JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 4]

[REHAN NIAZI FALCON]

Klj-7 is smaller version of Klj-10 .
we need AESA radar to meet modern warfare

 

[PakShaheen79]

It is using KLJ-10 in production version. KLJ-7 was used in first 8 only.

Revealed in 1995 as the successor of the cancelled Sino-US Super-7 project, FC-1 (Fighter China-1, max TO weight 12,700kg, max speed M 1.8, service ceiling 16,920m, max weapon load 3,900kg, ferry range 3,480km, combat radius 1,352km, max g load +8.5) is being developed by CAC/611 Institute (with some technical assistance from Russian Mikoyan OKB) as a "medium tech", light weight fighter/ground attack aircraft carrying a relatively cheap price tag (~$20m). As a fighter designed for export, its main customer is expected to be Pakistan who also shares 50% of the total cost (around $150m). It may also compete with second-hand F-16s to seize the market created by the retirement of Mig-21s, Mirage III and F-5s. Currently powered by a Russian RD-93 turbofan (upgraded RD-33, rated 8,795kg with a/b), it may also be powered by a locally produced WS-13 Taishan if it ever enters the service with PLAAF. The A-6 style "V" shaped air-intakes are believed to provide smooth air flow to the engine at high AoA. The fire control radar is thought to be a Chinese KLJ-7 X-band multi-functional PD radar in the initial batches of 8, then subsequently switched to KLJ-10 with a better performance (track 10 engage 2, look-up range 75km, look-down range 45km for RCS=3m2). A European high performance radar (e.g. Italian Vixen 1000ES AESA) has been planned in later batches. Other electronics include an NVG compatible glass cockpit with 3 8"x6" color MFDs, HOTAS, AIFF, 1553B databus and INS/GPS. Weapon load includes both short (PL-5E/PL-9C/AIM-9M) and medium-range AAMs (SD-10A). LGBs (LT-2/LT-3/GBU-16), GPS/INS guided bombs (LS-6), anti-radiation missiles (Brazilian MAR-1) and IRST/laser designation pod (WMD-7) can also be carried for ground attack missions, up to 2 C-802A AShMs for anti-ship missions. For self-protection purpose a KG300G ECM pod can be carried. The development schedule of FC-1 was repeatedly delayed caused by various problems, such as lack of funding, the reluctance of western countries to supply advanced avionics, as well as the revised specifications set by PAF to counter the threat from India's LCAs. These specifications included a true BVR attack capability with active radar guided medium-range AAMs (SD-10). However, FC-1's prospect in the domestic market was not very promising, as PLAAF had largely committed to the more advanced J-10 as its new generation fighter along with J-11 and was reluctant to take a large number of FC-1s due to its less advanced design and a Russian engine. After lengthy negotiations, Pakistani government finally signed the contract with CATIC and CAC/611 in 1999 and gave the "go ahead" order to the much delayed project. The development was further accelerated after PAF recommitted the project and confirmed FC-1's technical specifications in detail in February 2001. A full-scale mock-up was quickly constructed. A total of 6 prototypes (01-06) would have been built at CAC. The 01 prototype rolled down the assembly line on May 31, 2003 with two small wing fences. Its maiden flight took place on August 25, 2003. The 03 prototype first flew on April 9, 2004 without the two small wing fences. The 04 prototype was expected to fly by the end of 2005 with full suite of avionics but this was delayed until April 2006 due to several structural modifications. They include new diverterless supersonic inlets (DSI/Bump) similar to those of American F-35 to reduce weight and achieve better performance. A large rectangular-shaped fairing is installed on top of the vertical tailfin which may house ECM equipment. Its flight control includes a Type 634 quadruplex digital FBW in pitch axis and a duplex analog FBW in roll axis. A UV band MAWS has been installed at the root of the vertical tailfin to provide rear hemisphere coverage. Two enlarged F/A-18 style LERX are thought to offer higher AOA as well. The first flight of 04 prototype took place on April 28, 2006, and 06 prototype on September 10, 2006. The first two preproduction JF-17s (Joint Fighter-17, 00 batch/07-101 & 102) were delivered to Pakistan on March 2, 2007, with the nose-tip pitot tube removed. The 01 batch of 6 JF-17s (08-103 -- 08-108) were delivered between March and April 2008. The contract for PAF to acquire 42 JF-17s (mostly assembled by PAC) was singed on March 7, 2009. The first two (09-109 & 110) have been built by CAC. The first JF-17 (09-111) in the batch of 4 assembled by PAC rolled out on November 23, 2009. It was reported in May 2011 that PAF plans to acquire another 50 JF-17s on an "expedited" basis and the negotiation is still ongoing. Besides Pakistan, several Asian and African countries also expressed interest in FC-1, including Egypt, Bangladesh, Iran, Sri Lanka and Azerbaijan. In October 2008 it was rumored that PLAAF might acquire some FC-1s as a low-cost light fighter/attack aircraft to replace its obsolete J-7s and Q-5s but this has not been confirmed. FC-1 passed design appraisal in December 2009. The first taxi test of FC-1 powered by an indigenous WS-13 took place on March 18, 2010. A further improved version (JF-17A/JF-17 Block 2?) featuring an AESA radar, IRST and IFR probe as well as a two-seat trainer version (JF-17B?) are thought to has been proposed and likely be under development as well

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[alimobin memon]

It is using KLJ-10 in production version. KLJ-7 was used in first 8 only.



