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nopes. We ard not getting it so stop the day dreaming man. jf is already a potent fighter with block 3, it will reach new heights.

It's not about day dreaming, your statement came out as " if its western equipment, we ( PAF / Pakistanis ) don't want it."

PS: on side note, USAF has best equipment $ can buy, why would I day dream ?
 
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It's not about day dreaming, your statement came out as " if its western equipment, we ( PAF / Pakistanis ) don't want it."

PS: on side note, USAF has best equipment $ can buy, why would I day dream ?
well if you cant understand then, iw ill tell you plainly. USAF isnt giving us anything that will give us qualitative edge period.
 
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nopes. We ard not getting it so stop the day dreaming man. jf is already a potent fighter with block 3, it will reach new heights.

Your original statement wasn't about not getting it, it was based on that "Item mentioned is of Western Origin." Not sure where Day Dreaming part about my statement came from, the best equipment in the world / on this planet is available to USAF so why would I day Dream ?

I like to see best equipment available for PAF, so it can excel at what it does best.
 
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Your original statement wasn't about not getting it, it was based on that "Item mentioned is of Western Origin." Not sure where Day Dreaming part about my statement came from, the best equipment in the world / on this planet is available to USAF so why would I day Dream ?

I like to see best equipment available for PAF, so it can excel at what it does best.
see the problem is, THE BEST WESTERN EQUIPMENT ISNT AVAILABLE TO PAF!

now if you still dont understand then FI AMANILLAH!
 
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see the problem is, THE BEST WESTERN EQUIPMENT ISNT AVAILABLE TO PAF!

now if you still dont understand then FI AMANILLAH!

Then write as you wrote above instead of what you wrote earlier, "No thanks. Nothing western on Jft otherwise you are killing the basic idea of THUNDER!." Any way, yours is a typical Pakistani response at the end, sadly.

Perhaps proper semantics, if you would like to get your point of view across.
 
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see the problem is, THE BEST WESTERN EQUIPMENT ISNT AVAILABLE TO PAF!

now if you still dont understand then FI AMANILLAH!

Then write as you wrote above instead of what you wrote earlier, "No thanks. Nothing western on Jft otherwise you are killing the basic idea of THUNDER!." Any way, yours is a typical Pakistani response at the end, sadly.

Perhaps proper semantics, if you would like to get your point of view across.

You both are arguing baselessly.

Vixen being a western radar was also one of the top contenders for Block 3 AESA upgrade so the “Western” label has no basis when it comes to thunder unless the supplier is trusted.
 
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No thanks. Nothing western on Jft otherwise you are killing the basic idea of THUNDER!

Hi,

you are ill informed. At your age, you should rather try to learn than coming up with silly comments.

the jf17 has a Turksih and spanish systems.

the only purpose fir jf 17 was to have an unrestricted flying machine.

All it instrumentation and complete ew package was to be french.

but you might not know that because you would have been around 3-4 maybe 5 years old at that time when decision was made for the french package.

listen and learn.
 
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Hi at the end PAF doesn’t have the best—- honey & money otherwise getting shouldn’t say best but rather better is not a problem specially with the French just show them your intentions with your honey and you will see the outcome
Thank you
 
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Hi

Best is meaningless. Best is what works for you and what you can get out if it.

Best is what your operational technical mechanical capabilities can handle to the limits.

if you have the best of the best and your techs cannot service it and you cannit afford the upkeep, what is its use then.
 
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Hi

Best is meaningless. Best is what works for you and what you can get out if it.

Best is what your operational technical mechanical capabilities can handle to the limits.

if you have the best of the best and your techs cannot service it and you cannit afford the upkeep, what is its yse then.
“Best is something that leaves enemy option less and to your mercy”...
 
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https://www.china-arms.com/2020/01/ws-13ipe-for-fc-31/

WS-13IPE engine for FC-31 carrier-based fighter could be mass-produced in 2020
Posted on January 26, 2020 by buffaloNo Comments ↓


One design plan of WS-13 engine modification

Guizhou Liyang Aero Engine Co., Ltd. affiliated to China Aviation Engine Corporation posted the company’s key tasks in 2020 recently, one of which is the implementation of small-batch production of a new aircraft engine.

The outside world generally believes that this new engine is probably WS-13IPE (thrust-enhanced type), which mainly adds thrust on the basis of WS-13 engine in order to adapt to performance upgrade and improvement of fighters.


JF-17 Block-III

WS-13 is a medium-thrust turbofan engine developed by the Liyang company based on Russian RD-93 engine. It was originally planned for JF-17/ FC-1 fighter. However, before its successful development, the Pakistan Air Force had selected RD-93 turbofan engine for JF-17 fighter and established an overhaul line. After evaluation, the Pakistani side thought that the performance of WS-13 is similar to that of the RD-93 engine. And the entire logistics support system would almost be overturned and it would cost too much to replace the engines. Therefore, Pakistan decided to continue to use the RD-93 engine.

However, Liyang company did not abandon WS-13 in this regard, and continued to improve and increase the engine’s thrust. Liyang company believed that JF-17 Block-III fighters would undergo major changes, and will use new equipment such as source phased array radar and integrated electronic warfare systems. And the weight of the aircraft would definitely increase significantly compared to the first and second batches. So the need for a larger thrust engine is an opportunity for WS-13 engine.


FC-31

Besides, it was reported that FC-31 fighter was equipped with WS-13 engine with an afterburning thrust less than 9 tons, which is far from sufficient.

FC-31 fighter was originally planned to use a fourth-generation homemade turbofan engine, but this engine has just been developed, and it will take some time for the design to be finalized and mass-produced.

Liyang company decided to improve the thrust of the WS-13 engine as a transition for FC-31 fighter. The WS-13IPE thrust- enhanced engine adopts a relatively conservative scheme and retains the original four-stage fan, but the blades are swept forward to delay the airflow separation. This increases the fan speed and allows the engine to take in more air, thereby increasing the engine thrust.

After the improvement, the thrust of WS-13IPE engine could be over 9 tons, which can be used for JF-17 Block-III and can also meet the initial needs of JC-31 stealth fighters, especially if JC-31 is chosen as the carrier-based fighter, which would need engines with a higher thrust to carry its increased weight.
 
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Hi,

you are ill informed. At your age, you should rather try to learn than coming up with silly comments.

the jf17 has a Turksih and spanish systems.

the only purpose fir jf 17 was to have an unrestricted flying machine.

All it instrumentation and complete ew package was to be french.

but you might not know that because you would have been around 3-4 maybe 5 years old at that time when decision was made for the french package.

listen and learn.
OK DUDE, if thats what helps you sleep.
 
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