Hi,
All war planes are developed and designed by air forces directly or indirectly---this plane was developed by chinese industrial complex with pak giving the input what they wanted alongwith their engineers and pilots---so nothing new or big deal about it. Paf is talking like it has re-invented the wheel.
It is the same every where else as well. The nations that build planes have advanced engineering complexes and vast industrial base where private sector is ****** rich or is funded by the govt as well.
These private industrial complexes have serving air force pilots---retd air force pilots---aeronautical engineers---metalurgists---scientists---you name it they got it---they got money---technology---research---manpower that pakistan cannot imagine in its wildest of dreams---so why would the air forces of these nations start building what they don't need to.
In pakistan---WAKE UP YOUNG PAKISTANI---the only major industrial complex with any substantial engineering background and production capability is the pak millitary---take it to the private sector and they got nothing---just a little bit here a tad bit there---nothing of subsatnce---so who do you think would be involved in building the plane.
Pakistan air force is pursuing this plane just for the sake of their ego---once they found out about the J 10---that is what they should gone after---and the J 11---.
JF 17 is a dumb mistake---one of many---.
Pak would be better served with 60-75 J 11's and 200 J 10's alongwith the F 16's.
60-75 plus J 11's will be sufficient to put pak airforce at par with the iaf on its own turf.
Paf desperately needed some heavy weight to go mano a mano against the su30---but they are strutting around with their puny little achievement---fool me once shame on you---fool me twice---shame on me---pak public has been fooled again.
Your fighter interceptors needs to make a power statement---where you needed a steriod filled heavy muscular machine---you are sending in a chicken hawk---.
Pakistan air force needed a PITBULL to face indian air force---all they have been able to come up is a chihuaha.
The sole purpose of the project was to come up with something that the enemy will stop for a moment and think about the consequences---jf 17 does nothing of that kind---if it didnot bring india to the table---then the project is a failure.
Suppose if pakistan had a fleet of 75 J 11's---75 F 16's blk 52's and MLU's and 75 M2K9's---does anyone think that india's power posturing would have been different---.
Please don't talk about paf being the only air force to make their own plane---.
very true. i must agree. i would also like to add that pakistan requires between 450 to 500 latest fighters in their inventory. 60 UAE mirage 2009 would have been great addition to maintain a fleet of 100 mirages. for another 15 years. In the islamic world pak might be first to make a fighter but it is not that bigger a deal. it can become a big deal once jf 17 beats all the light weight single engine fighters on its level eg Saab JS 39 gripian or become equal to f16 block 52.
jf17 is a great fighter, at least it is a better plane then the old FP7. It will definately be an excellent upgrade to the old mig21 an A5 . PAF after the first 50 fighter should start rolling out jf17 block 2 version, with all latest up grades.
PAF should invest in converting JF 17 to a dedicated ground attack fighter version as well. They should also add required avonics/radar an a 1× 30 mm (1.18 in) GAU-8/A Avenger gatling cannon.
Instead of investing on new advance trainers from china, pakistan should invest in producing twin seat jf17 as trainers/ fighter.
I would also like to add that the corruption in pakistan does not let the country grow or evolve we have so many opportunities but who wants to invest in pakistan considering the way things are so if you are connected in pak then its good for u other wise you suffer or pay your way. so if some one wants to open up a private firm even in terms of defence he has to pay millions in bribe an there is no confirmation that the company will get the tender. so thats why all you see is defence or govt related or political backs firms in pak....
It will be hard to get, j11 if they can buy its great. if PAF is looking for a twin engine aircraft then another great option for PAF would be to go for brand new version of jh7 upgrade it with western avonics, radar. A dedicated 5 squadron of 15 fighters each for the naval role at the southern command would be great addition.
