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I have no idea but I have a feeling that aircraft 229 is testbed for subsystems of Block-3. Just a guess though.
JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 6]
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I have no idea but I have a feeling that aircraft 229 is testbed for subsystems of Block-3. Just a guess though.
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That is an Infrared identification system (IRIS), if i'm not wrong.
Comes in to play when AC's are flying in close formation especially at night, and are maintaining radio silence which means they need other systems to monitor each other’s position during such periods of radio silence. With the help of it pilots can pinpoint the position of other aircraft, using night vision googles,as the AC will still be invisible to the naked eye.
The frequency of this IRIS can be varied. Set to flash at unique frequency defined before each mission.
The Jordianian F-16 we have received, has got it.
An article shows that this system allows an individual fighter aircraft to be identified up to almost four kilometres away.
For further reading:
Nighttime identification F-16 | NLR Annual Report 2010
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Oh wow I didn't know there was such a thing. ThanksThat is an Infrared identification system (IRIS), if i'm not wrong.
Comes in to play when AC's are flying in close formation especially at night, and are maintaining radio silence which means they need other systems to monitor each other’s position during such periods of radio silence. With the help of it pilots can pinpoint the position of other aircraft, using night vision googles,as the AC will still be invisible to the naked eye.
The frequency of this IRIS can be varied. Set to flash at unique frequency defined before each mission.
The Jordianian F-16 we have received, has got it.
An article shows that this system allows an individual fighter aircraft to be identified up to almost four kilometres away.
For further reading:
Nighttime identification F-16 | NLR Annual Report 2010
Is it possible it may be air refueling flood white light labeled in the diagram you posted? I say this because it is only present on the side of the probe and seems to be facing towards the front.
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FC-1/JF-17 Fierce Dragon/Thunder
First revealed in 1995 as the successor of the cancelled Sino-US Super-7 project, FC-1(Fighter China-1, max TO weight 12,700kg, max speed M 1.8, service ceiling 16,920m, max weapon load 3,900kg, ferry range 3,480km, combat radius 1,352km, max g load +8.5) is being developed by CAC/611 Institute (with some technical assistance from Russian Mikoyan OKB) as a "medium tech", light weight fighter/ground attack aircraft carrying a relatively cheap price tag (~$20m). As a fighter designed for export, its main customer is expected to be Pakistan who also shares 50% of the total cost (around $150m). It may also compete with second-hand F-16s to seize the market created by the retirement of Mig-21s, Mirage III and F-5s. Currently powered by a RussianRD-93 turbofan (upgraded RD-33, rated 8,795kg with A/B), it would also be powered by a locally produced WS-13 Taishan once the engine is ready. The A-6 style "V" shaped air-intakes are believed to provide smooth air flow to the engine at high AoA. The fire control radar is thought to be a Chinese KLJ-7V2 X-band multi-functional PD radar (track 10 and engage 2 simultaneously, look-up range 110km for RCS=3m2). A Chinese AESA radar might be installed in later batches. Other electronics include an NVG compatible glass cockpit (EFIS) with three 8"x6" color MFDs, HOTAS, AIFF, 1553B databus and INS/GPS. Weapon load includes both short (PL-5EII/PL-9C/AIM-9M) and medium-range AAMs (SD-10A). LGBs (LT-2/LT-3/GBU-12), GPS/INS guided bombs (LS-6), ASMs (C705KD), anti-radiation missiles (Brazilian MAR-1 or Chinese LD-10/CM102) and IRST/laser designation pod (WMD-7) can also be carried for ground attack missions. Up to 2 C-802AK AShMs can be carried for anti-ship missions. For high value fixed targets, up to 2 CM-400AKG standoff supersonic ASMs can be carried. For self-protection purpose a KG300G or KG600 ECM pod can be carried. The development schedule of FC-1 was repeatedly delayed caused by various problems, such as lack of funding, the reluctance of western countries to supply advanced avionics, as well as the revised specifications set by PAF to counter the threat from India's LCAs. These specifications included a true BVR attack capability with active radar guided medium-range AAMs (SD-10A). However,FC-1's prospect in the domestic market had diminished, as PLAAF had committed to the more advanced J-10 as its new generation fighter along with J-11 and was reluctant to acquire any FC-1s due to its less advanced design and a Russian engine. After lengthy negotiations, Pakistani government finally signed the contract with CATIC and CAC/611 in 1999 and gave the "go ahead" order to the much delayed project. The development was further accelerated after PAF recommitted the project and confirmed FC-1's technical specifications in detail in February 2001. A full-scale mock-up was quickly constructed. A total of 6 prototypes (01-06) were built at CAC. The 01 prototype rolled down the assembly line on May 31, 2003 with two small wing fences. Its maiden flight took place on August 25, 2003. The 03 prototype first flew on April 9, 2004 without the two small wing fences. The 04 prototype was