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Well again farooqi sahib, you are revolving around the same point over and over again. Be it MKI or Rafale, comparing planes is much different if you are focusing on apparent characteristics. Its a host of factors i.e. Weapons package, versatility, self protection capability and many other things which determine the overall potential for a plane. You seem to be only focusing on apparent characteristics and keep repeating the same thing over and over again. Many of the senior members had replied you and many other posters in the past which such questions. I would rather recomend you and all new posters to read through JFT information pool that has been created to serve the very purpose.They don't have the answer. They have been fed so much about JF-17 (I love it too) but they will not tell you how they are going to face SU 30 MKI and Rafales forget about fifth generation. Jf-17 Block II is going to cost $25 million and SU 30 or SU 27 is around $30-$35 million. They are going to argue that it is expensive and maintenance, infrastructure we don't have the money who is going to sell you bla bla. You know Ugandan Air force has 6 SU 30 and they have set up an overhaul facility over there.
They don't have the answer. They have been fed so much about JF-17 (I love it too) but they will not tell you how they are going to face SU 30 MKI and Rafales forget about fifth generation. Jf-17 Block II is going to cost $25 million and SU 30 or SU 27 is around $30-$35 million. They are going to argue that it is expensive and maintenance, infrastructure we don't have the money who is going to sell you bla bla. You know Ugandan Air force has 6 SU 30 and they have set up an overhaul facility over there.
Lot of open ended & divergent discussion on the thread. One school of thought making it a "PAF vs IAF" thread while others insisting JF-17 is not designed to compete against SUs & Rafales etc.
JF-17 may form 40-50% of entire PAF, meaning that great deal of tactics to be deployed by PAF, will revolve around JF 17. Secondly,on the battle day, JF-17 rider can't tell SU/Rafale that I am not designed for you. Adversary will chose how to counter JF 17, whether we use it in defensive or offensive role.
Probably, discussion has been derailed because we are not hearing much about the new sqdn or expected Block 2 updates.
Tough time for forum administrators.
Kindly use the term Thread instead of Threat, at least for once....The problem with going with this argument is that it is being discussed in wrong threat all together.
Can JF-17 stand a chance against Rafale/MKI --- > May be not or May be.
So,
What PAF must do to make sure the threat will be dealt with ---- > Look for more modern system (Obvious)
So,
Does that make JF-17 investment useless ---- > ABSOLUTELY NO ( As it will be deployed for defensive role)
BUT
What about Offense (which is always the best defense)? --- > Need high tech fighter/jet indeed.
OK ... Should we discuss the PAF's requirements for the high tech fighters here in JF-17 threat ---- > ABSOLUTELY NO
The dilemma with this discussion on PAF's requirement for the high tech fighters to deal with modern IAF platforms stems from the truth that it is being discussed over and over and over and over (by Mastan Khan and Co.) in wrong threat.
Sir, Very respectfully, make a new threat and we can all discuss the weaknesses of PAF viz-a-viz emerging IAF there. Please spare this threat as it is about ONE SMALL POOR MAN's JF-17.
Thanks.
The problem with going with this argument is that it is being discussed in wrong threat all together.
Can JF-17 stand a chance against Rafale/MKI --- > May be not or May be.
So,
What PAF must do to make sure the threat will be dealt with ---- > Look for more modern system (Obvious)
So,
Does that make JF-17 investment useless ---- > ABSOLUTELY NO ( As it will be deployed for defensive role)
BUT
What about Offense (which is always the best defense)? --- > Need high tech fighter/jet indeed.
OK ... Should we discuss the PAF's requirements for the high tech fighters here in JF-17 threat ---- > ABSOLUTELY NO
The dilemma with this discussion on PAF's requirement for the high tech fighters to deal with modern IAF platforms stems from the truth that it is being discussed over and over and over and over (by Mastan Khan and Co.) in wrong threat.
Sir, Very respectfully, make a new threat and we can all discuss the weaknesses of PAF viz-a-viz emerging IAF there. Please spare this threat as it is about ONE SMALL POOR MAN's JF-17.
Thanks.
Well again farooqi sahib, you are revolving around the same point over and over again. Be it MKI or Rafale, comparing planes is much different if you are focusing on apparent characteristics. Its a host of factors i.e. Weapons package, versatility, self protection capability and many other things which determine the overall potential for a plane. You seem to be only focusing on apparent characteristics and keep repeating the same thing over and over again. Many of the senior members had replied you and many other posters in the past which such questions. I would rather recomend you and all new posters to read through JFT information pool that has been created to serve the very purpose.
Kindly use the term Thread instead of Threat, at least for once....
His post is that of a typical impatient newbie who rather likes to flood the thread with questions than reading the available material about the topic. That's why no body replied to that (except you). But the points raised by you were again a repetition of your previous posts.Hasan Sahib and all other respected forum participants. I was simply answering Shazads question. I did not ask any question from my side. Please kindly re-read my post. Rather then answering Shazads question most of you start jumping on me. If I were you and if I want to would rather answer Shazds question.