JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 6]

[Imran Khan]

bhai we have seen the video why so much spam ?

 

[Real LAVi]

"Thunder from beyond" - JF-17 Promotional Video - Part - 12

bhai we have seen the video why so much spam ?

Because the value of still image ..... it shows off the image of Pakistan

 

[Real LAVi]

"Thunder from beyond" - JF-17 Promotional Video - Part - 13

 

[Oruc]

Army chief is in South Africa right now.

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

DAS? for JF-17 are you remotely serious my friend? you don't mean distributed aperture system please??
Optimism is a good thing but one must not fool oneself. Living in delusion don't help. You must study the role of JF-17 in PAF, the ideology behind the whole project and you wont be asking such questions.

And the thing you said, JUST STRENGTHENING OF WING, that is not that PAC will add a bag of cement to increase strength. We will be going into an an new designing phase, then prototype, evaluation, FOCs and what not. Why all this fuss that is not even NECESSARY for a fighter plane. How many planes you see with CFTs? it is not something that is a must, not something for which PAC will go for HUGE modifications.

I am sorry but cant help asking, are you Nishan?

I asked a question regarding DAS role in JF-17.

Did not suggest it should have it...There is a big difference

My suggestion regarding Strengthening the wing was based in order to increase weight loading and root section. In Blk 2 there were some composites that have been reprocessed so that they are much more stronger then the Blk 1.

What do you think Cement is the strongest material that can bond.

What you are saying in bold i might be asking the same question. Are you Nishan?

CFT is not a must but it has its advantages. Btw there is a pic of F-6 with belly tank that resembles a lot like CFT

Isn't this a JFT thread

Why did you think it is not??

 

[Foxtrot-Bravo]

Ok you are now integral part of this community .
Long live and prosper in this forum. By the way kia share ker Rahay thay ?? Ager waqee public hai tau zeroor share kero warna be careful abbu mushkil main per jayen gay as per Mastan Bhai warning .
Enjoy your stay Brah .

Mughal Bhai I just wanted to share a photoshopped pic of JF-17 Thunder Block-III which would be a stealth prototype. This pic has been officially publicized.

Thanks for your greetings. I apologize for my harsh words for anyone. Specially @MastanKhan Bhai.

Apology accepted

Boss

 

[Djinn]

Mughal Bhai I just wanted to share a photoshopped pic of JF-17 Thunder Block-III which would be a stealth prototype. This pic has been officially publicized.

Share the pic dude, most probably it wouldn't be something that we haven't seen already, but do share and you don't need anyone's permission for that.

 

[Bilal.]

Mughal Bhai I just wanted to share a photoshopped pic of JF-17 Thunder Block-III which would be a stealth prototype. This pic has been officially publicized.

Thanks for your greetings. I apologize for my harsh words for anyone. Specially @MastanKhan Bhai.



Boss

There won't be any "stealth" JF-17. Max we can expect is some minor changes like additional hardpoint for pods, better engine and IFR but no stealth. But avionics and sensor wise there will be major upgrade.

 

[RAMPAGE]

This pic has been officially publicized.

There will be no stealth JFT. No harm in sharing it.

 

[Moon]

There will be no stealth JFT. No harm in sharing it.

I've seen that pic, its just a Photoshop between a F-35 and the JF-17. Nothing "secret". Or probably the diamond nose pic shown in PAC video.

 

[Mughal-Prince]

Zehni ayashi kernay main koi haraj nahin hai

 

[Real LAVi]

The main feature of new JF-17 , Block-3,

- New engine with slightly increase thrust
- The new engine may the improved version of RD-93 or Chinese WS-17
- Air Refueling Prob
- AESA Radar
- Integrated IRST system like JSF
- Enhanced EWS
- Increase the composite material
- All these changes is being into same airframe structure that is currently now Blk-1, this would be big achievement.

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

Mughal Bhai I just wanted to share a photoshopped pic of JF-17 Thunder Block-III which would be a stealth prototype.
[/USER]

Stealth is not joke man.... It will require so much work on jf17 .
Read the posts of gambit .

JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 5] | Page 89


JF-17 Thunder Block-II - A Beast in making. | Page 8

 

[Foxtrot-Bravo]

Stealth is not joke man.... It will require so much work on jf17 .
Read the posts of gambit .

JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 5] | Page 89


JF-17 Thunder Block-II - A Beast in making. | Page 8

I know dude, I am saying about its design, just a model, about how it will look like.

There will be no stealth JFT. No harm in sharing it.

How can you say that? Any source etc.

There won't be any "stealth" JF-17. Max we can expect is some minor changes like additional hardpoint for pods, better engine and IFR but no stealth. But avionics and sensor wise there will be major upgrade.

Any source?

Share the pic dude, most probably it wouldn't be something that we haven't seen already, but do share and you don't need anyone's permission for that.

Thanks Bhai!! This is the pic, might be you have seen it before but it will be surely new for some.

There you go...

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F-35 DAS demonstrates hostile fire detection capability

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F-35 seems useless after its failure in Dog fight.

 

[abdulbarijan]

I know dude, I am saying about its design, just a model, about how it will look like.



How can you say that? Any source etc.



Any source?




Thanks Bhai!! This is the pic, might be you have seen it before but it will be surely new for some.

F-35 seems useless after its failure in Dog fight.

Yar just take it easy, go through the information pool thread before you go on discussing further about the jet ...

but since you are a member here, and you deserve a response so here you have one --

if you do read up on Gambit's posts you'll come to know what he thinks of "semi stealth" jets -- and mind you -- the guy has served in operations like the desert storm so, there you have an actual fighter pilot's opinion on "semi stealth" fighters...

Why cant a JF-17 be a stealth fighter -- the answer is simple, it defies the very philosophy the jet was based upon -- In JF-17 you have a fighter that is to be inducted in numbers and has to replace a huge fleet of F-7 P/PG and Mirage Rose variants ...

If you read up on how the upgrades were speculated at first, it was first speculated with rumors around an AESA and upgrades in other systems in block II which gave rise to the theory of a stealth version, since the JF-17 was supposed to be delivered in blocks of III, and every block containing upgrades and betterment over a preceding block, so what would be the next step to a upgraded block II (speculated at the time around 2011/2012/2013) which seems somewhere in between a 4 and 4.5 gen like a Jas-39 Gripen NG -- the obvious speculation of stealth variant like an F-15 SE rose from there ...

Why we wont see it is common sense -- the very focus of the project --- cost effectiveness -- the AESA and other upgrades like an upgraded engine or electronics/weapons are the furthest extent to which we'll go -- JF-17 by design is a light fighter so you have the limitations there, and plus you have as heavy fighters, the F-16's and if we choose to go for J-10B provided if PAF is confident in the chinese engine or ultimately a true stealth aircraft like a J-31 --

so conclusion, the stealthy JF-17 with the redesign may never happen due to the aims and philosophy behind the project, however you might see usage of RAM coatings etc. to reduce the RCS further ... ultimately its up to what PAF thinks that it needs and what fulfills those needs in a tight budget ...

Thanks for your reply boss, but it can also be a block-IV?

You should refer to what happened with the Silent Eagle, after considerations from Israel, South Korea, Japan and Saudi Arabia, all these countries went for either -- (a) another version of the F-15 or (b) F-35

so there you have it -- plus if PAF wants to go stealth, which it'll have to sooner or later, there is an already existing option in J-31

and plus, the figure of jf-17 as of now is 150 which will be completed in blocks of III --