expected to fly by the end of 2005 with full suite of avionics but this was delayed until April 2006 due to several structural modifications. They include new diverterless supersonic inlets (DSI/Bump) similar to those of American F-35 to reduce weight and achieve better performance. A large rectangular-shaped fairing is installed on top of the vertical tailfin which may house ECM equipment. Its flight control includes a Type 634 quadruplex digital FBW in pitch axis and a duplex analog FBW in roll axis. A UV band MAWS has been installed at the root of the vertical tailfin to provide rear hemisphere coverage. Two enlarged F/A-18 style LERX are thought to offer higher AOA as well. The first flight of 04 prototype took place on April 28, 2006, and 06 prototype on September 10, 2006. The first two pre-production JF-17s (PAF designation Joint Fighter-17 Block I, 00 batch/07-101 & 102) were delivered to Pakistan on March 2, 2007, with the nose-tip pitot tube removed. The 01 batch of 6 JF-17s (08-103 -- 08-108) were delivered between March and April 2008. The contract for PAF to acquire another 42 JF-17s assembled by PAC was singed on March 7, 2009. The first two (09-109 & 110) were built by CAC. The first JF-17 (09-111) in the batch of 4 assembled by PAC rolled out on November 23, 2009. The production of the 50 Block I concluded by the end of 2013 with another 50 Block II to follow in 2014. Besides Pakistan, several Asian, African and South America countries also expressed interest inFC-1/JF-17, including Egypt, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Azerbaijan, Myanmar and Argentina. FC-1 passed design appraisal in December 2009. The first taxiing test of FC-1powered by an indigenous WS-13 took place on March 18, 2010. Currently the flight test of the engine is still underway. A further upgraded variant (JF-17 Block II/JF-17A?) featuring a detachable IFR probe on the starboard side of the cockpit, similar to that of J-10, improved avionics (including secure datalink with ZDK-03) and enhanced precision-guided weapon capability has been under development as well. An EOdevice was installed on top of the right engine intake behind the IFR probe but its purpose is still unknown. The aircraft canbe supported by the PAF Il-78MP tanker.The Block II variant is expected to be followed by the Block III, which might feature a more powerful engine (WS-13B?), a new AESA radar, IRST, HMD, full authority digital FBW and additional types of weapons. A tandem-seat trainer version (JF-17B) was first unveiled at the 2013 Paris Airshow by CATIC, which has the electronic compartment removed from top of the vertical tailfin. JF-17B is expected to fly within 2016. The assembling of the first three JF-17 Block IIs (S/N 15-20x) started at PAC in mid-2014. First flight of 15-201 took place on February 9, 2015. It is expected that all the Block I JF-17s will be upgraded to the Block II standard in the future. Recent news (June 2015) claimed that FC-1 just secured its first export contract from an Asian customer which is likely to be Myanmar. The $560m contract could involve an initial batch of 16 aircraft and the delivery couldstart in mid-2016.
- Last Updated 1/22/16
FC-1/JF-17 Fierce Dragon/Thunder
First revealed in 1995 as the successor of the cancelled Sino-US Super-7 project, FC-1(Fighter China-1, max TO weight 12,700kg, max speed M 1.8, service ceiling 16,920m, max weapon load 3,900kg, ferry range 3,480km, combat radius 1,352km, max g load +8.5) is being developed by CAC/611 Institute (with some technical assistance from Russian Mikoyan OKB) as a "medium tech", light weight fighter/ground attack aircraft carrying a relatively cheap price tag (~$20m). As a fighter designed for export, its main customer is expected to be Pakistan who also shares 50% of the total cost (around $150m). It may also compete with second-hand F-16s to seize the market created by the retirement of Mig-21s, Mirage III and F-5s. Currently powered by a RussianRD-93 turbofan (upgraded RD-33, rated 8,795kg with A/B), it would also be powered by a locally produced WS-13 Taishan once the engine is ready. The A-6 style "V" shaped air-intakes are believed to provide smooth air flow to the engine at high AoA. The fire control radar is thought to be a Chinese KLJ-7V2 X-band multi-functional PD radar (track 10 and engage 2 simultaneously, look-up range 110km for RCS=3m2). A Chinese AESA radar might be installed in later batches. Other electronics include an NVG compatible glass cockpit (EFIS) with three 8"x6" color MFDs, HOTAS, AIFF, 1553B databus and INS/GPS. Weapon load includes both short (PL-5EII/PL-9C/AIM-9M) and medium-range AAMs (SD-10A). LGBs (LT-2/LT-3/GBU-12), GPS/INS guided bombs (LS-6), ASMs (C705KD), anti-radiation missiles (Brazilian MAR-1 or Chinese LD-10/CM102) and IRST/laser designation pod (WMD-7) can also be carried for ground attack missions. Up to 2 C-802AK AShMs can be carried for anti-ship missions. For high value fixed targets, up to 2 CM-400AKG standoff supersonic ASMs can be carried. For self-protection purpose a KG300G or KG600 ECM pod can be carried. The development schedule of FC-1 was repeatedly delayed caused by various problems, such as lack of funding, the reluctance of western countries to supply advanced avionics, as well as the revised specifications set by PAF to counter the threat from India's LCAs. These specifications included a true BVR attack capability with active radar guided medium-range AAMs (SD-10A). However,FC-1's prospect in the domestic market had diminished, as PLAAF had