Chinese Military Aviation | China Air Force

thanks for posting that Pakshaheen ji
i am saying is the red quoted line says engages 2 at BVR are actually for Semi active radar and 4 by Active Radar that is all iwas saying. and PAF has ACTIVE RADAR HOMING MISSILE's only .

 

[Thorough Pro]

The offical PAC site says KLJ-7, and you said KLJ-10. There is a difference in both that is why I asked for your source to this info, Because the fact that KLJ-7 is a version of KLJ-10 made for Thunder is very old news, almost everyone who has any interest in Thunders knows that.

Source!! Source !!! Source !!!! is all guys want . See brother decreasing the size of radar disk is only think that seems reasonable that it could decrease range and IR modules but engaging capability to shoot 4 BVR's simultaneously is another thing.
klj-10 is not the max size j10 cone has even bigger radar can be added to j10 , klj-7 is small version in different aspects but engaging 4 missiles is in both

 

[farhan_9909]

klj7 was tweaked in kaarf

a very rank paf official said it has a 130km range in a interview to kanwa news

 

[abaseen99]

CATIC targets 300 JF-17 sales in five years

CATIC targets 300 JF-17 sales in five years
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By: GREG WALDRON SINGAPORE 07:32 29 May 2012 Source:

China hopes to sell up to 300 Chengdu/Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) JF-17 Thunder fighters in Africa and the Middle East over the next five years.

This target was revealed by a spokesman from China National Aero-Technology Import & Export Corporation (CATIC), the country's military aircraft export agency, in an email to Flightglobal.

So far, only Pakistan has ordered the JF-17, with firm orders for 150 examples - Pakistan has said it could buy up to 200. Islamabad is about to equip its third squadron with the type.

"In the next five years, CATIC intends to sell up to 300 JF-17s to several countries in Africa and the Middle East," says the spokesman.

"CATIC sales and customer support teams are highly motivated and CATIC is looking forward to making the upcoming years fantastic for the JF-17 and its users."

An industry source in Pakistan who is familiar with the JF-17 programme says joint Chinese/Pakistan sales efforts have made "considerable progress" following the type's appearance at the Dubai air show in November 2011.





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CATIC and PAC mounted a major sales effort at Dubai, bringing three Pakistan air force JF-17s to the show. One example was on display in the static area, while another performed in the flying display - the third was a back-up aircraft. At the show, representatives stressed what they view as the JF-17's "capability at affordable cost".

The industry source stresses that marketing efforts for the type are shared equally between China and Pakistan, and notes that the aircraft is built in both countries. While he declined to provide a target number of orders, he did say that discussions are underway with "eight or nine countries".

"They have indicated rough numbers," he says. "Some want more, some want less."

Countries regarded as possible buyers include the Democratic Republic of Congo, Nigeria, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Venezuela and Turkey. Serbia is also reportedly considering the type for its fighter requirement.

Though the type's engine, the Klimov RD-93, is produced in Russia, the Pakistani official does not see this being an obstacle to sales because most prospective JF-17 customers have good relations with Russia.

"Doubt has never been cast on the aircraft's engine," he say

 

[fatman17]

Islamabad is about to equip its third squadron with the type.

in june - 2012.

 

[Imran Khan]

Islamabad is about to equip its third squadron with the type.

in june - 2012.

which date of june ? its now too long to wait third sqn .

 

[fatman17]

which date of june ? its now too long to wait third sqn .

imran bhai - june is june. cant give date.

 

[Imran Khan]

imran bhai - june is june. cant give date.

sir jee its mean they are working on fourth sqn now . i hope they finish first batch as soon as they can so we have another load of work for block-2.

 

[fatman17]

sir jee its mean they are working on fourth sqn now . i hope they finish first batch as soon as they can so we have another load of work for block-2.

blk-2 work starts after induction of 3rd squadron. u r right that work never stops.

 

[Jango]

All the aircraft are inducted in one go or one by one? Day-by-day?

 

[Dazzler]

All the aircraft are inducted in one go or one by one? Day-by-day?

When a squadron strength (numbers) is achieved then it is inducted.

 

[Jango]

When a squadron strength (numbers) is achieved then it is inducted.

So, aircraft keep on coming, when the strength is reached, the official ceremony takes place?

 

[fatman17]

All the aircraft are inducted in one go or one by one? Day-by-day?

one go. prior to that they are 'tested' by the test and evaluation wing of PAC-kamra. once the green signal is given, they are transferred to PAF. PAF has to ensure that enough pilots are 'converted' to this type before the squadron becomes operational. no use having a/c but no pilots to fly them.