhutan or Nepal style
Or to beg India to open the doors of heaven for Pakistan what Islamic duties you mind
Shedding some light on it basically you guys want Pakistan to surrender in front of your
Hagemonic kind of response why can't you say this to china on the matter of Tibet if you
Think that's right and China is wrong so please set aside this friendly relations
Yes offcourse we want friendly relations but without attaching any strings and without
The hagemonic kind of fobia or at least try to stop spreading hate speeches against
Pakistan specially during elections and after elections I don't know where all those speeches
Go Whithout getting any thing out of it

Whatever air assets Pakistan have if they are workable on those specific war days we
Can defend Pakistan air space with some more and up to date sam missiles we can
Even deny Indian airforce to do anything substantial though we can't be an aggressor
But we can defend at least and if we succeed in that it should be written in the history
Against such a big and powerful aggressor

WITH ALL DUE RESPECT , PLEASE STICK TO THE THREAD ESPECIALLY YOU @Eminent Mainstream Media

 

[Dazzler]

Two MI-35Ms delivered to Nigeria, next: jf-17s

 

[Official_MAW]

Since its induction in 2011, the JF-17 thunder has accumulated 19,000 hours of operational flight. The JF-17 has seen active military service as it is used by the Pakistan Air Force to bomb militant positions in the war in North West Pakistan using both unguided munitions and guided missiles for precision strike capability. The Nigerian Air Force has confirmed it is expecting delivery of JF-17 for use in military operations against militants in Northern Nigeria. As of December 2016, Pakistan Aeronautical Complex has manufactured 70 jets in the country for use by the Pakistan Air Force of block 1 types and 33 jets of block 2 types.

The Pakistan Air Force has made extensive plans for future upgrades, purchased target pods from Turkey to configure JF-17 for ground attack, the JF-17's BVR (beyond-visual-range) for upgrade configuration of maritime strike role through SD-10 and C-802 missiles.

 

[Chak Bamu]

We should really be discussing JF-17 and not theories of race.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

The construction capabilities need to be beefed up need 4 factories for manufacturing Thunder
I think if our Production numbers were 30-40 planes per year we would likely secure more customers as well