committed to the more advanced J-10 as its new generation fighter along with J-11 and was reluctant to acquire any FC-1s due to its less advanced design and a Russian engine. After lengthy negotiations, Pakistani government finally signed the contract with CATIC and CAC/611 in 1999 and gave the "go ahead" order to the much delayed project. The development was further accelerated after PAF recommitted the project and confirmed FC-1's technical specifications in detail in February 2001. A full-scale mock-up was quickly constructed. A total of 6 prototypes (01-06) were built at CAC. The 01 prototype rolled down the assembly line on May 31, 2003 with two small wing fences. Its maiden flight took place on August 25, 2003. The 03 prototype first flew on April 9, 2004 without the two small wing fences. The 04 prototype was expected to fly by the end of 2005 with full suite of avionics but this was delayed until April 2006 due to several structural modifications. They include new diverterless supersonic inlets (DSI/Bump) similar to those of American F-35 to reduce weight and achieve better performance. A large rectangular-shaped fairing is installed on top of the vertical tailfin which may house ECM equipment. Its flight control includes a Type 634 quadruplex digital FBW in pitch axis and a duplex analog FBW in roll axis. A UV band MAWS has been installed at the root of the vertical tailfin to provide rear hemisphere coverage. Two enlarged F/A-18 style LERX are thought to offer higher AOA as well. The first flight of 04 prototype took place on April 28, 2006, and 06 prototype on September 10, 2006. The first two pre-production JF-17s (PAF designation Joint Fighter-17 Block I, 00 batch/07-101 & 102) were delivered to Pakistan on March 2, 2007, with the nose-tip pitot tube removed. The 01 batch of 6 JF-17s (08-103 -- 08-108) were delivered between March and April 2008. The contract for PAF to acquire another 42 JF-17s assembled by PAC was singed on March 7, 2009. The first two (09-109 & 110) were built by CAC. The first JF-17 (09-111) in the batch of 4 assembled by PAC rolled out on November 23, 2009. The production of the 50 Block I concluded by the end of 2013 with another 50 Block II to follow in 2014. Besides Pakistan, several Asian, African and South America countries also expressed interest inFC-1/JF-17, including Egypt, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Azerbaijan, Myanmar and Argentina. FC-1 passed design appraisal in December 2009. The first taxiing test of FC-1powered by an indigenous WS-13 took place on March 18, 2010. Currently the flight test of the engine is still underway. A further upgraded variant (JF-17 Block II/JF-17A?) featuring a detachable IFR probe on the starboard side of the cockpit, similar to that of J-10, improved avionics (including secure datalink with ZDK-03) and enhanced precision-guided weapon capability has been under development as well. An EOdevice was installed on top of the right engine intake behind the IFR probe but its purpose is still unknown. The aircraft canbe supported by the PAF Il-78MP tanker.The Block II variant is expected to be followed by the Block III, which might feature a more powerful engine (WS-13B?), a new AESA radar, IRST, HMD, full authority digital FBW and additional types of weapons. A tandem-seat trainer version (JF-17B) was first unveiled at the 2013 Paris Airshow by CATIC, which has the electronic compartment removed from top of the vertical tailfin. JF-17B is expected to fly within 2016. The assembling of the first three JF-17 Block IIs (S/N 15-20x) started at PAC in mid-2014. First flight of 15-201 took place on February 9, 2015. It is expected that all the Block I JF-17s will be upgraded to the Block II standard in the future. Recent news (June 2015) claimed that FC-1 just secured its first export contract from an Asian customer which is likely to be Myanmar. The $560m contract could involve an initial batch of 16 aircraft and the delivery couldstart in mid-2016.
- Last Updated 1/22/16
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The fuel prob looks much better then what we have seen originally with PAF. I hope the PAF one was just a prototype and they go for the chinese one. and i also notice some sort of sensor (MAW?)...
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Seems to be very similar to one installed on the J-10B, CAC might have used the exact same model for both aircraft. And no, it does not seem to be MAWs,
Another new pic of the new batch of JF-17, the new apparatus does not appear on the left side of the aircraft.
J-10B also had something similar installed only on one side of the plane
It's probably a light meant for identification purpose among other planes within the formation. Hence why it's positioned upwards on the JF-17 to avoid detection by enemy ground forces.
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* same probe but fitted more neatly, still south African
* MAWS window or formation lights?
* some undisclosed antennae behind the cockpit as well as both sides of fuselage just behind the nosecone
That's the final blk 2 configuration
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Conformal fuel tank？
and powered by WS-13E？
Nope, and the engine is evidently rd-93
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Can you see the sensor on the intake just above the LEREX? Something for spherical/near spherical situational awareness?
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It's a light.
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